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Mon Jan 30, 2017, 08:31 AM

 

Delete Uber AND Lyft

"Don't let the fact that for 30 seconds. Lyft became a liberal darling under the hastag ##DeleteUber on Twitter fool you, the company hates unions. They both opposed laws in Seattle that would require drivers to be unionized. Uber went as far as to buy an ad during a Seahawks game

They also have no worker protections and no workers compensation. The way things work, is that if a driver gets hurt, they're on their own. If a driver wants to put up some protective screens (like in conventional cabs) he has to pay for it out of pocket. This can become a problem since many Uber drivers market themselves as a ride home from parties for people who are intoxicated. Several people have gotten injured this way. Additionally, they don't do much to protect customers either. There are mountains of stories of Uber and Lyft drivers committing sexual assault on their customers. The reverse is also true."

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 08:39 AM

1. Lyft is donating $1 million to ACLU in response to the immigrant ban

They may not be perfect, but I applaud the stand they have taken and am not about to "delete" them.
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/316729-lyft-will-donate-1-million-to-aclu-after-trump-immigration-ban%3Famp?client=ms-android-att-us

"The ride-hailing company Lyft is pledging to donate $1 million to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) in response to President Donald Trump's immigration ban.

In a letter emailed to customers early Sunday morning, Lyft co-founders John Zimmer and Logan Green announced their decision to donate money to help "defend our constitution."

The email condemned Trump's executive order halting the Syrian refugee program and banning entry to all citizens of several Muslim-majority countries.

"Banning people of a particular faith or creed, race or identity, sexuality or ethnicity, from entering the U.S. is antithetical to both Lyft's and our nation's core values," the co-founders wrote.".....

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Response to Tanuki (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:25 AM

8. They're also Libertarian assh*les against regulation and worker protections. So money pays off your

 

So money pays off your principles?

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:50 AM

11. Help me out here. After reading your post I searched in vain for

any evidence for your claim that Lyft founder Logan Green is a Libertarian. Other than attempting to modify local transportation ordinances that are specific to his business, I couldn't find anything even remotely suggestive of that.
Residents of minority communities can attest to unequal service from traditional cab companies. Perhaps that is something you have not experienced.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 08:43 AM

2. Uber's CEO is a Trump sycophant. Lyft is donating a million $ to the ACLU. Big difference IMO.

 

Also, it's my opinion that no worker should be REQUIRED to be in a union if they don't want to be. If the drivers are Independent Contractors then they are the boss. Unionized school teachers sometimes sexually assault children as well but people still send their kids to school.

I'm all for unions being available for those who WANT to join one...but oppose people being REQUIRED to join one. I've also worked as an Independent Contractor before...where you are basically the boss of your own business and Independent Contractors are NOT W2 employees so they don't get treated like an employee.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 08:55 AM

4. some people here can't stand the ACLU, either.

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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:26 AM

9. So you're good with Right To Work states then? It sounds like you have no principles that aren't

 

subject to being bought.

The ACLU should return their money.

And your post is one long rightwing talking point.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 08:45 AM

3. Your link doesn't have anything to do with your OP, for one.

Two, yes, we know- the taxi status quo people don't like ANY competition and don't want any changes from the wonderful, crony and medallion based urban taxi system gravy train they've enjoyed, and the rest of us have been stuck with, for decades.

Fact is, though, that for the customers, that system sucks ass.

If it didn't, Lyft and Uber wouldn't be so wildly popular.

Taxi companies have had a long time to shape up their act, and all the customers have gotten in response is monumentally shitty- if existent at all- service.

So, no, the concept isn't going away.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:06 AM

5. I applaud your efforts, but the acceptance these kinds of companies get by some on the left

Is a sign of just how bad things have gotten in this country. There is no hope for the workers in this country and there hasn't been for some time.

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Response to kcr (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 31, 2017, 05:14 AM

13. maybe a sign of how impossible it was to get a cab in a city like San Francisco a couple decades ago

I guess ideological purity means having to accept crappy or nonexistent cab service.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:08 AM

6. Delete both? Not gonna be able to do...I actually need the service on occasion...so I'm all

 

for a boycott but I picked Lyft long ago anyway. They allow you to tip the drive and Uber does not...well you have tip in cash which defeats the purpose.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:19 AM

7. Traditional taxi companies have their own big problems:

 

1: Reliance on hailing means service can and often is discriminatory.

2: Not really practical outside urban/suburban areas

3: Often have their own form of surge pricing, except its applied arbitrarily across the board.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:37 AM

10. Never.

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I use Lyft and Uber all the time as I travel quite a bit for work.

Taxi's are not some worker's paradise you are painting. Many are not unionized, Taxi service mostly sucks or is not existent in many places, and there are also stories of Taxi drivers and passengers having altercations too.

Also, some Uber/Lyft drivers post here on DU.

So, thanks for trying to make a liberal "litmus test", but NO.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 11:24 AM

12. Few things:

1. Most taxi drivers here in Denver are NOT unionized so that argument goes out the window.

2. It would cost my partner approx. $35 (taxifarefinder.com) to go from her job downtown to our apartment while on Lyft it's only $17 (Frequently less with the discount codes we're always getting).

3. A manager at the Big Lots I used to work at would take Uber and Lyft home from work because many taxi drivers refused to go into Montbello (an African American/Latino neighborhood in Denver) late at night.

4. If you like waiting over an hour for an overpriced ride in a smelly car with a driver that bitches non-stop about your destination being "too far out of his zone" then taxis are just the ticket for you.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Tue Jan 31, 2017, 05:27 AM

14. No...Uber and Lyft art the best things to come down

 

the pike in a long time. Pick something else to champion, this is going to be a loosing issue for you.

Love me some Uber!!

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