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Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:53 AM

Well are you happy now?

I remember seeing countless posts from people insinuating that Hillary and Drumpf were the same. How? who knows- all they kept harping was that Hillary had rigged the system and blah blah blah. A lot of them claimed to stay at home and not help Hillary with the election

Sec. Clinton would have stood up for equal rights for everyone. She would have never let those pipelines be built. She would have protected Obamacare.

For me the people who argued that Sec. Clinton was equally as bad as Trump are a bunch of idiots as well. I don't care if me calling them idiots hurts their feelings because it is the truth.

Well are you same people happy now? Enjoy 8 years of Trump and stop complaining about every little thing he does because to me you are directly linked to his victory as well. So OWN it.

#ImwithHer

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Reply Well are you happy now? (Original post)
Cane4Dems Jan 2017 OP
NBachers Jan 2017 #1
Ron Green Jan 2017 #2
Post removed Jan 2017 #13
Iggo Jan 2017 #3
SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #5
Raine Jan 2017 #10
Rex Jan 2017 #16
Rex Jan 2017 #14
DanTex Jan 2017 #17
DanTex Jan 2017 #15
Tom Rinaldo Jan 2017 #31
jrthin Jan 2017 #34
DanTex Jan 2017 #35
ornotna Jan 2017 #22
woodsprite Jan 2017 #4
Iggo Jan 2017 #6
Skittles Jan 2017 #7
milestogo Jan 2017 #8
DanTex Jan 2017 #20
irisblue Jan 2017 #26
DanTex Jan 2017 #33
irisblue Jan 2017 #37
JHan Jan 2017 #28
Cha Jan 2017 #39
JI7 Jan 2017 #9
leftstreet Jan 2017 #11
Rex Jan 2017 #12
bullwinkle428 Jan 2017 #18
irisblue Jan 2017 #19
DanTex Jan 2017 #21
irisblue Jan 2017 #24
DanTex Jan 2017 #25
irisblue Jan 2017 #27
VOX Jan 2017 #23
kstewart33 Jan 2017 #29
m-lekktor Jan 2017 #30
HopeAgain Jan 2017 #32
cynatnite Jan 2017 #36
bravenak Jan 2017 #38

Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:10 AM

1. I saw a guy running around with a big Bernie 2020 sign at the March this weekend.

I had to wonder if he was an anyone but Hillary voter

I had to wonder if he thought Trump's Insanity would push people over to his side now.

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:36 AM

2. The change is coming earlier without her. "Happy now" doesn't apply,

it's not about that. It's about the fight, and you're the fighter now, not the right-winger.

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:40 AM

3. Okay, that's enough.

You can keep fighting that primary, but you can do it without me.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 01:32 PM

5. +1000000!

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Response to Iggo (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:30 PM

10. Exactly, sure tired of these divisive tactics!

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Response to Raine (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:38 PM

16. Same as it always was.

 

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Response to Iggo (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:37 PM

14. Everyone has to have a hobby.

 

Some seem to have the same hobby.

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Response to Rex (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:38 PM

17. Well, this is a political message board. If people don't like discussing politics,

I don't see why they are here.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:38 PM

15. And yet you're responding. The far left has now thrown 2 elections to the GOP

in 16 years. We can't forget what they have done, or it will happen again.

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Response to DanTex (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:09 PM

31. The far left did not throw the last election to the GOP

Some voters are always far left, some are always far right, some support Libertarians, some support Vegetarians, some support Monarchists. That is part of the background noise for all national elections. Democrats don't own all Anti-Republican voters - never have and never will, but we often win elections anyway. This time we didn't. We can blame our own candidate, or we can blame the media, or we can blame the FBI, or we can blame Russia. But if you prefer blaming a segment of the electorate I would suggest working class white voters in the rust belt who voted for Obama but who lost faith in the ability of the Democratic Party to defend their interests. Alternately you could blame African American voters for not turning out for Clinton in the same record breaking numbers as they did for Obama; not that any person of sound mind should ever have expected them to exactly replicate the extent of enthusiasm that was shown for our first African American President.

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #31)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:13 PM

34. YES!!! they did. n/t

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #31)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:17 PM

35. It sure did. We're talking 100k votes in 3 states.

You're right, Dems sometimes win elections despite the far left's efforts to elect Republicans. But in this particular election, the margin was so thin that any of a number of factors could have thrown it the other way.

It wasn't only the far left. Comey played a role, Putin played a role, the media giving free advertising to Trump and obsessing about nothing "scandals" like the emails played a role. And the far left, the Green party, the Bernie or Bust people booing at the convention, all that played a role too.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:49 PM

22. No kidding

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:57 PM

4. Oh, I thought this was about all the people that were happy Trump was the repub nominee

because he'd be so easy to beat and he was a complete freak nobody could possibly vote for.

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Response to woodsprite (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 01:33 PM

6. That's what I thought. And I was one of those people. (n/t)

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:25 PM

7. they'll never own it

fuck them

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:27 PM

8. You saw those posts here?

Please provide a link to just one of the "countless" posts you saw.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:44 PM

20. There were tons. Here's one I googled up with 51 recs.

Just to give you an idea of how overrun with right-wing trolls this place used to be.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2029007

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Response to DanTex (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:57 PM

26. DanTex I wi) read this thread

I stayed away from that forum , I was already horrified @ the bile & meaness from the primaries, the postmortium fourm made me too sad watching DU membrrs shred and be mean to each othrr again.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:11 PM

33. "Be mean to each other again" is a false equivalence.

Sure, there was a lot of back-and-forth during the primaries, but as soon as the outcome became clear, the back-and-forth stopped being about who should be the Democratic nominee, but rather about whether the Democratic nominee should be supported at all, or whether it would make any difference (or even be better) if Trump would win.

And it wasn't a small thing, there were tons of threads about it. Also, it didn't start there, the same trolls pushing Trump were for years arguing that Obama was no different than a Republican, or worse.

The thing is, the far left has been implicitly (and sometimes overtly, like Nader) helping the GOP for two decades now. And anyone who has been on DU for a while (I've been here since early W) has seen this dynamic, not only in national politics, but also here on DU.

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Response to DanTex (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:22 PM

37. I'm not trying to raise your BP. Clearly what I want from DU is different from you

I saw you got here in 2002, I got here in 2010 & I was thrilled to find it. It does seem that we will not be able to have a more fruitful & educational conversation about this. Respectfully & politely, goodnight sir

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Response to DanTex (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:05 PM

28. wtf....

"Hillary scares me more than Trump relative to Social Security." - --- from that thread.... LOL LOL LOL

If I don't laugh I will cry...>


LOL.


I can't even.



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Response to DanTex (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:27 PM

39. Stupid.. they were all so "scared"

of Hillary.. Willfully or otherwise.

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:28 PM

9. i think most of them are right Wing trolls

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:34 PM

11. Never saw anyone on DU say Trump & Hillary were the same

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:34 PM

12. lulz

 

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:40 PM

18. I've no doubt there were countless posts at JPR insinuating that, but DU...?

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:43 PM

19. attacking DU members won't help.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:48 PM

21. Are you saying there are still DU members that think Trump and Hillary are the same?

I hope not, but if any of those trolls are still here, they deserve to be criticized.

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Response to DanTex (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:51 PM

24. no I am saying that the current DU members are not the ones who caused the issue.

MIRT tosses trolls really quick. That is what I mean.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:56 PM

25. MIRT didn't toss the trolls "really quick". They were here for years.

Way before they started advocating in favor of Trump, they were bashing Obama for a long time. I don't see the point in pretending that DU wasn't overrun by Trump apologists and Dem bashers as recently as last June.

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Response to DanTex (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:05 PM

27. please see post 26.

The term I served on MIRT, trolls seemed to be IDed quick. Admin chose to limit MIRT ability to delete members under 100 posts. The Admins chose to delete members over 100 posts. Personally I wish that were an intermedate way to deal with members w/ 101-250 or so during an election year.

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 10:50 PM

23. There's been a coup d'etat by a homegrown fascist power. Please stop dividing us.

Those who have learned from the horrible outcome of the election, have...learned. Those who won't or can't, aren't going to have a "come-to-Jesus" moment where they wail and rend their garments and beg forgiveness.

In the meantime, everyone, please, get back up on the front lines. We're ALL needed for this fight for our democracy and our very lives.

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:06 PM

29. If this is the beginning of the resurrection of the Hillaries versus Bernies, stop it.

The election is over, the postmortem forum is gone.

Get over it, guys.

There is a far, far greater objective: defeating Trump and every one of his executive orders and legislation.



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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:06 PM

30. I have never seen posts claiming they are the SAME.

I think some of you like causing drama and just make this shit up.

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:11 PM

32. Whateva...

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:17 PM

36. I got pissed all over again tonight...

I don't fully blame Bernie supporters. There were a minority who took their attacks to new lows, comparable to Trump's. But it led me to thinking about the campaign between her and Trump.

They were repugnant and vile. I'm fucking pissed about how she was dragged through the mud along with her family while many cheered it on with "lock her up".

The hate for her was so strong that so many didn't give a shit what kind of scum Trump was.

With every vile action that fucker takes in the WH, it's one more reason to never forgive the Trump supporters for what's happening to this country.

It's got me too angry and too bitter right now. All I can do is writer letters and march for what I know in my heart is right. Maybe that'll get these negative emotions out of me.

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Response to Cane4Dems (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:22 PM

38. They are still mad

 

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