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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:01 AM Jan 2017

A friend and I got into an argument about Barron Trump of all things.

He said Trump was such scum that all of them were fair game.
I vehemently disagreed. I say leave the kids alone. Unless they are older and engaged in political activity such as policy, etc, leave them alone. I have said this for decades and I am not changing now.

Edit to add: I have also said for decades to be tougher on the GOP. We need to go after them and never give them an inch.

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A friend and I got into an argument about Barron Trump of all things. (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Jan 2017 OP
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Underage children are off limits. Arkansas Granny Jan 2017 #1
right. i say leave morticia and pugsly out of the name calling! KG Jan 2017 #2
LOL Bucky Jan 2017 #23
I resent the fact that . . . MrModerate Jan 2017 #27
It's wrong to smear, or even mock, little kids.. whathehell Jan 2017 #30
And I agree completely, which is why I reluctantly say 'No' . . . MrModerate Jan 2017 #32
I totally agree watoos Jan 2017 #43
I agree. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #3
No child chooses his or her parents. scarletlib Jan 2017 #4
Katie Rich, SNL writer, has stepped into it exboyfil Jan 2017 #5
Would not a homeschool shooter be shooting the ones in his HOME SCHOOL?.... Jim Beard Jan 2017 #46
You don't know that. B2G Jan 2017 #50
I feel sorry for both Melania and Barron spinbaby Jan 2017 #6
Go to about the 1:14 mark in this video. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #8
The more I watch Melania the more I tend to agree with you. WePurrsevere Jan 2017 #21
With all due respect, it's wrong.. whathehell Jan 2017 #34
I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough. I'm not assuming that she is... WePurrsevere Jan 2017 #54
Best sign I saw at yesterday's march (Oakland) . . . MrModerate Jan 2017 #28
Ha! Richard D Jan 2017 #36
Gold digger Scarsdale Jan 2017 #39
Marla has a tale to tell kskiska Jan 2017 #53
I think Barron is off limits, too. He's just a kid. Vinca Jan 2017 #7
I agree True_Blue Jan 2017 #9
I firmly believe two wrongs DO make a right. AngryAmish Jan 2017 #11
Rush got what was comming to him by losing his hearing and a divorce.......... Jim Beard Jan 2017 #48
I'm with you. Please leave him alone. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2017 #10
Uday & Qusay are fair game.... Lets hope Barron manages to be the exception.. hlthe2b Jan 2017 #12
I am always amazed when young men who still have good hair growth milestogo Jan 2017 #37
Trying? Scarsdale Jan 2017 #41
Melania has been removed from "real life" for quite awhile. TrekLuver Jan 2017 #45
Barron is close to his grandparents kskiska Jan 2017 #52
I'll give Barron the kid glove treatment, but Beavis and Butthead, oasis Jan 2017 #13
Go after those adults who deserve it... WePurrsevere Jan 2017 #14
Anyone who would fuck around with a child's psyche is evil. Yes. They are evil. We are not. Squinch Jan 2017 #15
Of course the Republicans let HATE radio do all the children bashing Bengus81 Jan 2017 #16
Ain't that the truth! Gotta neutralize hate radio somehow in the days ahead. FailureToCommunicate Jan 2017 #24
Limbaugh Scarsdale Jan 2017 #42
Ivanka and her brothers are fair game crazycatlady Jan 2017 #17
The only thing I've said anywhere similar Bengus81 Jan 2017 #19
Barron's probably the only member of that family who showed any humanity on Friday Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 #18
Attacking a child is unethical and unkind. And makes us look terrible. yardwork Jan 2017 #20
Of course you're right. Unless they're of the age to vote, they're non-combatants. Yo_Mama Jan 2017 #22
Leave Barron alone. Melania, though, I think is fair game. mnhtnbb Jan 2017 #25
IF and I say IF .... LenaBaby61 Jan 2017 #26
Yet another thread about Barron. cwydro Jan 2017 #29
MT seems to protect him fiercly Horse with no Name Jan 2017 #31
Agreed. Non involved and young kids are off limits lunatica Jan 2017 #33
Agree, children should be off limits tiredtoo Jan 2017 #35
Barron is off limits. Ilsa Jan 2017 #38
There is plenty to go after Bettie Jan 2017 #40
Well someone just posted a link to his facebook page....and it is filled with inflammatory posts TrekLuver Jan 2017 #44
Pretty sure it is not his own page marylandblue Jan 2017 #49
People are easily fooled...as we see with Trashbag in charge. TrekLuver Jan 2017 #51
You are correct malaise Jan 2017 #47
Agree.. mountain grammy Jan 2017 #55
Good for you. applegrove Jan 2017 #56
Rec'd Kaleva Jan 2017 #57

Bucky

(53,926 posts)
23. LOL
Reply to KG (Reply #2)
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:28 AM
Jan 2017

but shame on your clever ass anyway.

Any attention given to the kid or to Ivanka's stand-in, actually helps Trump. He's able to get away with things because of all the distractions he creates.

All of our attention should go to his attacks on civil liberties, his attacks on basic civility, his attacls on Medicare and Social Security, his destruction of the healthcare infrastructure we were starting to build, and all the other terrible things he's doing.

it's time to stop playing his game and just start resisting.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
27. I resent the fact that . . .
Reply to KG (Reply #2)
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:50 AM
Jan 2017

Regardless of how perfect the "Morticia and Pugsley" reference is, I can't in good conscience use it.

And I really, really, really want to use it.

Oh well, I guess we have to make sacrifices in the war against trumps.

whathehell

(29,023 posts)
30. It's wrong to smear, or even mock, little kids..
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:55 AM
Jan 2017

He's only ten years old, and he can't help.who his father is.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
32. And I agree completely, which is why I reluctantly say 'No' . . .
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:58 AM
Jan 2017

But it's still a brilliant comment.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
43. I totally agree
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jan 2017

One of the repulsive things that Trump did was to look at a 10 year old girl and say that he would be dating her in 10 years. Only a pervert looks at a 10 year old girl and says that.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
3. I agree.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:05 AM
Jan 2017

I heard Republicans poking fun at Amy Carter's appearance and all kinds of awful things when I was a kid.

I didn't like it then, and I still don't.

Edit: I grew up in an area where being a red-head was apparently the worst trait in the world.

scarletlib

(3,410 posts)
4. No child chooses his or her parents.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:07 AM
Jan 2017

I loathe Trump. However, Barron is just a child. He has no control over any of this. He shouldn't be attacked. Let's not stoop as low as the people who attacked Chelsea and President Obama's daughters.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
5. Katie Rich, SNL writer, has stepped into it
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:13 AM
Jan 2017

Saying Barron is going to be the first Homeschool shooter.

She may be fired, and I will not lose any sleep over it. At a minimum her penitence should be severe.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
46. Would not a homeschool shooter be shooting the ones in his HOME SCHOOL?....
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:50 AM
Jan 2017

For one his psycho father

She needs to lay off the kid, he is autistic, which is why I can not figure out why his father made fun of people with disabilities.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
50. You don't know that.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:08 PM
Jan 2017

But what a sneaky way to get in a slam at a child.

He's not homeschooled either.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
21. The more I watch Melania the more I tend to agree with you.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:13 AM
Jan 2017

Women enter into and stay in abusive relationships for a variety of reasons, some we may not be able to wrap our heads around but they're very real to them.

whathehell

(29,023 posts)
34. With all due respect, it's wrong..
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:07 AM
Jan 2017

that it's wrong to assume that Melania is in an abusive relationship with Trump...We really don't know anything about the inside of their marriage.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
54. I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough. I'm not assuming that she is...
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:32 PM
Jan 2017

I was trying to say 'if' she is. As you said we don't know about the inside of their marriage. We also don't know all the facts about her nor that her politics are truly the same as her husband's so for now... for HER... I'm inclined to take a "wait and see" approach.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
28. Best sign I saw at yesterday's march (Oakland) . . .
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:52 AM
Jan 2017

Was held by an elegantly dressed young woman, reading: "Melania girl, are you OK? Blink twice for yes."

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
39. Gold digger
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:34 AM
Jan 2017

Mrs. tRump finally discovered that money can not buy happiness. Waiting for her husband to discover that it can not buy CLASS or INTELLIGENCE, either.

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
53. Marla has a tale to tell
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:06 PM
Jan 2017

She wrote a book called "All That Glitters Is Not Gold," but just as it was about to be shipped to stores, Donald put a stop to it.

Vinca

(50,233 posts)
7. I think Barron is off limits, too. He's just a kid.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:18 AM
Jan 2017

I feel sorry for him living in his gilded castle wearing suits all the time. The kid needs dirty jeans and a slimy frog to pick up every so often.

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
9. I agree
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:23 AM
Jan 2017

I remember back in the 90s when the right said absolutely horrible things about Chelsea Clinton. No child should be subject to abuse like that.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
48. Rush got what was comming to him by losing his hearing and a divorce..........
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:54 AM
Jan 2017

Why do the rightwingers love to act like grade schoolers.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,232 posts)
10. I'm with you. Please leave him alone.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:24 AM
Jan 2017

Last edited Sun Jan 22, 2017, 05:20 PM - Edit history (1)

He has severe social anxiety. Being in the spotlight is his worst nightmare. Well, what could happen as a result is his worst nightmare.

Been there; done that.

He's a victim, not a perpetrator. He has enough problems already.

I'll link to a thread about Barron from Friday. I'm on a slow connection now.

ETA: OMG, Baron looks so uncomfortable, almost terrified.

hlthe2b

(102,057 posts)
12. Uday & Qusay are fair game.... Lets hope Barron manages to be the exception..
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:27 AM
Jan 2017



I hope Melania keeps him far away from that crew. I wish more, that she would try to give him some normal childhood--with some exposure to the real world (and its problems), as Diana did with William and Harry.

But, regardless, I think he is off limits.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
37. I am always amazed when young men who still have good hair growth
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:18 AM
Jan 2017

comb it straight back like an old man. Its like they are trying to be unattractive.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
41. Trying?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:39 AM
Jan 2017

Now looking unattractive is something Beavis and Butthead have actually succeeded at, doncha think? Now that daddy warlock has made his way into the WH, they can go shoot some beautiful amimals overseas.

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
52. Barron is close to his grandparents
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:03 PM
Jan 2017

and speaks fluent Slovakian. Donald was never home much, anyway.

oasis

(49,309 posts)
13. I'll give Barron the kid glove treatment, but Beavis and Butthead,
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:28 AM
Jan 2017

his dipshit brothers, get as much of my venom as they deserve.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
14. Go after those adults who deserve it...
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:59 AM
Jan 2017

... for their attacks, attitude and stances on facts, rights, beliefs and policies we hold dear. IME it does nothing to further our agenda, and may actually harm it with many, to mock and belittle minor children.

Squinch

(50,890 posts)
15. Anyone who would fuck around with a child's psyche is evil. Yes. They are evil. We are not.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:03 AM
Jan 2017

By all means take off the gloves and bring them down with every dirty tactic that we have to use against them.

But leave the kids out of it.

Bengus81

(6,927 posts)
16. Of course the Republicans let HATE radio do all the children bashing
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:04 AM
Jan 2017

And then claim they would never do such a thing. Limbaugh has been bashing WH children of Dems since Carter.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
42. Limbaugh
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jan 2017

Yes, the handsome, beguiling, much married hunk - NOT. Has his 3rd wife left yet, since her contract must be over by now.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
17. Ivanka and her brothers are fair game
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:05 AM
Jan 2017

As they took active roles in the campaign and put themselves in the spotlight.

Free Barron and Tiffany.

Bengus81

(6,927 posts)
19. The only thing I've said anywhere similar
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:07 AM
Jan 2017

Is....that the crowds at your Inauguration looked Barren Trump............


Tommy_Carcetti

(43,128 posts)
18. Barron's probably the only member of that family who showed any humanity on Friday
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:05 AM
Jan 2017

Pretty telling that only a 10 year old seems the genuine one of the bunch.

I hope against hope the kid turns out to be okay and the antithesis of who his dad is.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
22. Of course you're right. Unless they're of the age to vote, they're non-combatants.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:19 AM
Jan 2017

Unless, of course, they are actually holding a gun or a weapon and threatening people, which is not common among the children of US politicians, but sadly, has happened all too often in areas beset with civil violence around the world.

Your "friend" has an ethical screw loose.

mnhtnbb

(31,365 posts)
25. Leave Barron alone. Melania, though, I think is fair game.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:34 AM
Jan 2017

I do doubt that she supported Trump's decision to run for president and probably wants
nothing to do with living in DC or the duties that fall to the wife of the president.

But, she made her bed. She can either go with it, refuse to participate, separate from him, or divorce him.

The adult children are also fair game.

LenaBaby61

(6,972 posts)
26. IF and I say IF ....
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:46 AM
Jan 2017

What has been alleged is true, tRumputin called his OWN son Barron a "retard."

So you know that piece of filth doesn't give one shit about other people's kids who he's going to end up MURDERING because it's his INTENT to remove their health care.

Barron's lucky--he has health care, and I'd have NO qualms about bringing Barron into the discussion in this way at all.

He's fair game in that respect IMHO.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
31. MT seems to protect him fiercly
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:57 AM
Jan 2017

and I honestly believe that * has been sexually inappropriate with Ivanka.
Makes me wonder if THAT is why MT protects Barron so fiercely...since * is clearly a sexual predator.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
33. Agreed. Non involved and young kids are off limits
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:04 AM
Jan 2017

But his adult kids are actively working against us so they're fair game.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
35. Agree, children should be off limits
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:15 AM
Jan 2017

Interesting to note. Yesterday a Trump supporter posted on Facebook her dismay the "girls" were not at the inauguration. She suggested this showed no respect. She spun and spun until i pointed out to her the fact that historically children have been off limits. To top it off her son snidely replied "Maybe they were afraid they were going to be groped". This silenced her.

Ilsa

(61,687 posts)
38. Barron is off limits.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:31 AM
Jan 2017

He's a kid, and he may have other issues at work.

Melania is generally fair game, but not for trump's policies.

Bettie

(16,049 posts)
40. There is plenty to go after
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:38 AM
Jan 2017

without bringing the young boy into it.

However, his older spawn are all fair game as well as a cornucopia of conflicts of interest.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
44. Well someone just posted a link to his facebook page....and it is filled with inflammatory posts
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:46 AM
Jan 2017

can that really be his facebook page? I just can't believe it !! He is 10 years old and I just can't imagine a child posting what is on his page.

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