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Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:35 AM

4chan Claims It Invented the Trump Golden Showers Story

This is getting really weird.

The forum alleged an anonymous user invented Tuesday’s bombshell about Donald Trump and Russian prostitutes—and then passed it onto a Republican operative. But there’s a weak stream of proof.


From the dailybeast:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/10/4chan-claims-they-invented-the-trump-golden-showers-story.html

So much misinformation!

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Reply 4chan Claims It Invented the Trump Golden Showers Story (Original post)
ProudLib72 Jan 2017 OP
KGBot001 Jan 2017 #1
BainsBane Jan 2017 #2
oberliner Jan 2017 #33
RB TexLa Jan 2017 #3
roamer65 Jan 2017 #4
.99center Jan 2017 #5
cyclonefence Jan 2017 #32
Warpy Jan 2017 #6
Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2017 #7
ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #12
Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2017 #13
obamanut2012 Jan 2017 #24
bettyellen Jan 2017 #8
SecularMotion Jan 2017 #31
TheBlackAdder Jan 2017 #41
KGBot001 Jan 2017 #9
NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #10
uponit7771 Jan 2017 #17
grossproffit Jan 2017 #19
uponit7771 Jan 2017 #20
emulatorloo Jan 2017 #28
grossproffit Jan 2017 #18
KamaAina Jan 2017 #37
grossproffit Jan 2017 #38
KamaAina Jan 2017 #39
NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #23
krawhitham Jan 2017 #11
xor Jan 2017 #15
obamanut2012 Jan 2017 #25
oberliner Jan 2017 #34
emulatorloo Jan 2017 #29
xor Jan 2017 #35
Denzil_DC Jan 2017 #14
oasis Jan 2017 #21
Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #16
lou ky dem Jan 2017 #22
rock Jan 2017 #26
eShirl Jan 2017 #27
octoberlib Jan 2017 #30
NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #36
jalan48 Jan 2017 #40
mythology Jan 2017 #42
Generator Jan 2017 #43

Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:38 AM

1. Nah...

 

I think this is to steal clicks... the people leaking this stuff are saying highly compromising personal sexual acts. In the grand scheme of sexual acts... golden showers isnt huge to me. I assume a guy like trump would be more of the buffalo bill type....

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:39 AM

2. The Guardian says the document is real.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:29 AM

33. The document could be real with the information contained within being inaccurate

 

My hunch is that there is some BS mixed in for sure.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:40 AM

3. Create doubt, just like calling anything they don't like Fake News

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:43 AM

4. It's been vetted by many intel people.

This is MI6 work. Good stuff.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:49 AM

5. So much misinformation!

Laura Ingraham's fake news site, now a post about 4 chan. Quit posting fake news.

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Response to .99center (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:28 AM

32. This isn't misinformation

We need to know about shit like this. It's information. OP didn't post "4chan invented story". What we need to know is that 4chan *claimed* it invented story. See the diff?

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:50 AM

6. So does the alt.right/KKK gang on Reddit.

Let them slug it out between them. In the meantime, enough people in the loop will say it's real to keep it out there.

Trump is such a misogynist and total pig that it's an easy sell.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:52 AM

7. Cool story bro! nt

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Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:59 AM

12. Are you suggesting

that I'm trying to spread the misinformation?

I posted this as an example of how the tRumpsters are trying to confuse the hell out of everyone and sow seeds of doubt.

Did you read the article? The title of my post is the title of the article in the dailybeast.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 02:04 AM

13. I'm suggesting that it is indeed a riveting tale ol' chap. nt

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:42 AM

24. Nyet or da?

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:52 AM

8. The Russians live on 4chan and Reddit, endless Mach white nationalist faux hacker bullshit

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:27 AM

31. Voat.co is the JackpineRadical of reddit

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:35 PM

41. +645,295,388 - Just a bunch of jackoffs on that site.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:55 AM

9. People need to remember

 

One of the huge things that came out was the fact there are russians online actively posting missinformation. No offense but even a thread like this could be a russian posting it to cast doubt...

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:57 AM

10. Yeah, I just read this on JPR (what a shocker, eh?)

They're already on-board with the "nothing to see here, folks" meme. It's all a joke started on 4chan, and all of the intel agencies were somehow duped into believing it.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:03 AM

17. WOW !!!

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Response to grossproffit (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:09 AM

20. WTF is wing with these people?!?!

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Response to grossproffit (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:17 AM

28. Maybe he has "Stockholm Syndrome."

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:05 AM

18. Of course they are. Many of them voted for Trump.

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Response to grossproffit (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:46 PM

37. ??? Stein, maybe, but Orange Julius Caesar?!

 

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #37)

Thu Jan 12, 2017, 03:50 PM

38. Yes. They wanted Hillary to lose that badly. Selfish, evil maggots.

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Response to grossproffit (Reply #38)

Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:14 PM

39. I call BS.

 

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:40 AM

23. I can see individuals in an agency being fooled

but, not all of them, and MI6 in the UK

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:57 AM

11. not without a time machine

4Chan claims a post from NOV is the source, but the memo McCain guy (Rick Wilson) got was from June

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 04:56 AM

15. Who runs 4plebs.org?

As I've said, I'm skeptical of the report and can easily see the value in such misinformation being spread. However, do we know who runs the 4plebs site and if they have any desire to create fake archives to discredit the report if it is legit? How is security of the servers that run the applications.

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Response to xor (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:44 AM

25. Sorry, but the report isn't fake

The intel isn't fake.

Nyet or da on it being real?

DA!

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #25)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:30 AM

34. What are you basing that on?

 

Seems like it very likely could be a mix of truth and nonsense.

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Response to xor (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:18 AM

29. Trump indicates was leaked by us intelligence

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:21 PM

35. That is an interesting tweet.

I still have a feeling of possibly being handled/played though. i don't doubt for a second that Russia has information on Trump and that our intelligence agencies know this, but the fact we're in a propaganda war makes everything suspect.

For all we know I could be paid by the FSB or CIA....maybe even both.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 02:14 AM

14. If you want to believe a bunch of trolls who think

that a Never Trump GOP media guy called Rick Wilson was responsible for part of a document that's been doing the rounds in Washington and the media for the past 8 months, that's up to you.

Right now, they're burning up a load of energy swarming him en masse on Twitter, partly out of revenge for his Never Trumpness, and partly because that's how they roll: https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/with_replies

I'd set more store by the opinion of somebody like John Schindler, who used to be high up in the NSA and is now a lecturer (and no friend of the Democratic Party), who thinks the intelligence is broadly credible as raw humint:

John Schindler ‏@20committee

I can't stand Obama, I'm glad Hillary lost, but Trump is beholden 2 Putin & has acted traitorously. Honest patriots on the Right will agree.


Schindler's Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/20committee/with_replies

Other journalists say they were offered the document BuzzFeed published last year, but chose not to run with it because they had no way of verifying the raw intel (and were somewhat distracted by certain emails being published, some of which were indeed falsified).

One Guardian journalist believes she may know the ex-MI6 operative who put the dossier together, and that if she's right, he's highly credible, which chimes with other reported opinions from the security services.

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Response to Denzil_DC (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:17 AM

21. +1

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 06:35 AM

16. Nah, bullshit is pretty easy to spot

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:19 AM

22. How many years did Trump

Peddle fake news about President Obama? Make him prove this is not true.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:25 AM

26. It doesn't matter

What goes around, comes around.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:27 AM

27. ever the trolls

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:23 AM

30. This is bullshit and was probably put out by Trump trolls.

So 4chan passed the documents to John McCain and he took it to the FBI?

Senator John McCain passed documents to the FBI director, James Comey, last month alleging secret contacts between the Trump campaign and Moscow and that Russian intelligence had personally compromising material on the president-elect himself.

The Guardian can confirm that the documents reached the top of the FBI by December. Senator John McCain, who was informed about the existence of the documents separately by an intermediary from a western allied state, dispatched an emissary overseas to meet the source and then decided to present the material to Comey in a one-on-one meeting on 9 December, according to a source aware of the meeting. The documents, which were first reported on last year by Mother Jones, are also in the hands of officials in the White House.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts


The reports were initially commissioned as opposition research by neverTrump Republicans.

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #30)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:30 PM

36. somehow

I don't see John McCain going out onto the interwebs and getting documents from 4chan...

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:17 PM

40. I hope we're not getting Dan Rathered.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:41 PM

42. 4chan claims lots of things

 

There are lots of reasons to be skeptical of the report, but a 4chan person isn't on the list.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:43 PM

43. Debunked fake news is calling the real life fake news

 

Since a real man who was the spy who wrote it is somewhere in Europe hiding for fear of his life, I don't think so. The internet does not control everything unlike the alt right nazi's and the russsian trolls think it does. There is actual life outside of the internet.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/alt-right-trolls-are-trying-to-trick-people-into-thinking-tr?utm_term=.aqzjDa2Go#.hsZWlm8vA

The dossier was mentioned in a Mother Jones piece published a day before a 4chan post referencing a “sex tape”. And the New York Times reported that the papers had been circulating among journalists since the fall of 2016.


DEBUNKED. Did I mention I hate Nazi's and Putin? Because yeah don't play this shit on me.

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