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Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:10 PM

*****INTEL CHIEFS PRESENTED TRUMP WITH CLAIMS OF RUSSIAN EFFORTS TO COMPROMISE HIM***** -PER CNN




Suggestion they have compromising information on him !!!


Communications between Trump and Russian officials.


This is beyond huge !!!






Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts to compromise him
By Evan Perez, Jim Sciutto, Jake Tapper and Carl Bernstein, CNN
Updated 5:15 PM ET, Tue January 10, 2017

(CNN)Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN.

The allegations were presented in a two-page synopsis that was appended to a report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. The allegations came, in part, from memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible. The FBI is investigating the credibility and accuracy of these allegations, which are based primarily on information from Russian sources, but has not confirmed many essential details in the memos about Mr. Trump.
The classified briefings last week were presented by four of the senior-most US intelligence chiefs -- Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers.
One reason the nation's intelligence chiefs took the extraordinary step of including the synopsis in the briefing documents was to make the President-elect aware that such allegations involving him are circulating among intelligence agencies, senior members of Congress and other government officials in Washington, multiple sources tell CNN.
These senior intelligence officials also included the synopsis to demonstrate that Russia had compiled information potentially harmful to both political parties, but only released information damaging to Hillary Clinton and Democrats. This synopsis was not an official part of the report from the intelligence community case about Russian hacks, but some officials said it augmented the evidence that Moscow intended to harm Clinton's candidacy and help Trump's, several officials with knowledge of the briefings tell CNN.
The two-page synopsis also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials.
Sources tell CNN that these same allegations about communications between the Trump campaign and the Russians, mentioned in classified briefings for congressional leaders last year, prompted then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid to send a letter to FBI Director Comey in October, in which he wrote, "It has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government -- a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States."
CNN has confirmed that the synopsis was included in the documents that were presented to Mr. Trump but cannot confirm if it was discussed in his meeting with the intelligence chiefs.
The Trump transition team declined repeated requests for comment.
CNN has reviewed a 35-page compilation of the memos, from which the two-page synopsis was drawn. The memos originated as opposition research, first commissioned by anti-Trump Republicans, and later by Democrats. At this point, CNN is not reporting on details of the memos, as it has not independently corroborated the specific allegations. But, in preparing this story, CNN has spoken to multiple high ranking intelligence, administration, congressional and law enforcement officials, as well as foreign officials and others in the private sector with direct knowledge of the memos.
Some of the memos were circulating as far back as last summer. What has changed since then is that US intelligence agencies have now checked out the former British intelligence operative and his vast network throughout Europe and find him and his sources to be credible enough to include some of the information in the presentations to the President and President-elect a few days ago.
On the same day that the President-elect was briefed by the intelligence community, the top four Congressional leaders, and chairmen and ranking members of the House and Senate intelligence committees -- the so-called "Gang of Eight" -- were also provided a summary of the memos regarding Mr. Trump, according to law enforcement, intelligence and administration sources.
The two-page summary was written without the detailed specifics and information about sources and methods included in the memos by the former British intelligence official. That said, the synopsis was considered so sensitive it was not included in the classified report about Russian hacking that was more widely distributed, but rather in an annex only shared at the most senior levels of the government: President Obama, the President-elect, and the eight Congressional leaders.
CNN has also learned that on December 9, Senator John McCain gave a full copy of the memos -- dated from June through December, 2016 -- to FBI Director James Comey. McCain became aware of the memos from a former British diplomat who had been posted in Moscow. But the FBI had already been given a set of the memos compiled up to August 2016, when the former MI6 agent presented them to an FBI official in Rome, according to national security officials.
The raw memos on which the synopsis is based were prepared by the former MI6 agent, who was posted in Russia in the 1990s and now runs a private intelligence gathering firm. His investigations related to Mr. Trump were initially funded by groups and donors supporting Republican opponents of Mr. Trump during the GOP primaries, multiple sources confirmed to CNN. Those sources also said that once Mr. Trump became the nominee, further investigation was funded by groups and donors supporting Hillary Clinton.
Spokespeople for the FBI and the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment. Officials who spoke to CNN declined to do so on the record given the classified nature of the material.
Some of the allegations were first reported publicly in Mother Jones one week before the election.
One high level administration official told CNN, "I have a sense the outgoing administration and intelligence community is setting down the pieces so this must be investigated seriously and run down. I think concern was to be sure that whatever information was out there is put into the system so it is evaluated as it should be and acted upon as necessary."


http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html















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What have the Deplorables done to the rest of us ?

Why did they saddle us with this man?

Why do they hate America?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:13 PM

1. HUGE - Lock him up!!!!

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Response to chimpymustgo (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:15 PM

5. So the suggestion is the Russians are trying to blackmail Trump.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:17 PM

9. Yes. And some media outlets have been digging up info:

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Response to chimpymustgo (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:51 PM

49. Can you provide another link, please?

Or reference some of the links that may be at the FT page? I get a subscription page; I guess you can't see anything unless you're a subscriber and they don't have free trials?

Thanks much.

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #49)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:47 PM

131. The story's behind the paywall now. But here's David Corn in Mother Jones:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/fbi-information-investigation-trump-russia-wyden

-edit-

With the Washington Post's bombshell report that the CIA has assessed that the Russian hacking of Democratic targets was done as part of a Kremlin operation to help Donald Trump win the election, here's an intriguing question: Has Russian intelligence spied on the president-elect and, if so, what private information has it collected on him? A counterintelligence veteran of a Western spy service in October told Mother Jones that he had uncovered information—and had sent it to the FBI—indicating Russian intelligence had mounted a yearslong operation to cultivate or co-opt Trump and that this project included surveillance that gathered compromising material on the celebrity mogul. Yet there have been no indications from the FBI whether it has investigated this lead. Still, several intelligence professionals say Trump would have indeed been a top priority for Russian intelligence surveillance—especially when he was in Moscow in November 2013 for the Miss Universe pageant, which he owned at the time.

To present the contest in the Russian capital, Trump, who had long tried to do real estate deals in Russia, had teamed up with Aras Agalarov, a billionaire oligarch close to Vladimir Putin (whose son is a popular pop singer). The glitzy event, which included a swanky after-party, drew various Russian notables, including a member of Putin's inner circle and an alleged Russian mobster. Trump later boasted that he had mingled with "almost all of the oligarchs." Trump had hoped that Putin would attend the pageant—tweeting months earlier, "if so, will he become my new best friend?"—but the Russian leader was a no-show.

During Trump's stay in Moscow, US intelligence experts note, he would have been a natural and obvious target for Russian intelligence. At the time, Trump was a prominent American, an international businessman, and a celebrity. He was also deeply involved in US politics. He had almost run for president in 2000 and nearly did so again in 2012, and he had been a leading foe of President Barack Obama, having pushed the conspiracy theory that Obama had been born in Kenya.

A former high-ranking CIA official, who asked not to be identified, says in an email:

It is nearly certain that would have done some sort of surveillance on him. Could have been low-key physical surveillance (following etc) or deeper surveillance, such as video/audio of hotel room and monitoring of electronics (your while is on their network).

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And Corn has updated the story today, based on Sen Wyden's questioning of Comey

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #49)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:54 PM

178. Thanks! n/t

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:36 PM

112. No pillow-talk for Putin tonight!!!

That is, if Trump doesn't just become the last person to not believe all this.

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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #112)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:24 AM

198. I predict this will be bigger than Watergate, it is MAKE WATERgate!!!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:13 PM

2. This should be fun. We deserve to hear every last detail

about this pos .

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:15 PM

3. In the last two minutes this thing has blown up BIGTIME.

McCain, Comey, MI6 agent, ho-ly fuck...

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Response to nolabear (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:21 PM

16. What is the McCain link? nt

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:27 PM

29. Jst Tapper said they had been given the info and were "troubled." Nothing more yet.

This is going to get very convoluted.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:39 PM

120. I just heard that McCain had a 5 minute meeting with Comey, but

I don't understand when it occurred, before or after the election.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #120)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:42 PM

170. It seems to have been before. Comey should be fired.

That bastard knew that Russia had dirt on that asshole, and his team was in contact with the Russian government. And Comey went off on gossip on Hillary's emails.

Jesus. We don't have a country.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #170)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:53 PM

176. Yeah, now I see that. Comey should be

in prison for his part in keeping trump's treasonous secrets. McCain didn't know until December, so he appears to be in the clear, except for not making this information available to the electoral college.

I hope Hillary can go after Comey.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:15 PM

4. Please, oh please, oh please

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:15 PM

6. Republican traitors against America must be exposed & prosecuted

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:24 PM

26. Benedict Donald. nt

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:16 PM

7. Dear DU, what does this mean?

 

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:20 PM

12. Russians are claiming they have potentially compromising information on the president-elect.

I just quoted Jake Tapper verbatim.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:21 PM

17. Thank you, from LBN thread it appears that British Intelligence is dropping information

 

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:28 PM

31. An MI6 agent was one of the sources, apparently. Not much more yet.

It's going to go very quickly.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:23 PM

86. Thank you Brits!

 

If you save us from this creep-I'll forgive that whole original war thing we had with you!

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Response to Generator (Reply #86)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:38 PM

119. Ditto

Last edited Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:08 PM - Edit history (1)

God save the Queen!

edit: typo

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Response to SledDriver (Reply #119)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:49 PM

137. Lol

How quickly we forget.

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Response to Generator (Reply #86)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:52 PM

142. God save the Queen!!

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #142)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 02:29 AM

204. I am not sure that even God can save her.

I believe she thinks he is one of her loyal subjects.













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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:54 PM

177. But they weren't going to expose since Trump's people were providing info on Russian oligarchs in US

Trump's people were complying with Russian requests to find out and report stuff about the business activities of wealthy Russians and their families in US (several reside or have purchased Trump properties). Trump's people were reporting what they knew to Russian authorities who wanted to know as much as possible about Russian emigres in US. Trump's people were also promising he would lift sanctions if elected Pres.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:20 PM

14. Credible source says russians have compromising information

That trump campaign was communicating with the Kremlin.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:22 PM

19. This is unbelievable.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:28 PM

30. Quite the contrary. It's like Lay's potato chips. If you're breaking into one candidate's computers,

why stop with just one?

Bonus: a casino theme:

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:56 PM

52. GEEK STATEMENT OF THE YEAR!! I've been trying to put this in words and this is apt to the nth degree

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:37 PM

114. I'm sure they were reviewing the rnc's opposition research

On HRC as well as information on trump and various other Dem and GOP politicians they could use.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:23 PM

22. +1

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:26 PM

163. Russia and Putin worked to elect trump as POTUS because they had material in hand for blackmail

Putin and company are confident that Trump will behave and be their puppet because Putin has some good dirt on Trump and that can be released if Trump misbehaves. This means that trump will not do anything that is adverse to putin or he will face release of this information.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #163)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:07 PM

184. Buyer's remorse set in.... no shit...

At some point in Sept it seems they had buyer's remorse.
They also were worried about his psychological state and felt he was unfit for high office.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #163)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:35 AM

202. I am betting this is a double edged sword. & I am betting $ the CIA has dirt of their own as well.

They are probably laying out the new "terms of service" as we speak to Trump. Peegate is just the tip of the iceberg. I bet there is so much more to come.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:17 PM

8. It would have been nice to have this info released before the electoral college met

They've evidently been sitting on this since the election.

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Response to crazylikafox (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:37 PM

39. I think that for something this big, they need to have iron clad proof

Unlike the hack job that Comey did on Hillary's emails, something like this, where the supposedly elected president may have been in league with a foreign government, and there may be other players involved, the intelligence and LE agencies need to have a tight story. Watergate, which was probably a smaller scandal than if this is true, took the better part of 2 years to get through.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #39)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:08 PM

67. how convienient, that they have this 2 weeks before inaugeration

Just heard on CNN that Comey's been sitting on this since August.

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Response to crazylikafox (Reply #67)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:12 PM

69. There should be consequences

If this turns out to be the real deal, and he sat on relevant information, he should go down with them.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #69)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 02:18 AM

203. Haven't heard anything regarding any Russian connection

for Comey but, it does seem he was a willing co-conspirator with the Trump Campaign. I wonder if they're looking or have already looked into his recent bank transactions. If it looks like shit and smells like shit well, then guess what! They really need to put the screws to him.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:18 PM

10. FINALLY!!!

The Russians refused to release info damaging to Trump, only Clinton;

Our intelligence community - FBI - knew someone in Trump campaign was communicating with the Kremlin!!!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:19 PM

11. Will Roger Stone be indicted first?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:20 PM

13. Wow.

I just wish I had more faith in the FBI at this point. I don't.


But still. Wow.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:20 PM

15. Trump is fucking compromised, the only person he's never attacked is Putin.

This is surreal...

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:21 PM

18. Whoa!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:22 PM

20. He's known all along.

He's been compromised from the start, and it's no secret to him. There's no other way to explain his bizarre behavior vis-a-vis Russia.

He can't stay in office. Now - what did Pence know, and when did he know it?

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Response to Maven (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:41 PM

122. This is a very important point

And my first thought.

This is a shock to everyone but him

His reply will be forthcoming and foretelling

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Response to GusBob (Reply #122)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:59 PM

183. Whaddya bet he calls off tomorrow's news conference?

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Response to Maven (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:47 PM

132. That's my question as well.

If the Trump campaign benefited from the Russian strategy, then Pence was a beneficiary as well. The ticket is dirty. I don't want President Pence any more than I want Trump.

And that idiot Chaffetz is busy babbling about investigating Obama for the national monument designation in Utah and still sniffing around for something to hang on Hillary.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #132)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 05:14 AM

205. If the tRump campaign colluded with Russia...

And essentially made a mockery of this election. Can't we have an election re-do?

May sound crazy now, but we have never nominated two treasonous prez elects???

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:23 PM

21. This renders the Pence of Darkness & all Trump cabinet peeps ILLEGITIMATE

AKA BASTARDS

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:23 PM

23. !!!

"The two-page synopsis also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials."

Alfa bank / Trump server connection?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:23 PM

24. more details

The two-page synopsis also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials.

Sources tell CNN that these same allegations about communications between the Trump campaign and the Russians, mentioned in classified briefings for congressional leaders last year, prompted then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid to send a letter to FBI Director Comey in October, in which he wrote, "It has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government -- a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States."

...

The two-page summary was written without the detailed specifics and information about sources and methods included in the memos by the former British intelligence official. That said, the synopsis was considered so sensitive it was not included in the classified report about Russian hacking that was more widely distributed, but rather in an annex only shared at the most senior levels of the government: President Obama, the President-elect, and the eight Congressional leaders.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html

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Response to etherealtruth (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:25 PM

90. My senator Ron Wyden asked about this today

 

I know he knows. God this fucking asshole cannot be president. I refuse to speak Russian.

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Response to Generator (Reply #90)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:34 PM

106. Its like we have entered some king of crazy dystopian land ....

How in the eff did we get here?

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Response to etherealtruth (Reply #106)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:45 PM

130. dump bet on stupid and won. n/t

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Response to Generator (Reply #90)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:48 PM

135. Bernstein said something like when Wyden asks a question he already knows the answer.

I have always had the highest respect for Ron Wyden.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:23 PM

25. The incoming President is ILLEGITIMATE

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #25)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:16 PM

74. Sure is!

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #25)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:55 PM

181. Maybe worse. Dare I use the T word.

He better lawyer up.

And we need a referendum election! We need the popular vote getter to protect this nation NOW!!!

Fuck the KGOP!!!

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Response to ffr (Reply #181)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:13 PM

187. Yes. I'll say it

TRAITOR!! We still have 9 days. I have to believe that something can be done.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:24 PM

27. The FBI could release negative info about HRC ...




but they would keep quiet on anything they might know about Trump.

This is so predictable.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:14 PM

70. My thoughts as well

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #70)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:54 PM

179. Yep only the E mails were important to comey

Hope he goes down with the rest of trump and gang. Should be interesting "press conference" tomorrow but we know trump won't allow questions at this event.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:50 PM

173. Not even negative information. The POSSIBILITY that negative information...

... might, just might, appear soon.

Then after the damage is done, "whoops, it's all stuff we already have! Nevermind."

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Response to JHB (Reply #173)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:52 PM

175. Exactly




Thank you for clarifying that.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:26 PM

28. The man should be arrested, not inaugurated.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:31 PM

32. Time for a tweet!

Tweet!Tweet!

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Response to coco22 (Reply #32)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:51 PM

141. Ass hat is going to

Tweet like a flock of wrens.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:33 PM

33. Wow! Just wow.

They have been busy boys haven't they. No wonder Obama has been so closed mouth about every thing.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:35 PM

37. Exactly.

For all the people complaining why Obama wasn't speaking out more forcefully.....this is why.

Letting the process play itself out.

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Response to PragmaticLiberal (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:42 PM

124. Yup!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:33 PM

34. ATTEMPTS to compromise him? The fucking guy has been turned--cultivated over the years.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:33 PM

35. Yep. Dude can't be POTUS. Just can't be.

I'm fine with another Republican placeholder but it can't be Trump.

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Response to PragmaticLiberal (Reply #35)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 05:15 AM

206. What if many rethuglicans were aware of collusion?

Obama needs to stay in office. No inauguration on the 20th!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:34 PM

36. How is this different from what info we've seen before?

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Response to progressoid (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:37 PM

38. We never were apprised of the fact the Russians have compromising information on Trump...

We never were apprised of the fact the Russians have compromising information on Trump and he is subject to blackmail:



Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:40 PM

43. With so much shit coming out about DT, it's hard to know what is real and what is speculative.

It appears that CNN is trying to confirm what we all suspected. I'll have to read more when I have more time tonight!

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Response to progressoid (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:39 PM

40. It basically confirms what we've all suspected all along.

And it's good vindication to all the people out there who insist we're just sore losers.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:41 PM

45. GMTA.

I just posted the same thing above!

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:25 PM

91. Indeed nt

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:42 PM

190. Amen!

Somehow this does NOT surprise me at all.

Gotta say, I KNEW something was up when these stories kept coming out about Hillary's emails and DNC hacks and all these cyber-attacks against what appeared to be Dems-ONLY. Didn't that seem just a wee bit fishy to anybody? Sure did seem that way to me. I started tweeting to every and any news anchor and reporter I could think of, MONTHS AGO. Anybody think they might have started smelling a rat somewhere, back then? And then to start connecting the dots - from Paul Manafort and Carter Page and Roger Stone and others on the trump team who had deep and longstanding connections to Russia. And then how kissy-kissy trump was toward Vladimir Putin. Something just didn't feel right!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:39 PM

41. Me thinks donald fucked with the wrong people-INTEL PEOPLE he continued to de-mean

them

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Response to Old Vet (Reply #41)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:41 PM

44. Hey, Old Vet

My pop didn't get blinded in one eye by shrapnel and contact malaria in the Battle Of North Africa so some clown could sell us out to Russia.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #44)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:53 PM

50. I think trump and his family were definately working business deals with russia....

During the election, Trump has surrounded himself with Russian yes people. Hope your pop is doing better and the VA is treating him right....

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #44)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:57 PM

54. No kidding

my dad is spinning in his grave for sure

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #44)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:59 PM

57. +1

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #44)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:42 PM

123. My dad served in North Africa also.

Never said much about it. My mom told me the guys that actually saw combat never told war stories. They came home and started their lives. The Greatest Generation, you know.

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #123)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:45 PM

128. I keep his pocket sized Honorable Discharge in my wallet.

Do you know that the Drumpfs have been here for a hundred or so years and not one has wore our nation's uniform?

Amazing.

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Response to Old Vet (Reply #41)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:59 PM

56. +1, I said this myself... who in the fuck wakes up one day and fucks with US intel agencies !??!?!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:39 PM

42. Hope this report doesn't backfire, ala Dan Rather/Bush AWOL story.

The MSM will be inclined to dismiss any previously reported Russian/Trump connections if flaws are found in this recent discovery.

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Response to oasis (Reply #42)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:07 PM

65. Please, for the sake of all that is good and righteous...

let the truth come out and justice prevail. Our future depends on it.

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #65)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:17 PM

76. So Comey held back this information so's not to affect the election?

How patriotic of him

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #65)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:39 PM

213. He's using the unsourced Buzzfeed story to discredit CNN.

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Response to oasis (Reply #42)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:38 PM

116. True, but

One thought: Carl Eff-ing Bernstein. Guy knows how it needs to be done. I hope.

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Response to BadgerMom (Reply #116)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:51 PM

211. I suspected a setup. As of 1/11, I'm afraid ANY Trump/Putin story

will be now dismissed by Kellyanne/ Sean Spicer as "fake" news. Hopefully CNN can make a strong comeback with more evidence.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:46 PM

46. here's the part I like.


"....the top four Congressional leaders, and chairmen and ranking members of the House and Senate intelligence committees -- the so-called "Gang of Eight" -- were also provided a summary of the memos regarding Mr. Trump, according to law enforcement, intelligence and administration sources. "

So.. these guys all know!!

Come on. come on.. 4th a 5 on our own 42..... 1:23 left! down 6-0....GO FOR IT !!!!!!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:49 PM

47. I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!!!

Heard it while driving nearly drove into a ditch. YES!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:49 PM

48. Looks like CNN is actually doin their job. Let's hope they keep it up.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #48)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:03 PM

62. Just remember what the republicans did to those involved in the Bush army reserve story........

The news people need to get this right, And explain in a way anyone can understand Trump did wrong.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:54 PM

51. Treason. Impeach him now.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:56 PM

53. It sure is huge

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:58 PM

55. Russia says it was in touch with Trump's campaign during election

Nov 10th 2016

The Russian government was in touch with members of President-elect Donald Trump's political team during the U.S. election campaign and knows most of his entourage, one of Russia's most senior diplomats told the Interfax news agency on Thursday.

Accused by defeated Democratic contender Hillary Clinton of being a puppet of President Vladimir Putin after praising the Russian leader, Trump has dismissed suggestions he had anything to do with the Russian government during the campaign.

But in comments that could prove politically awkward for the president-elect, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said there had indeed been some communications.

"There were contacts," Interfax cited Ryabkov as saying. "We are doing this and have been doing this during the election campaign."

FBI INQUIRY

The Federal Bureau of Investigation opened a preliminary inquiry in recent months into allegations that Trump or his associates might have had questionable dealings with Russian people or businesses, but found no evidence to warrant opening a full investigation, according to sources familiar with the matter. The agency has not publicly discussed the probe.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-russia-trump-idUSKBN1351RJ

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:00 PM

58. Will his swamp-ridden cabinet and department picks stand?

Please say no.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #58)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:11 PM

185. Seems a lot, if not most,

of them have some tie to Russia.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #185)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:14 AM

196. I'm devastated all over again.

We must stand together. Please, all of us. Stand strong. This is a coup. Don't yet trust that the media will have our backs. This is a crossroads of monumental proportions.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:00 PM

59. Have Trump Withdraw, Have Pence Name Clinton VP-elect. Have Pence Sworn In/Resign


Have Clinton Sworn-In. Offer Deplorables Assisted Immigration to Russia. Keep a Hawk-Like Eye on Republican Office-Holders.

Problems solved

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Response to delisen (Reply #59)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:57 PM

182. heh heh; i like that plan. nt

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:00 PM

60. Oh. My. God!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:00 PM

61. And this is why you don't mess with intelligence agencies

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:05 PM

63. KICK. Some of us have been saying it since the coup. nt

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #63)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:32 PM

103. Since way before.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #103)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:48 PM

134. true that.

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #134)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:31 PM

166. He thinks he's so clever and smart, but Putin is WILY and smart....and evil. Trump the CHUMP.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:07 PM

64. But is it too late?

Can he be stopped? The intent here is clearly to have him quit before inauguration day.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:08 PM

66. Putin has some good dirt on Trump which is why Trump is nice to putin

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:09 PM

68. I belive Theodore Roosevelt said...

... "If you've got them by the balls, theirhearts and minds will follow."



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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:14 PM

71. So we have a President that can be blackmailed by a foreign government

Isn't that peachy

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Response to Thrill (Reply #71)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:17 PM

75. Well, that's been obvious to most of us here for some time.

Nice to see them talking about it publicly now that nothing can be done about it.

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Response to Thrill (Reply #71)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:21 PM

82. "can be" or "has been"?

This is big.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:14 PM

72. So we still install this Fucker?

we still go ahead with it? Comey and the whole bunch should be sentences to prison for life

Traitors all of them

How can we act like this is normal? How can we go ahead with this farce? Jesus People, wake the fuck up.

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #72)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:18 PM

78. Welcome President Pence.

Everything appears to be going as planned.

Holy Shit

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:15 PM

73. Compromising material?

Besides financial info anything of a sexual nature would have to be really bad.

Mere adultery is nothing nowadays. Underage? Male hookers boning Trump in a mini skirt?

The mind boggles but the world demands answers.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:18 PM

77. He didn't read it

even if he could... more than 140 chars

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:19 PM

79. Kicking again. Just because.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:20 PM

80. Now can we bring charges and take it to court?

I am talking about criminal court... Not the Senate

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:20 PM

81. Are there two parts to this?

Russians have compromising info on Trump - financial and personal AND

Trump's campaign staff communicating with Russians, per Russians, before and after campaign. Before for hacking. After for blackmail. ( Though not clear why Russians saying this, but reported as "according to Russians" on the communication.)

Is this correct?

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Response to mchill (Reply #81)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:22 PM

83. Those are the key revelations-Collaboration and Blackmail.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #83)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:28 PM

97. Key words COLLABORATION and BLACKMAIL- We need full disclosure

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:22 PM

84. They put it in the briefing to make sure trump knows

That they have him by the balls and can squeeze anytime they want if he tries to mess with the intelligence agencies. Notice that after the meeting Trump did not disparage the intelligence officials. He is a fool and is totally outmatched. It would have been better for fbi and cia to release that before the elections and disqualify him instead of making us having to go through a trump presidency.




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Response to drray23 (Reply #84)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:35 PM

108. +1

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Response to drray23 (Reply #84)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:08 PM

150. i noticed this

all he said was it didn't affect the ballot boxes...............

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:23 PM

85. Paging Capt. Obvious,

you have a call on line duh. Der fuckenstick is compromised.

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Response to snort (Reply #85)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:26 PM

94. What I have thought for months!

 

As fucking obvious as the nose on my face. Twitterland is going nuts. Can't wait for Scumbag Trump to deny it.

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Response to Generator (Reply #94)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:33 PM

105. I'm looking forward to reading

some of the juicier tweets. This, in its own twisted way, could be entertaining.

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Response to snort (Reply #85)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:34 PM

107. Hey, 1K.

I'm somebody, Ma.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:24 PM

87. I knew it. nt

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:24 PM

89. So maybe Obama should put a hold on the family's packing.... Yathink?

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Response to lamp_shade (Reply #89)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:31 PM

102. To what end?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:25 PM

92. I want to know about Courier Ivanka and Wendy Deng

Remember Groper Don the Con said use couriers not email

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Response to malaise (Reply #92)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 03:36 PM

215. Good point!

His relationship with Russia has been deeply concerning to me for a very long time: hired Paul Manaforte; Ivanka "vacationed" with Putin's girlfriend, Trump used information only published on a Russian news site, and Russian officials have said they were in touch with the Trump campaign all along.

Not sure why Traitor Trump is such a surprise. The only surprise seems to be the additional evidence and possible "smoking gun."

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Response to blitzburgh55 (Reply #99)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:25 AM

199. Thanks. Looks like links are both to same doc?

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Response to blitzburgh55 (Reply #93)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:46 PM

171. Where did this come from? How'd you find it?

I'm dying to pass it on.

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Response to blitzburgh55 (Reply #93)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:47 PM

172. I saved both of these to my computer. Thanks for making them available.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:27 PM

95. I'd love to know

What the russkies have on maggot.

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #95)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:45 PM

129. personal and financial.

that tells me all i need to know. any further info will cause me to

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:27 PM

96. Traitorous scumbags. The Dumpsters are fucking traitors.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #96)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:32 PM

104. They are global Capitalists, loyal to money, not country.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:29 PM

98. WHO didn't know....

About this?

Of course I didn't officially KNOW, but it was always a good bet that the ruskies would be holding something BIG over that big, fat, lacquer headed, racist, idiot, and would be forcing him to do their bidding against the USA. He also has "info" on the rethugs as well.

Like who didn't think this from the get go?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:29 PM

100. lol, russia is winning all over this one.

no matter how it goes our system looks weak.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:30 PM

101. Perhaps Trump has never viewed this scene "From Russia with Love"?

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #101)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:55 PM

180. Good concept; she's a little mature for The Donald. That's only one of the things they've got on him

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:35 PM

109. President Elect Pence

Which may be just as bad, but Trump can't survive this one

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Response to Wernothelpless (Reply #109)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:36 PM

113. +1, me thinks this was for Pence from the start... MiniPutin doesn't want real work

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:35 PM

110. Compromising personal information? Daughtergate?

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #110)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:51 PM

140. op worthy!!!!

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #140)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:57 PM

145. I bet the Russians used hidden cameras when he visited them in the past.

Who knows what they saw in his hotel room?

I'm not sure if Ivanka was ever with him in Russia, though.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:36 PM

111. Franken Just Grilled Beauregard.

Had him on his heels. Cruz up now and changed the subject.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:37 PM

115. It sure explains why Trump licks Putin's boots.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:38 PM

117. this explains why trump has been such a champion of putin et al

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:38 PM

118. This is bad. And the only good thing is

it's going to get a lot worse.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:39 PM

121. Trump has twitter


And the intel community has volumes of material and dozens of reporters that they can leak it to.

Who do you think will win this fight.

Trump has antagonized both the media and the intelligence community before taking an oath.

Trump may be right. I may get tired of winning.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #121)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:50 PM

139. +1

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:44 PM

125. Thank you for posting this. It's truly a critical thinking exercise.

Pay attention and read read read .

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:44 PM

126. Some of the allegations were first reported publicly in Mother Jones one week before the election.

Journalism

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Response to underpants (Reply #126)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:49 PM

136. +1, Wasn't David Corn on top of all of this? Seems like right now its just allegations but one poste

... poster did notice Benedict Donald's tone did change.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:45 PM

127. Raise your hand if you believe this won't change a damn thing!

*raises*

I've lost all faith lol

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Response to retrowire (Reply #127)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:50 PM

138. I'm bout there too... I know hackers can't eat just one chip and if this guy gets in the fuck it

... to be damned.

Nuke codes etc... gone

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Response to retrowire (Reply #127)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:54 PM

143. Depends what you mean by change.

If these details are true his whole presidency will be undermined. The GOP won't impeach him because Drumpf and the Deplorables will throw up so much smoke however they will be at war with themselves and too busy fighting one another to get things done. They will get shellacked in the mid-terms and 2020.

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Response to retrowire (Reply #127)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:58 PM

146. Never give up. n/t

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:47 PM

133. Too bad there isn't a clearinghouse for hackers.

I'm envisioning a wicked leak-oriented network that would allow Anonymous hackers a conduit through which they could pass purloined info. They could kick ass an ge t this bastard.

Hell, it could be fronted by a megalomaniacal rapist fugitive and no one would mind.

That would be the shitz, huh?

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #133)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:56 PM

144. ... or a new journalistic endeavor...

that could Intercept this information and give us a First Look at the details. One that had a transparency activist living in Russia, essentially on their payroll.

That wold be so cool.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:01 PM

147. PRESIDENT OBAMA WE NEED A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!!!!!!!

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #147)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:09 PM

151. Exactly, LB!!!!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:05 PM

148. LOCK HIM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to BigDemVoter (Reply #148)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:33 PM

167. THE PERFECT RESPONSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:07 PM

149. I had hope when I got on this thread but

CNN's breaking news at 7pm eastern is the President's farewell address. WTF??? This ought to be breaking tv and the internet!!!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:09 PM

152. Video.


No, not THE video, just the CNN segmnt.





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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:09 PM

153. my God!

My God. 150 replied in one hour. Could be a DU record! Would you say we are desperate for good news? This could be the hail Mary to end all hail Marys.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:10 PM

154. BUT....BUT.....BUT.....HER EMAILS!!!

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Response to Skittles (Reply #154)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:13 PM

156. Oh, yeah.




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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:15 PM

158. This is a constitutional crisis

But the treasonous Republican Party will sweep it under the rug and say " move along, nothing to see here".

The MSM will reporting more on Dylan Roof than this. I bet Fox will not even report this. None of the Reich wing media will report because they are all treasonous party over country bastards.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #158)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:25 AM

207. I believe you are right...

As excited and disgusted as I am for this info to be out there I have a sinking feeling in my stomach it won't make a difference.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:15 PM

159. This HAS to finish him, right?

The big question all this time has been, did Trump KNOW what the Russians were doing? Now it seems the answer is yes. Whatever "surrogates" were in contact need to be charged with treason and offered immunity to testify against Trump.

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Response to Takket (Reply #159)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:51 PM

193. In any sane world, yet, it should. I actually don't think he will last that long

 

He's fatally wounded...

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #193)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:26 AM

208. We are far removed from a sane world these days..

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:19 PM

160. Imagine Trump being sworn in

And impeached on the same day... oh please let it happen...

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:20 PM

161. How many investigations are still ongoing, will they come to a conclusion by the 20th?

"But intelligence agencies considered it so potentially explosive that they decided Mr. Obama, Mr. Trump and congressional leaders needed to be told about it and that the agencies were actively investigating it."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html
The summary is based on memos generated by political operatives seeking to derail Mr. Trump’s candidacy. Details of the reports began circulating in the fall and were widely known among journalists and politicians in Washington.

The summary was presented as an annex to the intelligence agencies’ report on the Russian hacking of the election, the officials said. The material was not corroborated, and The New York Times has not been able to confirm the claims. But intelligence agencies considered it so potentially explosive that they decided Mr. Obama, Mr. Trump and congressional leaders needed to be told about it and that the agencies were actively investigating it.

Intelligence officials were concerned that the information would leak before they informed Mr. Trump of its existence, said the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the summary is classified and talking about it would be a felony.

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Response to sweetroxie (Reply #162)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:52 PM

174. Brings a whole new meaning to using Wiki Leaks ... (nt)

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Response to sweetroxie (Reply #162)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:21 PM

188. They call him "The Whiz Kid":

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Response to sweetroxie (Reply #162)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 10:37 PM

194. That explains his skin tone...

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:29 PM

164. Smoking gun?


I know this seems like a smoking gun, but it can be cleaned up.

You know there is one, but can congress force the FBI to cough it up? Does the CIA have the smoking gun intel? I wonder if it is soooooo compromising, sooooooo far reaching that they can't just come out and spill it because it will cause mass riots. Are they going to disappear Comey, tRump, Pence, Rand, etc? Maybe they will do this over time, in baby steps so that the masses won't try to connect the dots.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:31 PM

165. trump probably in debt to Russians for quite a while

It's my belief that this repulsive bag of pus was fronted by the USSR as early as 1989 when his "businesses," especially in Atlantic City, went in the toilet, just like they always do. No American bank would touch him.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:33 PM

168. ...

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:41 PM

169. And he spent his time tweeting about Streep?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:13 PM

186. There was lots of talk about HRC being under investigation on Day One of her administration,

well guess what, Trump just may be under investigation. After years of vetting HRC the vetting of DJT has yet to begin. Yes, to think our president is going to have to bow to Putin is a scary thought.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:36 PM

189. I'm shocked. Just shocked.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:42 PM

191. At this point,

I'm willing to put money on Trump not being sworn in. Not a lot of money, but money nonetheless.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:50 PM

192. If they are hoping Trump will go away quietly and let Pence take over, they do not know Trump.

The GOP is now saddled with him.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue Jan 10, 2017, 11:02 PM

195. I hope this is true and the fuhrer misses

his inauguration.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:24 AM

197. Read it for yourself . . . not safe for work

Here's the dossier:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.pdf

And here's a quote from page 2, paragraph 3:


However, there were other aspects to Trump's engagement with the Russian authorities which had borne fruit for them was to exploit Trump's personal obsessions and sexual perversion in order to obtain suitable "kompromat" (compromising material) on him. According to Source D, where s/he had been present, Trump's (perverted) conduct in Moscow including the Presidential suite of the Ritz Carlton Hotel, where he knew President and Mrs. Obama (whom he hated) had stayed on one of their official trips to Russia, and defiling the bed where they had slept by employing a number of prostitutes to perform a "golden showers" (urination) show in front of him. The hotel was known to be under FSB control with microphones and concealed cameras in all the main rooms to record anything they wanted to.

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Response to OldRedneck (Reply #197)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:26 AM

201. ugh... from grabbing you know what, to peeing....how presidential, eh?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:05 PM

209. I can hear Donnie Deplorable now: "Putin is a loser. Sad.

Over rated dictator. Believe me."

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:37 PM

210. A journalist friend of mine in the UK told me about this in mid-late October.

He kept expecting to see it explode as the October Surprise and was baffled why it was never revealed. I'm furious we're only hearing about it now when apparently both the security services and some journalists have known.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:56 PM

212. He should be impeached before he takes office

I wonder if there is any legal path for this. I guess it would "Require an act of Congress" and not likely that Congress, given its inertia is totally RED right now ... it will take months even in the most pressing issue. (Which this fucking is!)

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:56 PM

214. Let's be honest - As much as I want this to be true (and don't at the same time),

something about this seems fishy. The report doesn't seem professional at all.

I'm not saying it's fake, but it should be approached with healthy skepticism. The fact that this hasn't been verified is worrisome.

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