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Sat Jan 7, 2017, 09:47 PM

"What's the Big Deal?" Trump supporters don't care about Russian interference

From the NYT at: http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/07/us/russia-hacking-election-trump-voters.html

This article describes the response that many Trump supporters have in regard to the U.S. intelligence release on Thursday. Pretty incredible what they think.

COVINGTON, La. — “Sour grapes,” explained Bob Marino, 79, weighing in on the recent spycraft bombshell from the corner table of a local McDonald’s.

“Sour grapes,” agreed Roger Noel, 65, sitting next to him.

“Bunch of crybabies,” Reed Guidry, 64, offered from across the table.

“From the parts of the report I’ve seen,” said Rob Maness, a retired Air Force colonel who twice ran for Senate here as Tea Party favorite, “it seems silly.”

“I don’t believe it,” Mr. Yates, 78, said flatly of the intelligence report. He was standing in the yard under his “Make America Great Again” flag, which he bought at a gun show several months ago. “Why would Putin even want Trump?”

But Mr. Yates then added: “Why is everybody so afraid of Russia? I’m not against Putin.”

In Louisiana, David Gubert, 56, chain-smoked Eagle 20 cigarettes in the cab of his pickup, with stacks of firewood for sale behind him in the bed. Like the Willises, he ruminated on what it would mean if the Russians had gotten involved, and possibly even swung the election.

But Mr. Gubert came to a different conclusion.

“If that’s what it took,” he said, “I’m glad they did it.”

This last response is the most insane, but I'm pretty sure it's common among Trump supporters. It's ok if you feel completely sickened by the article. I know I am.

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Reply "What's the Big Deal?" Trump supporters don't care about Russian interference (Original post)
ProudLib72 Jan 2017 OP
LonePirate Jan 2017 #1
SharonAnn Jan 2017 #11
notdarkyet Jan 2017 #23
True_Blue Jan 2017 #28
msongs Jan 2017 #2
atreides1 Jan 2017 #3
UTUSN Jan 2017 #4
democratisphere Jan 2017 #5
stopbush Jan 2017 #6
smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #7
SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #30
neverforget Jan 2017 #8
uponit7771 Jan 2017 #20
ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #9
VOX Jan 2017 #14
tenorly Jan 2017 #26
JI7 Jan 2017 #27
Dawson Leery Jan 2017 #29
bdamomma Jan 2017 #10
BlueStater Jan 2017 #12
VOX Jan 2017 #13
ffr Jan 2017 #24
roamer65 Jan 2017 #25
Ligyron Jan 2017 #34
spanone Jan 2017 #15
HassleCat Jan 2017 #16
gulliver Jan 2017 #17
Initech Jan 2017 #19
gulliver Jan 2017 #21
Initech Jan 2017 #22
Ligyron Jan 2017 #35
Initech Jan 2017 #18
Docreed2003 Jan 2017 #31
Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #32
Historic NY Jan 2017 #33

Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 09:54 PM

1. This article is Exhibit A of the massive stupidity that infests the Republican Party nowadays.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:41 PM

11. Remember all those who supported Nixon at first. It was a conspiracy, don't you know?

Then came John Dean with info about the taping and Sen. Howard Baker with "What did the president know and when did he know it?"

I wonder if we have that kind of statesman today?

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:51 PM

23. Deepthroat.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:10 AM

28. Dumb as a brick

This is what happens when you listen to talk wing radio and watch Faux news everyday.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 09:55 PM

2. klan country nt

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 09:56 PM

3. At least...

...we know who some of the Quislings, are!

And we know that they are loyal to Trump and not to the United States, including that retired USAF Colonel.

On the plus side, once their Medicare and Social Security are adjusted as part of Ryan's wet dream...Marino, Noel, Guidry, Yates, and the chain smoking Gubert, will be leaving this mortal coil, much sooner!!!

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 09:57 PM

4. Well, I just learned the definition of : "DUMB ASSES" & they're all my age or older.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 09:58 PM

5. It is ALL about American voters inflicted with insanity

For THEM, there is no cure or hope.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 09:58 PM

6. These are people with no morals or ethics beyond

1. Being white and 2. Being Xian. Anything goes with these jerks as long as a white person says or does something and tosses in the name of Jeebus as justification.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:01 PM

7. I really can't believe this.

If it had been a Democrat, I am sure they would be singing a different tune.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:12 AM

30. Oh for sure they wouldn't be saying, what's the big deal...

They screeched about Emails for months, but Russia interference is no big deal, whatever it took...They'll be sorry soon enough, though I doibt they'll admit it out loud.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:31 PM

8. They hate Democrats more than they love their country.

Traitors.

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Response to neverforget (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:10 PM

20. +1

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:33 PM

9. What got me the most about this was,

as someone else pointed out, their age. These people lived through the cold war. Some lived through the McCarthy hearings. Russia was their sworn enemy for decades. Now, all of a sudden, they are our big buddies. I could maybe understand someone who has just reached voting age feeling this way (even though CRIMEA!), but Russian influence should resonate with the older generations.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:54 PM

14. Yes! Cuban Missle Crisis, anyone???

But Trump says let's be friendly with Russia, and the RW media echoes that, so these guys are A-OK with it.

Incredible.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:08 AM

26. Any friend of the enemy of their enemy, becomes their BFF.

They believe Trump actually intends to expel most Mexicans and Central Americans (and anyone else they dislike); Putin, in turn, put him in power.

That's all they know, and all they want to know.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:09 AM

27. they lived through times when non whites and women did not have equal rights and it mostly benefited

white men.

they had it good then and want it back.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:11 AM

29. Shitbag hypocrites.

The same thugs who villified liberals for years for being "soft".

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:39 PM

10. Stupid is as stupid does

these people who deny the FACTS are narrow minded and ignorant. FUCK THEM.

Our primary goal right now is to get back OUR COUNTRY. Wouldn't you ALL agree???

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:48 PM

12. And I should care what these stupid assholes think because...?

I especially love the shithead who's glad a foreign government basically chose our president for us. What a great American.

There's no hope for these people. They'll be ignorant and selfish until the day they die so we shouldn't waste time and resources trying to win their vote. Fuck them.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:49 PM

13. They envision a White Christian Empire stretching across the Northern Hemisphere

They want the U.S., Northern Europe and Russia to form a White Christian alliance to fight the brown Muslim hordes who they think are taking over the planet. Hell, they want to fight a crusade.

Why else does Drumph & Co. get all the love from the KKK and US-UK fascist groups? If anyone can stomach it, I urge them to take a look at any white nationalist website to really see what America's up against. It is unreal.

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Response to VOX (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:03 AM

24. There's a lot of truth right there; Christianity. The Guardian made the connection too.

A large cohort of Cold War conservatives did not oppose the godless communist dictatorships of the Soviet Union and its satellites because they were dictatorships but because they were godless. Russia may be a dictatorship again, but the atheist state has gone and it is a godly dictatorship now that Putin has embraced the Orthodox Christianity of the tsars. -- 5th paragraph - The Guardian

Conservatives were more opposed to the Russians when they were seen as godless. They're still a dictatorship, but now they embrace Christianity. Voila! Putin's seen as our friend, another white Christian on the block.

Russian treachery is extreme and it is everywhere - The Guardian
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028443010

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Response to ffr (Reply #24)

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:05 AM

25. Extreme right white wingtards love white fascist dictators.

It's about race.

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Response to VOX (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:49 AM

34. Those are the ties that bind right there.

It's all about White Supremacy this love affair with Putin and the rise of White Power in Europe.

Just when we thought we were turning the corner on this type of shit - Hillary loses.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:55 PM

15. no surprise....deplorables

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 10:55 PM

16. If anyone in our party had even a whiff of a Russian connection

 

They would be screaming their lungs out. There people consider themselves patriots, but they would sell our country to any foreign power that would help promote their insanity.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:00 PM

17. They are the Dem burden.

Our job is to beat them. There's no talking them out of their position. They are so angry that there is essentially no degree of self-sullying they won't engage in. Our voters didn't do their job in 2016. A bunch of us stayed home and let these simpletons have the voting booths.

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Response to gulliver (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:05 PM

19. The Democratic party should be focusing on younger voters.

These people interviewed are all over 60, they won't be sticking around for the next couple of election cycles. Younger voters tend to vote more liberally so we should be encouraging them to GOTV.

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Response to Initech (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:12 PM

21. I agree but I would go further than encouraging them.

They need to vote as a duty, not as an option. They are the future, and of course we need them. But they have an obligation to vote, not an option.

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Response to gulliver (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:42 PM

22. I think election day should be a national holiday.

And if I had my way, all laws restricting voting would be abolished. I think that's a huge part of the problem - too many restrictions on voting to make people think it's not worth it. And that's 150% a GOP created problem.

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Response to Initech (Reply #22)

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:56 AM

35. That and the fact that many haven't seen any efforts made on their behalf by Congress.

Even when they did vote. 40% just didn't even bother - most probably feeling it would make no difference. Never did before when they bothered.

That's my best guess anyway since I've never seen any studies, statistics concerning the demographics of this absent 40%.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:02 PM

18. No, they just want to see liberal tears.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:20 AM

31. Saw a guy on FB last night..

Posted a rant saying that the whole thing was a conspiracy hatched by Google in conjunction with the DNC and that all of this "hacking" business was a big lie to cast Trump in a bad light. You can't fix these people. They are "true believers" and will never believe anything other than the RW/RT spin. We could have video evidence of Trump sucking off Putin for votes and these fuckers would ignore it and scream "fake news". Sadly, I think many of us could have predicted this response when the "fake news" was a focus after the election. The GOP has no shame in twisting reality to fit their mission.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:38 AM

32. Maybe somebody ought to clue them in

on the number of abortions that are performed in Russia
2013 1,895,822 1,012,399 34.8


year live births abortions, reported abortion rate per thousand

How about we push that Putin is pro-choice. He's not, exactly, but what the heck. It worked for them.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:46 AM

33. Can't fix stupid, being closer to the grave is the only resolution....

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