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BigDemVoter

(4,530 posts)
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 05:41 PM Jan 2017

They are going to FUCK it UP which is GREAT news for us.

I've been at this for a long goddamned time. I'm old. I've been watching different administrations coming and going since JFK.

Never have I seen such discord and chaos amongst the KoolAid drinkers, and it's almost all because of the Orange Pig's Ass. He CANNOT stay on focus; he cannot stay off his goddamned Twitter account; he cannot focus on ANY type of unified message. He's treating our government like it's one of his fucking reality TV shows. . . . . "I may or may not make that decision by Tuesday?"--

I'm not saying we don't need to fight back, because these fuckers are dumb AND destructive. But IMHO, they are going to flail around and flail around and then end up pissing off their idiotic supporters. And it wouldn't take much to peel enough of them away to kick that asshole OUT.

These next four years will be ugly, but they would be far worse if the Repigs had somebody in office with some political savvy and some sense. Trump has neither other than an ability to whip up the Alt Right.

On edit-- I have to add that "Trump fatigue" will play a HUGE role in the next election. Let's not forget that this punk is a complete and total spoiled fucking idiot. The American public will be so goddamned tired of him by 2020. I think people really are sick of him right now except for the hard core fuck nuts who will get their payback soon enough with no health insurance.

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They are going to FUCK it UP which is GREAT news for us. (Original Post) BigDemVoter Jan 2017 OP
stupid assholes, they always overreach Skittles Jan 2017 #1
Of course they don't care about Americans nor the country bdamomma Jan 2017 #15
Carry on GOPers. Flail, Flail, Flail. Good term to describe their actions. Hoyt Jan 2017 #2
Get back to us AFTER your Social Security is CUT FreakinDJ Jan 2017 #3
great for us provided Moliere Jan 2017 #4
Yep! kcdoug1 Jan 2017 #5
I'm hoping for less than four years! ginnyinWI Jan 2017 #6
I worry about Pence. He is savvy in a destructive, super theocratic way. God help us all..n/t monmouth4 Jan 2017 #7
I share your concern. Different Drummer Jan 2017 #8
Hope away. Legitimate elections are not coming back Generic Brad Jan 2017 #10
I have the same fear Bettie Jan 2017 #11
We elected money instead of brainpower bucolic_frolic Jan 2017 #9
The main thing Jamaal510 Jan 2017 #12
Interesting you mentioned that, as I was wondering the same thing this morning! BigDemVoter Jan 2017 #13
A question for the history buffs: world wide wally Jan 2017 #14
We're in uncharted territory, and there's no historical precedent for any of it. Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #19
Thank you Crunchy Frog world wide wally Jan 2017 #20
A lot of us have had "Trump fatigue" for months already. GoCubsGo Jan 2017 #16
How did that work out edhopper Jan 2017 #17
It's almost as if he wants to get impeached. Initech Jan 2017 #18
if he is impeached, ginnyinWI Jan 2017 #21
in the meantime, lots of folks will be worse off. spanone Jan 2017 #22

Skittles

(158,649 posts)
1. stupid assholes, they always overreach
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 05:44 PM
Jan 2017

given too much power, they cannot help but show how incompetent they are and how they DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN

bdamomma

(66,279 posts)
15. Of course they don't care about Americans nor the country
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:08 PM
Jan 2017

it is all about power and money!! And they are treating us as idiots, when we have the biggest one tweeting all the time. God, this is disgusting but it is what it is we need to dig deep and fight back. Push back.

We cannot stay still on this one this affects us all, we need to unite. Pitchforks and Torches anyone???

Moliere

(285 posts)
4. great for us provided
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 05:52 PM
Jan 2017

1. they don't completely change how elections are won and votes are cast+counted. Autocrats don't like liberal democracies, so expect voting rights to be further gutted, DOJ to be neutered or directed away from fraud and corruption, propaganda (like a national news network aka fox) running 24/7 in perpetuity

2. they don't do so much damage that it will take more than 2 years to turn around. If we do make him a 1 term POTUS then the successor will need to show positive impact or we're all going to get whiplash from the back and forth of subsequent elections

kcdoug1

(222 posts)
5. Yep!
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 05:55 PM
Jan 2017

Republicans ALWAYS overplay their hand!
It will be a pleasure to watch them crash and burn. Our country will be damaged for many years to come, but this is the price we must pay for not actively participating in our government.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
6. I'm hoping for less than four years!
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 05:57 PM
Jan 2017

Really, this guy is so incompetent that I wouldn't be surprised if he resigns at some point, or is thrown out. If it is this bad already...!

Different Drummer

(8,497 posts)
8. I share your concern.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 07:49 PM
Jan 2017

It's bad enough he's a heartbeat from the Presidency. This country will be in real trouble if he ever becomes POTUS.

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
10. Hope away. Legitimate elections are not coming back
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 08:33 PM
Jan 2017

Hate to be pessimistic, but these a-holes are going to be vindictive and punitive towards anyone they don't like. They are collectively drunk with power and they will never, ever relinquish it. Like you, I hope for less than four years, but from what I am seeing so far I am expecting this to last long after I am dead and gone. Since two months ago, we are America in name only.

Bettie

(16,975 posts)
11. I have the same fear
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:11 PM
Jan 2017

that we are now one of those countries that have elections for show, but there is never any doubt of the outcome in any race, because it is all tied up nice and pretty with Dear Leader and his cohorts receiving 99.9% of the vote and anyone who disagrees disappearing.

bucolic_frolic

(46,835 posts)
9. We elected money instead of brainpower
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 07:53 PM
Jan 2017

trump is the consummate climber, Ayn Rand style, clawing and hacking
and conniving his way to the top.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
12. The main thing
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:35 PM
Jan 2017

that I'm worried about is that he'll say something that will provoke someone such as North Korea to attack us. As most of us are probably aware, NK has been testing out their long-range missiles. Living in CA, I'm worried they'll have something that can reach the West Coast.

Crunchy Frog

(26,939 posts)
19. We're in uncharted territory, and there's no historical precedent for any of it.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 01:34 AM
Jan 2017

Last edited Fri Jan 6, 2017, 11:18 PM - Edit history (1)

I'm not sure there are any historical precedents for any of this. That is, a stable, long term democracy, that has maintained, more or less, democratic, constitutional rule for over 200 years, falling into fascism during a long term period of, for the most part, peace and prosperity. Maybe Rome's transformation from a republic into an empire.

We've maintained, even if imperfectly, democratic and constitutional government through a civil war, through two global wars, through a decades long Cold War, through assassinations and major social upheavals. We've pulled ourselves back from the brink during the McCarthy era, and after all of that, we're now walking right into fascism, peacefully and voluntarily.

I believe that we've been heading in this direction for the past few decades, with the groundwork being done by some very clever and extremely wealthy people who have funded think tanks and created a massive propaganda infrastucture, and gradually transformed what had been a conservative party, into a radical RW fascist one, and propagandized millions of people into followers; and they have done this mostly under the radar of people who should have been paying attention. And as I said, what they have achieved is historically unprecedented.

Where we go from here is anybody's guess. Maybe we slip into a totalitarian dystopia that lasts for decades. Maybe there will be a civil war, and the country will break apart. Maybe we'll end up having WWIII, and there will be nothing left but the cockroaches. Or maybe we'll be able to pull ourselves out of it before it becomes irreversible.

The fact that the "leader" is an overgrown infant, and the fascist party is tripping over their shoelaces in their overreaching power grabs, before he even gets inaugurated, is the one thing that gives me any hope that this country might manage to pull itself out. If we had gotten a more "reasonable" and sane looking R president, they would have been able to maintain the facade of normalcy until it was too late. So maybe Trump getting in is really a blessing in disguise.

I honestly wish I was reading about this in a history book, rather than living through it.

I apologize for posting my late night mental meanderings, but hope that it makes at least a little bit of sense to anyone other than myself.

world wide wally

(21,827 posts)
20. Thank you Crunchy Frog
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 02:36 AM
Jan 2017

That was one of the more intelligent assessments I have seen.
I too hope for the best, but I see dark days ahead and it is pretty scarey to say the least. It's hard to imagine that we voted ourselves into this situation, but then again a coup is a coup is a coup.
Good luck to everyone out there and never EVER let them off the hook. Keep talking to people like the election hasn't happened yet. We can never get complacent.

GoCubsGo

(32,964 posts)
16. A lot of us have had "Trump fatigue" for months already.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:16 PM
Jan 2017

And, yeah. I agree that the GOP are going to fuck it up. With the failed attempt at gutting the independent ethics commission, they are off to a good start in that regard. I just hope they don't cause irreparable damage in the process.

Initech

(101,791 posts)
18. It's almost as if he wants to get impeached.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:26 PM
Jan 2017

And god help us if that happens, the GOP will unleash decades of blame-gaming, worse than what they did to Bill Clinton.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
21. if he is impeached,
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 11:23 AM
Jan 2017

the will of the people will be behind it. It will be so apparent to everyone that he has to go. Alternatively, he might find some excuse to resign, as Nixon did, to avoid worse. Then nobody could point very many fingers.

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