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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:16 PM Dec 2016

Russias ambassador to Turkey shot, some news reports say he has died.

Pulling this off Twitter..

Russian ambassador to Turkey shot at a photo exhibition ...The Seattle Times

RT says this is photo of apparent gunman: appears to be holding gun



Gunman shouted "We die in Aleppo, you die here," before shooting the Russian ambassador to Ankara, says BBC breaking news

Turkish police shot and killed the gunman, Turkish station NTV reported.

UPDATE:

Russian agency says ambassador in Turkey has died of his wounds after being shot:

https://t.co/Aso1oSQ2jv
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Russias ambassador to Turkey shot, some news reports say he has died. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Dec 2016 OP
response to hacking? HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #1
Response to Syria, and indiscriminate Russian bombing hatrack Dec 2016 #2
Don't worry. Trump is all over this. Yavin4 Dec 2016 #5
Of course, it will be called 'radical Islamic terrorism' by Russia and Trump Jeroen Dec 2016 #6
My first thought as well ghostsinthemachine Dec 2016 #3
No, of course not -nt Bradical79 Dec 2016 #15
! Raster Dec 2016 #4
So they took the killer's photo before shooting him? bluedigger Dec 2016 #7
The "they taking the photo" former9thward Dec 2016 #8
Ambassador was giving televised speech dixiegrrrrl Dec 2016 #10
I hope he isn't 2016's Archduke Franz Ferdinand. ret5hd Dec 2016 #9
Yes. My first thought also. marybourg Dec 2016 #11
This is just ISIS doing ISIS things dagnuguy Dec 2016 #12
Hmmm . . . happened in Turkey, gunman was a Turkish cop, but no, it does not involve Turkey . . . hatrack Dec 2016 #14
Not to worry. Igel Dec 2016 #13

hatrack

(59,574 posts)
2. Response to Syria, and indiscriminate Russian bombing
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:20 PM
Dec 2016

News reports quote the gunman as saying "We die in Aleppo, you die here".

Blowback sucks.

Jeroen

(1,061 posts)
6. Of course, it will be called 'radical Islamic terrorism' by Russia and Trump
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:27 PM
Dec 2016

I forsee Trump tweeting it within a few hours

bluedigger

(17,085 posts)
7. So they took the killer's photo before shooting him?
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:29 PM
Dec 2016

Doesn't look like much of a threat to me. I hope they cleaned up all the loose ends as well, because I wouldn't plan on Trump's NATO to pull Turkey's nuts out of the fire when Putin accuses them of being behind it.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. Ambassador was giving televised speech
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:09 PM
Dec 2016

so yeah, everything was caught on tape.
Gunman was Turkish policeman, is now dead.
Still conflicting reports on ambassador's death.

marybourg

(12,586 posts)
11. Yes. My first thought also.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:45 PM
Dec 2016

My second one was to be grateful there's still an adult in the WH. at least for a few more weeks.

 

dagnuguy

(20 posts)
12. This is just ISIS doing ISIS things
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:52 PM
Dec 2016

This does not involve Turkey. Plus, Turkey would destroy Russia's military. No worries of this turning into a world war. Putin will drop more bombs though.

hatrack

(59,574 posts)
14. Hmmm . . . happened in Turkey, gunman was a Turkish cop, but no, it does not involve Turkey . . .
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:32 PM
Dec 2016

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Igel

(35,274 posts)
13. Not to worry.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:21 PM
Dec 2016

Erdogan will use this for several things.

1. Finish purge. Increase control and restrictions. Somehow Gulen or the Kurds or Islamists that oppose him will come into play--perhaps all 3, depending on the context he needs support for.

2. Close ranks with Russia against "terrorists," both domestic and in Syria/Iraq.

That doesn't mean approving of Assad. But stability is more important than freedom, and with Eurasianist thought Turkey's more like Russia than Greece or Germany is, and that will prove common ground for Turkey's ability to ignore Assad. It's not a stable arrangement, but it'll do for now.

Erdogan's in a tough position if he uses it to oppose Russia. It's unlikely he's behind the shooting; and if he doesn't side with Russia it'll be bad. He'll bill it as showing strength and independence, but he's well open to Russian bullying and being too proud to admit it. Such is the price of public honor.

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