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gordianot

(15,232 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:49 PM Dec 2016

With the Billions spent on intelligence how could the intelligence community miss Donald Trump?

The NSA records foreign phone calls, American intelligence spy's on Russia and Putin a former KGB officer running a super power with missiles pointed at the United States. Donald Trump a well known con man billionaire, who does not pay taxes with questionable income and clear ties to Russia runs for President and has the audacity to publicly ask Russia to spy on his American opponent a former Secretary of State. Trump also hires known Russian proxies.

Just how is it possible he has not been investigated by the most sophisticated best funded intelligence law enforcement agencies known to exist? This has to be in all human history the most public obvious betrayal ever recorded.

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rzemanfl

(29,554 posts)
1. Who is to say they don't have it all? Phone calls, email, funds transfers, the works.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:54 PM
Dec 2016

What to do with it, how and when. That may be what is being considered now. That and who can be trusted and who can't.

gordianot

(15,232 posts)
2. So far the only defense I have heard is there is not enough information.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:00 PM
Dec 2016

Of course that information has not been publicly released.

 
4. Trump has a lot of money and Russia does too
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:09 PM
Dec 2016

Becoming a presidential candidate provided an umbrella against scrutiny since Obama would look guilty of subverting political opponents barring any leaks.

gordianot

(15,232 posts)
6. There was a time I would have disagreed it was possible.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:19 PM
Dec 2016

In the last couple weeks that is a possibility.

jalan48

(13,839 posts)
9. I wouldn't doubt it-he's an oligarch, Putin's an oligarch. These are the folks with the power.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:26 PM
Dec 2016

Democracy is for show.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
11. They didn't miss it. They can't tell you that they didn't miss it.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:00 PM
Dec 2016

It's--what's the word?--a secret. The way they generate their information is an important secret. They don't want to leak information because it's totally illegal in a hundred different ways, because the information itself can reveal the way the information is generated.

Nevertheless, when it's really important, they try hard to get the word out, and the Washington Post and the Voice of America have been telling all of you, since the summer, that something was seriously wrong. President Obama told all of you that something was seriously wrong with Donald Trump. People posted those articles here. People like me told you what it meant.

So who missed it? You guys did.

gordianot

(15,232 posts)
13. I didn't miss it, the GOP has been cozying up to Putin for sometime.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:16 PM
Dec 2016

Republicans own Trump and all his problems. Disinformation and the lazy M$M did not help. Trump deserved the political informational equivalent of a drone strike months ago. Republicans should have cleaned their own house but chose to largely ignore what was happening.

Retrograde

(10,128 posts)
14. And the media would have ignored it anyway
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:21 PM
Dec 2016

It's not like there was a shortage of negatives for Trump: dubious business practices, numerous bankruptcies, cozying up to Putin, putting himself and his businesses first, stiffing suppliers, non-payment of federal income taxes (as Clinton brought up several times), and in general not doing anything that didn't put money in his own pockets. Oh, and the total lack of prior interest in politics and public service.

mopinko

(69,984 posts)
15. which is what made him the perfect candidate.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 12:32 AM
Dec 2016

he was his own smoke screen.
he reminds me of the parade of weirdos from which the gropenator was chosen. like that was some accident.

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