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I predict the Reichstag Fire is going to be in California. (Original Post) byronius Dec 2016 OP
Don't give them any fucking ideas! YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #1
Sounds like a threat to me. nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2016 #2
You can bet that FEMA will be nowhere to be found lapfog_1 Dec 2016 #3
That's no surprise. The GOP hates disaster-relief, unless their very own state is affected. DetlefK Dec 2016 #4
Nah! TexasProgresive Dec 2016 #5
Or one of his hundred other named properties around the world NightWatcher Dec 2016 #10
California isn't a great choice - everything is too spread out. el_bryanto Dec 2016 #6
The Bay Area's pretty dense Retrograde Dec 2016 #12
This comment is in egregiously bad taste, two days after an actual deadly fire in California Bucky Dec 2016 #7
No kidding nini Dec 2016 #9
+100. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2016 #11
I'm quite commonly decent. I'm also familiar with Standard Authoritarian Practice. byronius Dec 2016 #14
yeah, I do too. Stick to your figurative guns ProfessorPlum Dec 2016 #15
Part of me is hoping to derail this choice by mentioning it as an obvious target. byronius Dec 2016 #16
It will be at a Trump property ghostsinthemachine Dec 2016 #8
Which he can control. woodsprite Dec 2016 #13
It probably won't be a fire but it WILL be in a liberal area jmowreader Dec 2016 #17
It will be in a conservative area, with a lot of soft targets--blamed on some disadvantaged class. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #18
bingo dembotoz Dec 2016 #19
The goal is to lead to the forfeiture of weapons amongst that class, so they are defenseless. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #20

TexasProgresive

(12,273 posts)
5. Nah!
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:24 AM
Dec 2016

It'll be "Rump Tower while Melania and scion are our on a play date. That would have similar propaganda power as the Reichstag fire and the WTC collapse. Just my take.

NightWatcher

(39,356 posts)
10. Or one of his hundred other named properties around the world
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:44 AM
Dec 2016

He'll blame Islamic fundies and start rounding them up here and bombing them there.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
6. California isn't a great choice - everything is too spread out.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:25 AM
Dec 2016

I would say New York or Chicago might better choices.

But actually if the goal is to get a bunch of Trump Supporters together to destroy a building and put the fear of Trump into liberals - well - you need three things.

1. you have to have a good building to destroy (something symbolic)
2. you have to have a bunch of trump supporting hot-heads to do the act (and provide plausible deniability if it goes south)
3. you need a readymade victim class to blame it on.

Maybe actually a big southern city might be a better choice - Atlanta or New Orleans or Orlando? Or possibly something in Texas?

I don't know - maybe it's best not to talk too much about this theory.

Bryant

Retrograde

(10,608 posts)
12. The Bay Area's pretty dense
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:00 PM
Dec 2016

We saw after Loma Prieta what happens when a major public transportation system is damaged - and there are a lot more people here now then there were in 1989.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
7. This comment is in egregiously bad taste, two days after an actual deadly fire in California
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:28 AM
Dec 2016

I value DU as a forum for free debate. But free debate does not include freedom from common decency.

byronius

(7,593 posts)
14. I'm quite commonly decent. I'm also familiar with Standard Authoritarian Practice.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:14 PM
Dec 2016

Are you suggesting that Trump and his followers are decent people who would never commit such a crime?

I think it's axiomatic. And if you're familiar with the intricacies of the Weimar Republic and it's demise (as I am), the parallels are quite perfect. If they do not commit such an act to corral the remainder of the weak-minded and silence the intelligent opposition, it will not be for lack of planning, motive, or opportunity.

Really, let's not be naïve. This is It. It has come to America. The form of Silencing Of Dissent may be new and different somehow, but the act will have the same effect as the Reichstag Fire.

They hate California. We are about to be attacked in a thousand different ways. They intend to crush our spirit and our economy. I'm sorry you think such words are in bad taste. I believe them to be true.

ProfessorPlum

(11,337 posts)
15. yeah, I do too. Stick to your figurative guns
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:36 PM
Dec 2016

because this kind of game theory scenario allows us to recognize what is actually happening in the real event, while everyone else loses their head.

byronius

(7,593 posts)
16. Part of me is hoping to derail this choice by mentioning it as an obvious target.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:58 PM
Dec 2016

They read this board. Maybe they'll pick someplace else.

Silly and paranoid.

Or not.

jmowreader

(51,372 posts)
17. It probably won't be a fire but it WILL be in a liberal area
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:41 PM
Dec 2016

The three things Trump hates most are Muslims, Mexicans and liberals. So...if he can get something blown up in a liberal area and blame it on "Muslim terrorists" or "illegal Mexican immigrants" (or better, a coalition of the two) abetted by "soft-on-terrorism liberals" he can go after both groups with impunity.

TheBlackAdder

(28,863 posts)
18. It will be in a conservative area, with a lot of soft targets--blamed on some disadvantaged class.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:47 PM
Dec 2016

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If it was in a liberal area, that might garnish sympathy... now, if it's a widespread riot that would be different.


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TheBlackAdder

(28,863 posts)
20. The goal is to lead to the forfeiture of weapons amongst that class, so they are defenseless.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:56 PM
Dec 2016

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Authoritarians are the ones who seize weapons. The weapons of their perceived "enemies" or factious groups.

But, like all good Hitlerians, they want to take them from selective groups.


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