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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:23 AM Jun 2012

What 3 major things would you change, if you could, about America ?

You are like JFK in 1960, you have the bully pulpit and popular support -- you can set the agenda, champion your causes and challenge this country to do better...

What are 3 things you would change?

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What 3 major things would you change, if you could, about America ? (Original Post) KurtNYC Jun 2012 OP
Hmm ananda Jun 2012 #1
National Health Plan. Progressive taxation like in the 1950's. raccoon Jun 2012 #2
That 1950s thing is a myth ag_dude Jun 2012 #10
Please enlighten us. Why would tax receipts drop? sinkingfeeling Jun 2012 #14
And just how would you explain that? EOTE Jun 2012 #16
Taxes paid is a function of TWO numbers - tax rate AND taxable income joeglow3 Jun 2012 #39
So you're saying that per-capita, government income from taxes was lower then than it is now? EOTE Jun 2012 #42
I am guessing it is much closer to the 35% we have today than 90% joeglow3 Jun 2012 #45
People can make millions TODAY and still pay nothing in taxes due to deductions. EOTE Jun 2012 #47
What is your basis for that claim? joeglow3 Jun 2012 #54
Here you go: EOTE Jun 2012 #55
That article summed up my expectations perfectly joeglow3 Jun 2012 #63
The article does not say that at all. EOTE Jun 2012 #65
So, you prefer inefficiency so you can "feel better" joeglow3 Jun 2012 #66
No, not at all. You're twisting my words. EOTE Jun 2012 #67
Fair enough joeglow3 Jun 2012 #68
1950s, WITHOUT the loopholes? FrodosPet Jun 2012 #40
Couple of issues. EOTE Jun 2012 #44
If you mean as a leader of the country who could get what I wanted without challenge? SoutherDem Jun 2012 #3
I would push for the Great Society Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #4
single payor, emphasis on research and science, reducing the need for oil, coal and natural gas Marrah_G Jun 2012 #5
Fix the tax system 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #6
Three Big ones IMHO swayne Jun 2012 #7
Serious, well-funded antitrust actions hifiguy Jun 2012 #8
I totally agree with your first and third choices. surrealAmerican Jun 2012 #12
I'm with you. This is a hard question because there is so many issues to address. jwirr Jun 2012 #36
Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush The Idiot would never have been elected NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #9
Only 3 things? IndyPragmatist123 Jun 2012 #11
Mine.... if I could: femmocrat Jun 2012 #13
Initiate public financing of campaigns, universal healthcare, kill the military industrial complex Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #15
I vote for your plan. :^) (But I would go further with the election reforms.) GreenPartyVoter Jun 2012 #23
I would too, but I guess I was trying to summarize. Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #26
Indeed! All good stuff. I do wish we had a top 5, because we didn't get a shot at GreenPartyVoter Jun 2012 #28
You said peters out. deaniac21 Jun 2012 #29
Nice post, Beavis. Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #30
Uh, huh huh huh... deaniac21 Jun 2012 #62
Eliminate state governments, eliminate the US Senate, replace the Pres with a Prime Minister. FarCenter Jun 2012 #17
Be sure to build your death star first, 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #22
Single payer, alternative energies, constitutional amendment banning corporate personhood Auggie Jun 2012 #18
Ditto ditto ditto. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #51
Progressive tax system, universal health care, serious defunding of the Pentasewer. HughBeaumont Jun 2012 #19
+1 Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #31
My three are: RC Jun 2012 #20
Get rid of the extreme rignt and the extreme left. Make them irrelevant. demosincebirth Jun 2012 #21
The left already is irrelevent - as evidenced by the deportations TBF Jun 2012 #33
R-wingers are at their peak now. On this board, far lefties are pretty abundant demosincebirth Jun 2012 #46
Define "far leftie" - TBF Jun 2012 #50
Oposite of "far right" maybe? demosincebirth Jun 2012 #56
lol - ok thanks. Now I know you have no idea. nt TBF Jun 2012 #57
Outsourcing, corporate "personhood", and the military industrial complex. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #24
1. Three words: equal rights amendment Initech Jun 2012 #25
First would be COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY in the Federal Government hahahareally Jun 2012 #27
Nationalize Banks, Health Care, and the Energy Industry TBF Jun 2012 #32
Change it's government to a multi-party parliamentary democracy. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #34
My choices Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #35
Tax the rich. Feed the poor. Campaign finance reform. Iggo Jun 2012 #37
Massively increase public transpiration. LanternWaste Jun 2012 #38
WPA-style programs! Spike89 Jun 2012 #41
Establish Socialism, Government Health Care and end the drug war Taverner Jun 2012 #43
Assuming I had a Congress that would do my bidding: coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #48
North American Union RB TexLa Jun 2012 #49
Really? Why? n/t MicaelS Jun 2012 #78
Make organizing unions easier (legally), public funding of campaigns, universal health care. nt TeamsterDem Jun 2012 #52
Health care for all peacefreak Jun 2012 #53
How major are we talking? Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #58
Interesting question. white_wolf Jun 2012 #59
Real campaign finance reform, term limits and health care for all. eom Autumn Jun 2012 #60
Use my intelligence agency to destroy the GOP and moderate Dems... Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #61
#1 Repeal Corporate Personhood.. MicaelS Jun 2012 #64
#2 and #3 are good, but your #1 would allow the police to search the offices Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #70
The whole problem with the LLC concept is the Limited Liability part. MicaelS Jun 2012 #71
Officers going to prison? That already happens. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #74
In order libtodeath Jun 2012 #69
Medicare for all, Medicare for all, Medicare for all. n/t cynatnite Jun 2012 #72
Equal, top notch education for all, ecstatic Jun 2012 #73
Still waiting: "They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks." nt Romulox Jun 2012 #75
1) a comprehensive push for improved quality of life through a combination of KurtNYC Jun 2012 #76
To the Moon Alice! One_Life_To_Give Jun 2012 #77

ag_dude

(562 posts)
10. That 1950s thing is a myth
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:45 AM
Jun 2012

...fed by the lack of understanding of the entire tax code in place at that time.

The federal income tax reciepts would drop as a percentage of GDP if we switched to the entire tax structure that was in place in the 1950s.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
16. And just how would you explain that?
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:24 AM
Jun 2012

The widely discredited Laffer Curve? The tax code was far more progressive back then (that is an undisputed fact). The very wealthy have been having it far too easy for far too long. If they went back to paying their fair share, the government would have far more money coming in. Hell, even letting the Bush tax codes expire would bring in tons of revenue.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
39. Taxes paid is a function of TWO numbers - tax rate AND taxable income
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 04:03 PM
Jun 2012

In 1950, there were deductions up your, mine and everyone else's ass. You could have millions in income and show zero in taxable income. Multiple that by a 90% tax rate and guess what your tax rate on your overall income is. Many of those deductions went away when the tax code was re-written in 1986, resulting in tax rates going down.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
42. So you're saying that per-capita, government income from taxes was lower then than it is now?
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 05:12 PM
Jun 2012

Adjusted for inflation, of course. I find that rather hard to believe, especially considering how incredibly easy the wealthy have it now in terms of taxes.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
45. I am guessing it is much closer to the 35% we have today than 90%
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 05:22 PM
Jun 2012

Honestly, I am not disagreeing with the sentiment. Just the tax CPA in me hates it when people use misinformation about my speciality.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
47. People can make millions TODAY and still pay nothing in taxes due to deductions.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 06:49 PM
Jun 2012

But the top tax rate in the 50s was substantially higher than it is now. I find it hard to believe that the top 1% had it so much better then than they do now, especially with Bush's tax cuts in effect.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
54. What is your basis for that claim?
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:38 AM
Jun 2012

As a tax CPA who spent 10 years in Big 4 firms doing high income tax returns, I never once saw that.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
63. That article summed up my expectations perfectly
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:32 AM
Jun 2012

The most are getting their income from tax exempt bonds. Have you ever entered the market for a tax exempt bond? They pay less that a taxable bond...by about the tax rate. Thus, they ARE taking a hit against their income to the tune of the income tax rate. Difference is that instead of paying the taxes to the Federal government who will redistribute it, they are paying it directly to a municipality through lower interest expense for said local government. Guess what those fund are almost always used for - infrastructure investment (leading to working class jobs). I have said it before and will say it again - people need to do REAL investigation before getting angry about something and forming an opinion. There are LOTS of people who will prey on people's laziness to get them to support their cause.

Again, I am not disagreeing with your general sentiment. I just hate it when people rely on half-truths, misleading information and/or flat out lies to further their cause.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
65. The article does not say that at all.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:59 AM
Jun 2012

It says that some of those thousands paid no income tax due to tax tricks and some of them due to investments. It doesn't provide anything close to a breakdown. So if millionaires are able to pay no taxes today due to tricks, just as they were able to in the 50s, I'd like to start with a fairly higher top rate and then go about closing the loopholes that prevent that allows so many millionaires to pay no income tax. I feel the country needs both a more progressive tax structure as well as a closing of the many loopholes.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
66. So, you prefer inefficiency so you can "feel better"
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:33 AM
Jun 2012

Our local governments still do not have enough money for infrastructure, even with all the money they are able to get through the federal government's subsidization of their bonds. Your decision is to do away with that, have the Federal government collect the additional taxes, incur all the added administrative costs and then distribute 50 cents on the dollar back to the local governments for infrastructure and local job creation. Essentially, you just created a worse job market so you can feel better. Again, people need to do more research than read a single article.

Oh, and you are right, I did forget about those who, after all limitations on the deductibility of medical costs, still incurred enough medical costs to wipe out all their income (meaning they incurred medical costs WELL IN EXCESS of their income). Again, we are talking about a fraction of a fraction here and I am not too concered with those whose tax planning means getting sick as shit to the tune of needing to spend in excess of a million dollars in medical care.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
67. No, not at all. You're twisting my words.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:56 AM
Jun 2012

I don't think that local investments should be discouraged at all. I think that top tax rates should be raised so that MORE money can go to the federal and local governments.

You had originally asked for proof that there are millionaires NOW who are paying nothing in terms of income taxes, you seemed incredulous at the claim. I then provided that information and you said that the link only confirmed what you believed. I'm sorry, I don't buy that, you implied that that really doesn't happen in this day and age. Because there were those both then and now who game the system to get off of paying their fair share, I believe that both the top rates should be increased and extended to higher income levels AND we need to remove loopholes to prevent the wealthy from paying their fair share. Nothing I have suggested will cut down on funding for infrastructure in the least. It would provide far more money toward infrastructure. I never once suggested that deductions should be removed for infrastructure investments.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
68. Fair enough
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 12:07 PM
Jun 2012

I was aware of the rare types of cases, but was thinking you were saying there was wholesale abuse similar to what we say 30-40 years ago (leading to the creation of the AMT).

I agree tax rates need to increase (especially inheritance tax).

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
40. 1950s, WITHOUT the loopholes?
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 04:14 PM
Jun 2012

Growing up in the 60s and 70s, I kept hearing about tax shelters and how many millionaires never paid taxes because of them.

So would we have a 91% top margin that actually means someone making a million $ a year only takes home $99,000?

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
44. Couple of issues.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 05:15 PM
Jun 2012

First off, we're talking about a top tax rate, so only income above that rate would be taxed at that rate. So your example of 99k take home of 1,000,000 would only apply if that tax rate started at 0$, which it wouldn't. Secondly, if we were to adopt such a tax code (bloody unlikely in today's day and age), it would most likely kick in at somewhere around a billion, so that would mean that a hypothetical earner would bring home 90 million of every billion he/she made after the cutoff point.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
3. If you mean as a leader of the country who could get what I wanted without challenge?
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:33 AM
Jun 2012

1. Single payer health care for all
2. Fair campaign rules where corporations are not people.
3. Regulations which protects the poor rather than the rich.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
6. Fix the tax system
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:43 AM
Jun 2012

work to eliminate deficit spending.

Commit to increasing our budget for education and research every year by more than simply inflation/population size.

 

swayne

(383 posts)
7. Three Big ones IMHO
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:43 AM
Jun 2012

1. Racists (eliminating the drag this continues to be on this society) the Limbaugh, the Hannitys, the Coulters etc...

2. Taxes (make sure the rich pays their stated rate instead of a half or third of it)

3. HealthCare for All

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
8. Serious, well-funded antitrust actions
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jun 2012

against the telecoms, banksters, pharma and insurance companies. Smash them to atoms with the unenforced laws that are still on the books.

Amend the Constitution to state that Constitutional rights extend only to human beings, not legal fictions like corporations.

Single payer national health care.

surrealAmerican

(11,358 posts)
12. I totally agree with your first and third choices.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:19 AM
Jun 2012

Corporations would have far less power if they were not allowed to take over their markets.

My middle choice would be a means to insure fair, verifiable elections without disenfranchising people.

11. Only 3 things?
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:48 AM
Jun 2012

1. I would increase involvement and influence in politics at the local and state levels. I would strive for a political system like Switzerland, where the executive is rotated between regional leaders. This would allow for more reactive and responsible politics. People in New York and California can have strong democratic policies, while South Carolina can have their right-wing policies.

2. I would eliminate all private financing of elections. Everyone running for office should be on an equal playing field. If candidates feel they need to raise more money, thats fine. However, they have to split that with ALL candidates on the ballot.

3. (I have no idea how this would be realistically accomplished) I would eliminate the idea of "American exceptionalism." I feel like a lot of people don't care enough about policy because they think "we are America, we will be okay. We are special." This is why so many people are fine with our massive debt, because they think that America is different from Greece, Ireland or Japan. We need to realize that we can fall from grace if we don't enact more common sense policy.

I could go on and on, but I think these would be very important to helping get our country back on path.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
13. Mine.... if I could:
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:22 AM
Jun 2012

1. Fully fund public education instead of the war machine and restore respect for public schools and their employees.

2. Single-payer health care for all. It would really un-clog the employment situation because many people cannot leave their jobs because of health care benefits. Think of all the younger workers who could find jobs if the baby-boomers could retire!

3. Mandatory spay/neuter laws and increased availability of affordable veterinary services.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
15. Initiate public financing of campaigns, universal healthcare, kill the military industrial complex
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:24 AM
Jun 2012

Oh, and in my fantasy, religion just peters out and goes away completely.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
26. I would too, but I guess I was trying to summarize.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:26 PM
Jun 2012

Also -- I'd reinstate the measures that kept the media somewhat "fair."

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
28. Indeed! All good stuff. I do wish we had a top 5, because we didn't get a shot at
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 01:18 PM
Jun 2012

cleaning up wall street, or "universal education." (Or cleaner greener energy. Man, I think we need a top 100!)

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
19. Progressive tax system, universal health care, serious defunding of the Pentasewer.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jun 2012

Put money in the hands of people who spend it, not people who collect it like miniatures. You're not taking a billion dollars with you when you die.

It's absolutely ridiculous that this nation is chock full of fuckers who think health is a privilege and not a Human RIGHT. GROW up.

No more billion-dollar toys for the War Machine that does nothing but serve as a corporate police force that attacks sovereign nations for no reason whatsoever.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
20. My three are:
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:45 AM
Jun 2012

1 Revoke Citizen United.

2 Outlaw the election fraud enabling electronic voting machines

3 Single Payer, Universal Health Care

4 Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act

5 Sane drug laws

6 Let the bu$h tax cuts expire

7 Stop our wars of aggression

8 Go after the Military Industrial Complex


So I can't count. My list is really much longer than this.

TBF

(32,017 posts)
33. The left already is irrelevent - as evidenced by the deportations
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:50 PM
Jun 2012

courtesy of Palmer and McCarthy.

Besides the 2-party system already weakens anyone on either end.

Initech

(100,043 posts)
25. 1. Three words: equal rights amendment
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:24 PM
Jun 2012

2. Break up media monopolies

3. Establish a legal living wage, end corporate outsourcing, close tax loopholes, and bring manufacturing back to America.

 

hahahareally

(22 posts)
27. First would be COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY in the Federal Government
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:28 PM
Jun 2012

second would be fairer election/campaign laws

third would be to legalize marijuana

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
34. Change it's government to a multi-party parliamentary democracy.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:52 PM
Jun 2012

Or, even better, a Demarchy.

Demarchy is a term coined by Australian philosopher John Burnheim to describe a political system without the state or bureaucracies, and based instead on randomly selected groups of decision makers. These groups, sometimes termed "policy juries", "citizens' juries", or "Consensus Conferences", would deliberate and make decisions about public policies in much the same way that juries reach verdicts on criminal cases.

Demarchy attempts to overcome some of the functional problems with conventional representative democracies, which in practice have often been subject to manipulation by special interests and a divide between professional policymakers (politicians and lobbyists) vs. a largely passive, uninvolved and often uninformed electorate. According to Burnheim, random selection of policymakers would make it easier for everyday citizens to meaningfully participate, and harder for special interests to corrupt the process.

More generally, random selection of decision makers is known as sortition. The Athenian democracy made much use of sortition, with nearly all government offices filled by lottery rather than by election.

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
35. My choices
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:56 PM
Jun 2012

1) Shut down and remove Department of Defense from Cabinet position, ending ALL wars anywhere in the world that the US is involved in. Homeland Security takes over what is left of DoD and its main job is to defend the U.S. from terrorism. Use the tools
that the Patroit Act granted us. Also modify the PA to remove any DoD's involvement or funds.

2) Legalize, regulate, and grow marijuana and hemp. Hemp is a major cash crop for many states, and revenue would be very easy.

3) Revoke Citizens United, place the 1% under mandatory tax rate of 95% of anything over $2 million until the deficit is gone.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
38. Massively increase public transpiration.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 04:01 PM
Jun 2012

Massively increase public transpiration.

A re-birth of Roosevelt's WPA (and, well.. most of his alphabet soup agencies)

72% reduction in military spending.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
41. WPA-style programs!
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 04:30 PM
Jun 2012

I'd institutionalize those programs, maybe even to the point of semi-required service to society--sort of a draft. I'd also expand it to include much more than just raw physical labor/grunt work. Virtually every job skill would be available and it would serve as an apprenticeship program, infrastructure and operations department, and emergency job bank. The pay would be at least family-wage, and always open (i.e., get laid off from your private job--grab one of these while you look for another if you want).

I'd totally nationalize medicine.

Not just free K-12 education, I'd pay students to attend college (perhaps deferring their semi-required service). So, when some students leave high school and spend the next 4 years learning a trade/skill in the WPA-like program, others may go to college and get comparable pay, but then put those college skills/knowledge to work for society at a "less-than-going-rate" for 4 years. For instance, a doctor might graduate not only without debt, but with some net worth, but rather than getting big bucks right away, they'd get a living wage for the next four years as a payback to society.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
48. Assuming I had a Congress that would do my bidding:
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 06:54 PM
Jun 2012

1) Universal single-payer healthcare
2) Guaranteed annual income for all citizens and permanent residents
3) Government-funded daycare for children from 0-5

and, if I might,

4) Raise taxes on the wealthy and on capital. Cut taxes on labor
5) Prosecute Bush, Cheney and the entire Junta for crimes against humanity and war crimes.

See why I'm only a tepid supporter of Obama?

peacefreak

(2,939 posts)
53. Health care for all
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:39 PM
Jun 2012

8 year term limits for all--no exceptions
90 day election cycle with NO money from PACS.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
58. How major are we talking?
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 08:32 PM
Jun 2012

big change: Constitutional convention, replace the presidential system with a parliamentary system. Seats alloted by proportional representation, mandatory voting. Which is probably three, right there, but a lot of stuff would follow from those.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
59. Interesting question.
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 08:44 PM
Jun 2012

For starters I'd abolish capitalism and reform the economy along a syndicalist model. However, within the framework of capitalism, I would do three things while maintaining our current market economy since I assume that's what the OP means.

1. I would replace our Presidential system with a Parliamentary system of Proportional Representation.

2. All major industries necessary to the common good would be nationalized, ie. healthcare, energy, banks, etc.

3. Dismantle the MIC. All troops would be withdrawn, the majority of our military bases would be closed. In order to prevent further unnecessary wars and to prevent the return of the MIC, I would require that all military action, that takes place outside of the United States, be subject to a national vote by the electorate. No more "police actions" or drone strikes.

 

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
61. Use my intelligence agency to destroy the GOP and moderate Dems...
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 08:54 PM
Jun 2012

Then appoint the most far left people I could find to my administration.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
64. #1 Repeal Corporate Personhood..
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:39 AM
Jun 2012
#1 Repeal Corporate Personhood. This puts Corporations firmly under Legislative
control, which is where is should be.

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/political_reform/proposed_constitutional_amendments.html

An Amendment to Preclude Corporations from Claiming Bill of Rights Protections

SECTION 1. The U.S. Constitution protects only the rights of living human beings.

SECTION 2. Corporations and other institutions granted the privilege to exist shall be subordinate to any and all laws enacted by citizens and their elected governments.

SECTION 3. Corporations and other for-profit institutions are prohibited from attempting to influence the outcome of elections, legislation or government policy through the use of aggregate resources or by rewarding or repaying employees or directors to exert such influence.

SECTION 4. Congress shall have power to implement this article by appropriate legislation.


#2 Single Payer National Health Care.

#3 Progressive Income Tax. Streamline Tax Code, and eliminate many deductions.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
70. #2 and #3 are good, but your #1 would allow the police to search the offices
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jun 2012

of DemocraticUnderground LLC without giving a reason, and would allow the assets of DemocraticUnderground LLC to be confiscated, without compensation.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
71. The whole problem with the LLC concept is the Limited Liability part.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jun 2012

If Corporations want the same rights as living beings, then they need to be willing to accept the same responsibilities and risks. That means no more Limited Liability. A Corporation screws up, causes damages, or kills people, then the officers of that Corporations should be on trial for any crime an individual could be tried for, including homicide. They get found guilty, the Corporations assets can be seized just like that of a person. The officers can go to prison or even face the Death Penalty.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
74. Officers going to prison? That already happens.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 02:28 PM
Jun 2012

See Jeff Skilling and Andy Fastow.

Limited Liability means that if you own stock in IBM, you cannot be sued personally for something IBM does.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
69. In order
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jun 2012

1) End capitalism,it is broken and inherently unfair.

2) Confiscate all the wealth that has been stolen by the 1% over the last 30 years and use it to put people to work repairing/rebuilding infrastructure and providing health care to all.

3) Reduce the military to only what is needed to defend our borders instead of trying to be the bully of the world.

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
73. Equal, top notch education for all,
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 02:06 PM
Jun 2012

healthcare for all, and, if possible, I'd try to mend racial tensions that lead to incidents like the killing of Trayvon Martin.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
75. Still waiting: "They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks." nt
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 02:30 PM
Jun 2012

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
76. 1) a comprehensive push for improved quality of life through a combination of
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 02:35 PM
Jun 2012

single payer health care, education and arts programs. Goal: Improved quality of life at every income level

2) transition to a planned economy which aligns production with demand, and employs a greater percentage of people in more meaningful jobs. Goal: to have a 35 hours work week at wages that will support a family -- more time off to parent and enjoy this lifetime

3) fund forward looking science in areas of alternative energies, water desalinization and purification, hydroponic and aquaponic food production, cancer prevention and treatment, and taking a pro-active stance in dealing with the effect of climate change

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
77. To the Moon Alice!
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jun 2012

Would have never stopped going. Too infinity and beyond, Second star to the right and straight on till morning. Thunderbirds are go!

Be illegal to manage anything without a complete and total mastery of all the sub-functions. Can't lead a power company unless you can do every job at the powerplant/reactor as well as lineperson etc. Hospitals run by doctors etc.

Too big to fail is to big to exist. Breakup all of the supposed too big to fail companies.

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