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Sun Nov 27, 2016, 05:44 PM

Water has subtle properties beyond the claims of Big Pharma propaganda

In an effort to stomp out competition from natural remedies that Multinational Pharmaceutical companies feel would cut into their unchecked drug profiteering, many agents circulate narrow, outdated speculations about water and its subtle properties. Water has many properties that the limited perspective of Drug Companies has yet to acknowledge.

"Neutron scattering and computational modeling have revealed unique and unexpected behavior of water molecules under extreme confinement that is unmatched by any known gas, liquid or solid states.

"In a paper published in Physical Review Letters, researchers at the Department of Energy's Oak Ridge National Laboratory describe a new tunneling state of water molecules confined in hexagonal ultra-small channels - 5 angstrom across - of the mineral beryl. An angstrom is 1/10-billionth of a meter, and individual atoms are typically about 1 angstrom in diameter...

"The discovery... demonstrates features of water under ultra confinement in rocks, soil and cell walls, which scientists predict will be of interest across many disciplines.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2016-04-state-molecule.html#jCp

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Reply Water has subtle properties beyond the claims of Big Pharma propaganda (Original post)
Achilleaze Nov 2016 OP
etherealtruth Nov 2016 #1
DavidDvorkin Nov 2016 #2
HassleCat Nov 2016 #3
COLGATE4 Nov 2016 #4
etherealtruth Nov 2016 #5
Bradical79 Nov 2016 #6
marybourg Nov 2016 #9
FarCenter Nov 2016 #7
SidDithers Nov 2016 #8
bhikkhu Nov 2016 #10
MineralMan Nov 2016 #11
longship Nov 2016 #12
RobinA Nov 2016 #13
eppur_se_muova Nov 2016 #14

Response to Achilleaze (Original post)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 06:07 PM

1. I don't have a PhD in physics (or in any discipline)

I am very curious regarding your interpretation and its relation to pharmacology (I could visualize the eventual development of new delivery systems). Perhaps you can share your insights into the significance, especially as it relates to homeopathy or other treatments.

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Response to Achilleaze (Original post)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 06:11 PM

2. Your introductory paragraph has nothing to do with the article.

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Response to Achilleaze (Original post)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 06:24 PM

3. Homeopathy is not subtle

 

As scams go, it's pretty obvious.

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Response to Achilleaze (Original post)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 06:54 PM

4. Might be useful when the Homeopathy scammers begin

to sell their product contained in rocks. But, until then...

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:00 PM

5. Please do not give them any marketing ideas

I am still interested on what the OP based their introductory paragraph on? I would be interested in their explanation or their interpretation of the implications of the behavior of water molecules under extreme confinement as it relates to "alternative therapies" and big Pharma ... ?

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Response to Achilleaze (Original post)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:05 PM

6. Are you trying to tie this to homeopathy?

 

Seems pretty dishonest or ignorant to me.

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:33 PM

9. Looks like it. nt

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Response to Achilleaze (Original post)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:06 PM

7. The test of any drug is whether it works in a double-blinded trial.

 

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Response to Achilleaze (Original post)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:06 PM

8. ...




Welcome to DU.

Watch out for chemtrails.

Sid

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Response to Achilleaze (Original post)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:39 PM

10. Homeopathic delocalized tunneling miracle water soon to be on the market

I'm predicting, and the only customers will be those who have only the vaguest and most wrong-headed notions about the physics discussed in the article.

The physics is interesting, but the conditions under which the behavior is evident are extreme; close to zero chance that there is any medical application or implication.

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Response to Achilleaze (Original post)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:48 PM

11. What on earth does water in mineral crystals have

to do with homeopathy? I'm pretty sure you didn't actually understand that article at all. Water is a mineral. As a crystalline solid, it crystallizes in the hexagonal system of crystallization, like many other minerals, including beryl, which you showed in your image. That has been known since the beginnings of the science of crystallography.

That has nothing whatever to do with homeopathy. There is no connection. It is simply the crystal system of the mineral we call water. Physics.

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Response to Achilleaze (Original post)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:56 PM

12. Fine, but this has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with pharmacology.

And magic homeopathic water still does not work.

There. I fixed the OP.

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Response to Achilleaze (Original post)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 07:58 PM

13. Wait...

this is serious?

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Response to Achilleaze (Original post)

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 09:32 PM

14. WOW, what a non sequitur ! Absolutely no connection between the unverifiable woo claim in first para

and the actual, seriously scientific article cited. None.

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