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Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:18 PM

"What has Wikileaks ever taught us?" ... Read on ...

How often have we been told in world-weary tones that Wikileaks has revealed nothing new - especially by those who want to appear to be in the know? Here is an aide-mémoire of a few of the highest profile revelations.

by Ryan Gallagher
17 February 2011

Since 2006, whistleblower website WikiLeaks ↑ has published a mass of information we would otherwise not have known. The leaks have exposed dubious procedures at Guantanamo Bay ↑ and detailed meticulously the Iraq War's unprecedented civilian death-toll ↑ . They have highlighted the dumping of toxic waste in Africa ↑ as well as revealed America's clandestine military actions in Yemen and Pakistan ↑ .

The sheer scope and significance of the revelations is shocking. Among them are great abuses of power, corruption, lies and war crimes. Yet there are still some who insist WikiLeaks has "told us nothing new". This collection, sourced from a range of publications across the web, illustrates nothing could be further from the truth. Here, if there is still a grain of doubt in your mind, is just some of what WikiLeaks has told us:


•The Obama administration worked with Republicans to protect Bush administration officials facing a criminal investigation into torture (see Mother Jones ↑ )


•More than 66,000 civilians suffered “violent deaths” in Iraq between 2004 and the end of 2009 (see the Telegraph ↑ )



Gee. No wonder they want to shut up Assange and the Internet he rode in on.

PS: The picture above is of Jose Padilla in his sensory deprivation goggles.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:43 PM

1. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!


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Response to WillyT (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:50 PM

2. Assange and Posada in the Propaganda System

Something from a pair of names people who believe in democracy should know:

Mixed Media

Assange and Posada in the Propaganda System

January 26, 2011


Posada, now 82, is a self-confessed terrorist, Bay of Pigs veteran, School of the Americas graduate, and CIA operative who has been credibly placed at two meetings where the plan was hatched for the October 1976 bombing of a Cuban airliner that killed all 73 civilians aboard. He also has been implicated in numerous other terrorist acts in which people were killed or injured and property destroyed, and he played a role in the United States' arms-smuggling network in Central America that eventually came to light in the Iran-Contra investigations.

"The CIA taught us everything," Posada told the New York Times in 1998. "They taught us explosives, how to kill, bomb, trained us in acts of sabotage." Posada was a star pupil. But as a longtime CIA asset and, until the past decade, the "most notorious commando in the anti-Castro underground," the U.S. justice system has never charged Posada with a crime related to terrorism or the death of civilians, even though a former FBI counterterrorism expert who investigated the Cuban airliner bombing claims that Posada was "up to his eyeballs" in its planning. Surely this is because his killings and bombings were carried out against targets of U.S. policy, and because he almost certainly would have implicated the CIA.


Julian Assange, by contrast, has not killed anybody, or so far even broken any law, and key U.S. military officials have denied claims that information released into the public realm via WikiLeaks has resulted in anybody's death. In early August 2010, a Pentagon spokesman told theWashington Post that "We have yet to see any harm come to anyone in Afghanistan that we can directly tie to exposure in the documents," and as late as November 28, a different Pentagon official who "didn't want to be named because of the issue's sensitivity" told the McClatchy newspapers that the "military still has no evidence that the leaks have led to any deaths." Even Secretary of Defense Robert Gates admitted that though WikiLeaks has proven "embarrassing" and "awkward," its "consequences for U.S. foreign policy (are) fairly modest."

Assange is nominally under attack in Britain because of allegations against him in Sweden that led to a European arrest warrant being served on him in London for questioning in relation to "rape, sexual molestation and forceful coercion," and for which he now faces an extradition hearing on February 7. But these charges increasingly appear to be a cover for a political assault on WikiLeaks, helped along by the now-pliable right-wing Swedish political establishment, and they have been convincingly exposed as such. (See, e.g., Al Burke, "Sweden, Assange and the USA," Nordic News Network, December 28, 2010.) Assange's real crime is the "exposure and embarrassment of the political class," as John Pilger put it. That and the threat that WikiLeaks will keep doing this.



PS: You are most welcome, WillyT!

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:53 PM

3. I've learned that there are RW Authoritarians in the Dem Party for one thing

And right here at DU, even.

I guess Milgram's number can't all be Republicans.

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Response to kenny blankenship (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:01 PM

4. This will get 'em steamed: WikiLeaks Stratfor Dump Exposes Continued Secret Government Warmongering

The authoritarians are friends of the military industrial complex on Facebook.

WikiLeaks' Stratfor Dump Lifts Lid on Intelligence-Industrial Complex

WikiLeaks' latest release, of hacked emails from Stratfor, shines light on the murky world of private intelligence-gathering

by Pratap Chatterjee
Published on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 by The Guardian/UK

What price bad intelligence? Some 5m internal emails from Stratfor, an Austin, Texas-based company that brands itself as a "global intelligence" provider, were recently obtained by Anonymous, the hacker collective, and are being released in batches by WikiLeaks, the whistleblowing website, starting Monday.

The most striking revelation from the latest disclosure is not simply the military-industrial complex that conspires to spy on citizens, activists and trouble-causers, but the extremely low quality of the information available to the highest bidder. Clients of the company include Dow Chemical, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon, as well as US government agencies like the Department of Homeland Security, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Marines.


Assange notes that Stratfor is also seeking to profit directly from this information by partnering in an apparent hedge-fund venture with Shea Morenz, a former Goldman Sachs managing director. He points to an August 2011 document, marked "DO NOT SHARE OR DISCUSS", from Stratfor CEO George Friedman, which says:

"What StratCap will do is use our Stratfor's intelligence and analysis to trade in a range of geopolitical instruments, particularly government bonds, currencies and the like."



Thank you for noticing, kenny blankenship. Milgram's are always willing to turn it up a notch.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:21 PM

5. Milgrammies "turn it up a notch" -- ouch!

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Response to nashville_brook (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:37 PM

6. Authoritarians are good to work with, especially when warmongering and repressing.

The Chinese are modern masters. And the bastard BFEE were clinking champagne toasts a few days after the massacre at Tiananmen Square put down China's fledgling democracy movement.

Know your BFEE: Olympic Games Show Who s Best Friends Forever with Authoritarians and Dictators

As for Milgrammies on DU -- they're busy getting the last word because that's what they're trained to do. From the J-REF Amazing Randi forum:

"Remember that the goal of conspiracy rhetoric is to bog down the discussion, not to make progress toward a solution" Jay Windley

Anyone wondering where the jobs went?

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:42 PM

7. More than 250,000 cables and documents released.


They did not review most of them, just threw them out there, putting soldiers and diplomats and spies at risk.

If this was investigative journalism, I would be all for Assange and Wikileaks. But most of the Wikileaks operators were AGAINST the document dump for this very reason. It was Assange who insisted on throwing everything out, consequences be damned.

Yes, some good came of those releases. No doubt some bad came of it, also.

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Response to randome (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:54 PM

8. They were reviewed before release. Not even one imperiled US troops, personnel.

If you know of an honest report where military or civilians were injured or killed, please post the link. Otherwise, I'll err with Assange over Bush et al.

WikiLeaks: No, Media 'Morons,' We Didn't Help Iran Execute An Israeli Spy

Andy Greenberg, Forbes Staff
Covering the worlds of data security, privacy and hacker culture.
Forbes May 16, 2012

Since WikiLeaks first released its flood of classified State Department memos in December of 2010, the secret-spilling site’s critics have been searching for evidence that Julian Assange’s disregard for official secrecy would directly hurt some innocent bystander. On Wednesday, those critics seemed to have found their best evidence yet of that harm. Nevermind that the facts didn’t agree with them.

On Wednesday morning, The Daily Mail headlined an article ”WikiLeaks cable ‘led Iran to hang kick-boxer it claims was Israeli spy who assassinated nuclear scientist,’” a story that was soon picked up by other sites in Israel and around the world, finally ending up on the Drudge Report with the headline “REPORT: ‘Mossad spy’ hanged by Iran was doomed by WIKILEAKS…” linking to an article at the Times of Israel.

Those stories point to the execution of Majid Jamali Fashi, a kick-boxer who was hanged in Iran Tuesday for allegedly assassinating Iranian nuclear scientist Masoud Ali-Mohammadi in January of 2010. The Daily Mail piece cited a redacted cable released by Der Spiegel and WikiLeaks in December 2010 described a briefing between a State Department official in the Iranian town of Baku and an unnamed ‘licensed martial arts coach and trainer’ who opposed the Iranian government’s attempts to recruit local militiamen. Though the cable doesn’t mention Israel or any assassinations, Fashi, a martial artist who had been in the town of Baku days before the cable was released, was soon arrested.

But here’s where the Mail’s story falls apart: The unredacted State Department memo, released after WikiLeaks’ and the Guardian’s notorious snafu last summer that led to the accidental publication of its entire database, names that martial arts trainer and State Department informant. His name, though I won’t cite it here, is not Majid Jamali Fashi. And his branch of martial arts, which was also redacted in the initial release, is not kick boxing.



What we do know: The people with the most to lose via WikiLeaks are the careerists and toadies to Big Business and Wall Street in government. Nice information to know. Too bad since Bobby Kennedy, it seems there's never an Attorney General around when you need one.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:18 AM

15. They did not review 250,000 documents.


They fucked up and let the documents be 'leaked' into the public sphere.

I'm not saying the documents did not do some good. They did. But to say that all 250,000 of them were reviewed is ludicrous. They were leaked from Wikileaks. Ironic, isn't it?

This was not investigative journalism. This was a document dump. At least call it for what it is.

On edit: And no, I DON'T personally know of anyone whose life was put in danger. But then I don't have the time to review 250,000 documents, either.

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Response to randome (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 05:38 PM

17. Pentagon says WikiLeaks war logs do NOT harm national security; Joe Lieberman and Neocons disagree.

Gee. None of the documents contained military information. Yet, the warmonger set says otherwise.

Pentagon says WikiLeaks war logs do NOT harm national security; Neocons disagree

Neocon Joe Lieberman says leaks are “profoundly irresponsible and harmful”

By Justin Elliott in Salon

The Pentagon is telling NBC’s Michael Isikoff that a special assessment team looking over the WikiLeaks Afghanistan war logs has found nothing that could damage national security.

That preliminary assessment, from Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense David Lapan, is strikingly at odds with the official line out of the White House, which immediately invoked “national security” to attack the WikiLeaks release Sunday.

Wrote National Security Advisor James Jones in a strongly worded statement to reporters Sunday: “The United States strongly condemns the disclosure of classified information by individuals and organizations which could put the lives of Americans and our partners at risk, and threaten our national security.”

Robert Gibbs continued with that tack at the press briefing today, arguing the war logs have the “potential to be very harmful to those that are in our military, those that are cooperating with our military, and those that are working to keep us safe.”



BTW: Again, randome, I'll side with Assange -- and the Pentagon -- over Trader Joe and the neocons on this one.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:25 PM

9. Obama and GOP Senators worked to quash Bush war crimes investigation.

Obama and GOPers Worked Together to Kill Bush Torture Probe

A WikiLeaks cable shows that when Spain considered a criminal case against ex-Bush officials, the Obama White House and Republicans got really bipartisan.

By David Corn on Wed. December 1, 2010 3:47 PM PDT
Mother Jones
Zuma/Paul Morse

In its first months in office, the Obama administration sought to protect Bush administration officials facing criminal investigation overseas for their involvement in establishing policies the that governed interrogations of detained terrorist suspects. A "confidential" April 17, 2009, cable sent from the US embassy in Madrid to the State Department—one of the 251,287 cables obtained by WikiLeaks—details how the Obama administration, working with Republicans, leaned on Spain to derail this potential prosecution.

The previous month, a Spanish human rights group called the Association for the Dignity of Spanish Prisoners had requested that Spain's National Court indict six former Bush officials for, as the cable describes it, "creating a legal framework that allegedly permitted torture." The six were former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales; David Addington, former chief of staff and legal adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney; William Haynes, the Pentagon's former general counsel; Douglas Feith, former undersecretary of defense for policy; Jay Bybee, former head of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel; and John Yoo, a former official in the Office of Legal Counsel. The human rights group contended that Spain had a duty to open an investigation under the nation's "universal jurisdiction" law, which permits its legal system to prosecute overseas human rights crimes involving Spanish citizens and residents. Five Guantanamo detainees, the group maintained, fit that criteria.


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Response to Octafish (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:06 AM

13. WikiLeaks Round-Up from Jefferson Morley & Salon

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:10 PM

10. "What has Wikileaks ever taught us?" ... Read on ...


What a sickening looking photograph, just like the the rest of them are.

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Response to clang1 (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:02 AM

12. Why WikiLeaks Matters

FTR: Greg Mitchell got fired from "Editor & Publisher" after the magazine was purchased by the Carlyle Group.

Why WikiLeaks Matters

Greg Mitchell | January 13, 2011
The Nation


For balance, then, it's important to review a small sample of what we have learned thanks to WikiLeaks since April and the release of the "Collateral Murder" US helicopter video, which showed the killing of two Reuters journalists, among others. It's necessary to do this because most in the US media, after brief coverage, provided little follow-up. Consider the scope of even this very limited list of revelations (and I have not even included the shockers that some feel helped spark this month's revolt in Tunisia):

§ The Saudis, our allies, are among the leading funders of international terrorism.

§ The scale of corruption in Afghanistan tops even the worst estimates. President Hamid Karzai regularly releases major drug dealers who have political connections. His half-brother is a major drug operator.


§ The British government assured Washington that our interests would be protected in its "independent" public inquiry into the Iraq War.

§ The Pakistani government has allowed its intelligence unit to hold strategy sessions with the Taliban. Despite longstanding denials, the United States has indeed been conducting special ops inside Pakistan and taking part in joint operations with the Pakistanis.


§ The U.S. embassy in Paris advised Washington to start a military-style trade war against any European Union country which opposed genetically modified (GM) crops.



Best editor E&P ever had, IMFO. E&P had worked to keep the media honest.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:03 AM

14. re Why WikiLeaks Matters


ah Carlyle Group.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:24 AM

11. kick

Thanks for posting this

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:22 AM

16. Thanks!

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