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Sat Nov 19, 2016, 01:45 PM

Another DU attack - on Wiki?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Underground

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sat Nov 19, 2016, 01:51 PM

1. that is exactly what it looks like - great find.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:00 PM

2. Highly unlikely.

Wikipedia is a weird place. Anyone can propose anything there. The article on DU won't be deleted. Cooler heads will prevail.

N.B. - I'm not a participant at Wikipedia, but nothing can happen without a discussion. Since this nomination for an Article for Deletion was just posted today, no discussion has taken place. I expect that any such discussion will lead to the conclusion that the article on Democratic Underground should remain on Wikipedia.

People do this sort of attack all the time. The person who nominated the article for deletion has no credibility or activity on Wikipedia, as far as I can see.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:11 PM

3. Wikipedia editors can help by giving reasons to keep the article

following the link in that box at "please share your thoughts"

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:13 PM

4. I don't see that link, but I'm not a Wikipedia editor.

I assume there will be responses to this nomination for deletion. I've just never gotten involved in Wikipedia editing.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:16 PM

5. There were two changes today...including the flag for deletion by a wiki user who no longer exists.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:18 PM

6. My comments

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Democratic_Underground_(2nd_nomination)#Democratic_Underground

I also disagree with deletion. A simple Google News search on "Democratic Underground" results in 25000+ articles about DU from all kinds of news sources including major newspapers around the world. Let me know if anyone needs me to post specific links on that because there are many. Anyone saying DU fails on notability grounds has simply not done any research at all to determine if that is so. Steven Leser (talk) 18:17, 19 November 2016 (UTC) Steven Leser

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:45 PM

9. It is interesting that there is that Wiki history...

of people 'criticizing' DU for being DU, rather than critiquing the factuality and related citations in the "article" entry.

It's alarming how public censorship is becoming so common place and acceptable.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:31 PM

7. Is this the warning that the Trump Secret Service will come after DU star members

for exercising free speech? That's what I got from this link.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:41 PM

8. wierd how they bring in criticism from a hate site

Who the hell cares what the Antisemites at salem-news think about DU.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2016, 09:14 PM

10. This is continuing. Please all click the below link to see and if you have a wiki account, weigh in

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 22, 2016, 09:34 PM

11. There has been repeated editing.

First, all the negative criticisms disappeared - and what little there was about DU. Two paragraphs, basically.

Now, nothing but the "bad" is back!

I have to admit, Wiki confirmed DU credibility for me when I first stumbled on it - and I don't mind it is being watched by the powers that be - "A kicked dog howls loudest!" - but these repeated attempts to make DU disappear are starting to piss me off big time!



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Response to stevenleser (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 22, 2016, 09:51 PM

12. As someone who was an active contributor to Wiki many years ago, I would disagree.

Unless you regularly edit and contribute at Wikipedia, let the system work itself out.

I think this community easily stands on it's merits, but the perception of canvassing would more than likely serve only to irritate regular contributors and hurt our cause.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:12 PM

13. The problem with that plan is that folks who want DU to go away clearly ARE canvassing

 

And the multiple voices calling for DUs deletions may come to seem like consensus.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:47 PM

14. Is there something simple that ordinary Wikipedia readers can do?

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:50 PM

15. Please email the Admins about this.

This is messed up.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 02:05 PM

16. The Wikipedia is a safe space for libertarians and Randroids

I'm sorry I wasted so many years there, but really, it is a sad cesspool of misogynistic man-children only a few steps removed from the alt-right.

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