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Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:31 PM

The Polack MSgt (9,257 posts)

If you saw me next to the average Trump follower you couldn't tell me from him...

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I'm a white man in my 50s. The doctor wants me to lose 25 pounds & I'm so bald that shaving the remnants takes me no time at all.

I am a retired USAF SNCO married for 30 years, with adult children.

I should be a proud content man looking towards retirement, but I'm not.

My mind is bleak and my heart weeps for the future of this country.

Those are all statements that could lead you to believe that I back Trump and keep a MAGA hat in my truck. After all that's the settled narrative in this election, but in my case it means the exact opposite.

I am continuously sickened by the infantile attitudes, willful ignorance and galling sense of entitlement of people who look just like I do.

Make no mistake, I'm talking about white folks who believe themselves to be the best Americans, the driving force and arbiters of the culture of the USA.

They are weak minded, soft spine cowards afraid of any system that is not rigged in their favor. Angry toddlers looking to take out their frustrations on anyone they perceive as weak.

As much as I hate the GOP and Trump himself, we owe them our thanks for finally holding up a mirror so that we can all see the faces they usually keep hidden

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If you saw me next to the average Trump follower you couldn't tell me from him... (Original post)	The Polack MSgt	Nov 2016	OP
Well said. I could have written this except I'd say '60's' but the same sentiments.	CurtEastPoint	Nov 2016	#1
And same here, but in my 70s.	trof	Nov 2016	#23
You're part of the cure if more are like you	Foggyhill	Nov 2016	#2
I also fit the Trump supporter demographic.	Mr.Bill	Nov 2016	#6
And yet	The Polack MSgt	Nov 2016	#14
+10	Duppers	Nov 2016	#17
I'm a 59 year old white male, and a salaried manager in a mid-size corporation	Martin Eden	Nov 2016	#7
For me it has never been how a person looked	malaise	Nov 2016	#9
There is only thing that counts,	Mendocino	Nov 2016	#12
I'm standing right next to you.	Stinky The Clown	Nov 2016	#13
I may have had a 🍺	The Polack MSgt	Nov 2016	#15
Wow. There are lots of us	GulfCoast66	Nov 2016	#16
Thank you for the reply	The Polack MSgt	Nov 2016	#19
Bravo!	Duppers	Nov 2016	#18
Congratulations, you're one of the good ones!	BarstowCowboy	Nov 2016	#22
Don't know what to make of this	The Polack MSgt	Nov 2016	#24
Thank you for giving me hope again.....	llmart	Nov 2016	#25
I'm a lady in my 60s, Dad was in AF for 20 years,	demigoddess	Nov 2016	#26
As a 36 year old black man	Proud liberal 80	Nov 2016	#27
Thank you for the reply	The Polack MSgt	Nov 2016	#28
32 years old	Turin_C3PO	Nov 2016	#29
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Response to The Polack MSgt (Original post)

Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:32 PM

CurtEastPoint (13,906 posts)

1. Well said. I could have written this except I'd say '60's' but the same sentiments.

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Thu Nov 3, 2016, 04:33 PM

trof (53,155 posts)

23. And same here, but in my 70s.

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Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:33 PM

Foggyhill (1,060 posts)

2. You're part of the cure if more are like you

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Original post)

Wed Nov 2, 2016, 06:13 PM

Mr.Bill (11,914 posts)

6. I also fit the Trump supporter demographic.

Over 60, as white as Opie Taylor, non college graduate retired blue collar worker.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 2, 2016, 09:47 PM

The Polack MSgt (9,257 posts)

14. And yet

You managed to not be a total scumbag.

It isn't hard. We should stop giving these fuckwits a pass

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Thu Nov 3, 2016, 01:08 AM

Duppers (21,924 posts)

17. +10

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Original post)

Wed Nov 2, 2016, 06:22 PM

Martin Eden (10,589 posts)

7. I'm a 59 year old white male, and a salaried manager in a mid-size corporation

You and I differ in 2 ways:

1) I didn't serve in the military.

2) I have a full head of hair (though it is thinning).

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Original post)

Wed Nov 2, 2016, 06:28 PM

malaise (227,521 posts)

9. For me it has never been how a person looked

It's how you behave in general and your attitude to a variety of social issues that counts.

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Original post)

Wed Nov 2, 2016, 08:44 PM

Mendocino (5,559 posts)

12. There is only thing that counts,

is that one doesn't elect repubs, be it the voters age, sex, race, religion, ethnicticity or any other demographic. A vote against them is all that matters.

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Wed Nov 2, 2016, 09:09 PM

Stinky The Clown (63,003 posts)

13. I'm standing right next to you.

15 years or so older, but a similar profile. Drive a full size 'merikin truck with a US Navy Veteran vanity tag. A little overweight. shaved head and full beard. Always have some kind of hat on, many with tractor, equipment, or airplane emblems. I always have a dog with me; until a few months ago it was always a German Shepherd. I live inside the edge of deep red, red country. Closer to the Interstate than Main Street.

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Wed Nov 2, 2016, 09:49 PM

The Polack MSgt (9,257 posts)

15. I may have had a 🍺

With you

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Original post)

Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:55 PM

GulfCoast66 (10,780 posts)

16. Wow. There are lots of us

50 year old here. I can be 2 colors, white or red. Not a small guy.

Truck, boots, jeans and cap when off work. Hunt and fish. Own a saltwater boat. OK, the wife says it is hers.

At work wool slacks and nice dress shirt. Jacket as needed.

I have recently had a couple of men assume I was a Trump supporter. Imagine their surprise when I tell them I am a Social Democrat who thinks we need more socialism! Both just shut up and moved along where I was concerned about a conflict.

Have a nice evening.

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Thu Nov 3, 2016, 01:10 AM

The Polack MSgt (9,257 posts)

19. Thank you for the reply

Yeah. We have to fit the cubicle culture - no matter what

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Thu Nov 3, 2016, 01:09 AM

Duppers (21,924 posts)

18. Bravo!

Well said!

Thx for the thread.

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Original post)

Thu Nov 3, 2016, 03:57 PM

BarstowCowboy (171 posts)

22. Congratulations, you're one of the good ones!

You are a good white person.

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Thu Nov 3, 2016, 05:31 PM

The Polack MSgt (9,257 posts)

24. Don't know what to make of this

Not believing in racial superiority doesn't make me a special person.

To me not being a racist is on the same level as not pulling the wings off flies or kicking puppies - Doing those things are bad, not doing them is not special.

Not being a white supremacist is base line decent behavior

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Thu Nov 3, 2016, 06:56 PM

llmart (11,701 posts)

25. Thank you for giving me hope again.....

I have to admit that when I see a pick up truck with a white guy driving, I get a visceral reaction. However, my brother who is 64 was a truck driver all his life, fishes (doesn't hunt), wears Carhartt clothes, etc. and he has never voted in his life - EVER. He never thought it made any difference in his life, but for the first time in his life he has registered and voted for Hillary. Completely made me rethink my own stereotyping of men because I know him to be a very kind, decent, caring person.

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Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:04 PM

demigoddess (5,773 posts)

26. I'm a lady in my 60s, Dad was in AF for 20 years,

my husband in for 25. I agree with you. Trump reminds me so much of my history studies of WWII and Hitler. I hate the idea that americans could fall for someone like him. I grew up thinking our system could never fall to someone like Hitler or trump.

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Original post)

Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:39 PM

Proud liberal 80 (3,448 posts)

27. As a 36 year old black man

I am guilty of stereotyping someone like you. Last month, my family and I were at a Zaxby's in Ocala, Fl (trump country). A 50+ year old white couple sat in the booth next to ours. I immediately thought trump supporters.

They told us how cute our daughters were. And I said thank you, but still thinking that they were hardcore conservatives.

As we were eating we were making small talk. Near the end, the lady told us to remember to vote. And the man said that with a YES! That is when I was like "hold on, could they be"

Then they went off on Trump, the republicans, and the Ocala residents. They talked about how much they loved President Obama and Hillary.

By the way, I am currently in the Air Force.

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Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:18 PM

The Polack MSgt (9,257 posts)

28. Thank you for the reply

almost 50% of white people overall support Trump.

But only about a third of women and about a third of white men under 30 support him.

That means that it is my demographic overwhelmingly on the Trump wagon. Old white men are failing the nation.

Oh and Aim High cousin. Except with the rifle, aim that at center of mass.

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Original post)

Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:31 PM

Turin_C3PO (6,167 posts)

29. 32 years old

White male, worked in the local mine, currently working in construction. I own a truck with a gun rack (I hunt occasionally) and have a Hillary sticker and Vote Dem! sticker affixed to the bumper. I have Cystic Fibrosis so I take it personally when Rethugs say people like me don't deserve insurance because of pre-existing conditions or because we can't afford the ridiculous high prices for drugs. If not for Medicaid (THANK YOU OBAMA FOR THE ACA!!), my meds would cost me $3500 monthly and I would be long dead.

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