If you were in a "safe" state like CA or NY...

... sucking up to Vladimir Putin in Moscow put her on my permanent shit list. I would never vote for her.

from CA

Screw these quadrennial attention hogs.

He needs to be the BIGGEST loser in history. He needs to have more votes against him than anyone in history.

Ever

She is a lousy candidate.

I'm not a fan of splitting tickets. In reality, a race is between two people, and spoiler candidates lead to victories like Bush's and Paul LePage's. Fuck that.

I want it to be a huge victory to send a strong message to the GOP. The more votes for Clinton, the better. (And yes I voted for Bernie in the primary.)

She has no coherent plans and is NOT fit for office. Why do people think idiots should run the country all of a sudden?

I wouldn't vote for her based on her music alone (did you hear it?!), let alone her crackpot ideas.

I can't believe people I know would throw away their vote for her vs. Hillary.

bashing Hillary Clinton for almost this entire year.

So... uh,

They're not.

People who want to effect real progressive change in CA have the opportunity to, above and beyond supporting Democrats, by voting to legalize marijuana this year.

I do not vote for candidates that I do not think would do a decent job in the office for which they are running, whether I like the Democratic party's candidate or not.

I would like to see a viable Green candidate, especially for local or state offices, but Stein is not IMHO a serious choice.

and the answer is no. I'm not taking any chances.

She is a Putin puppet and says that Trump is better than Hillary.

Nope! No way, no how.

Why didn't she run for the house or senate all these years?

Not really. I'm just a contrarian. I couldn't resist.

own selfish ego.

She will soon be forgotten in the dustbin of history

ever bringing about issues she is for.

She hasn't the judgment, experience, or temperament. She would be better than Trump or Johnson, but that is all I will say about her.
As I noted in the title, if you are interested in Basic Income, you need to elect a Congress that would discuss it. The President could try to get a law passed, but only Congress can do that job.

Do your Congressman and Senators support basic income? If they don't, that is where you need to put your efforts.

I see no reason an ant-vaxer is better on this issue than Democrats.

I wasn't aware of that. To be honest I don't know that much about the idea, but from what I know it doesn't seem like something he would support, at least not publicly.

The Democrats tend to follow trends and it's unlikely Jill Stein would support automation.

What's the point of voting for Stein? If you want to vote for someone who's positions you agree with 100% and don't care about political pragmatism at all, the best option would be to write yourself in. Yeah, it's a wasted vote, but if you're wasting your vote anyway might as well give it to yourself.

Personally, I'm going to be voting for people who are actually changing things and not just running vanity campaigns. Like I said, I've been supporting politicians who are actually working on basic income. I have no interest in supporting people who talk about it and do absolutely nothing to further it (or even do things that would make it more difficult, which Stein does when she says Trump and Clinton are equally bad).

The Green Party really puts up some crazies, including Stein.

On edit: Or an IWW candidate.

everything else she's wrong about?

Plus, merely coming out strongly for something (just look at such things on the part of candidates for every office out there) means very little.

Perhaps the most essential thing to keep in mind if you're ever tempted to vote third party, is that every single member of Congress is a Republican, a Democrat, or an Independent who caucuses with the Democrats. Had Bernie Sanders become the nominee and then were to be elected, he'd have had all of the years behind him when he was in Congress and would probably have been quite effective.

Hillary Clinton has long been a Democrat herself and did serve a term and a bit more as a Senator. She knows how law-making works.

Jill Stein and Gary Johnson do not have anyone in their respective political parties in Congress. If Libertarians or Greens or any other party out there were really serious about someday electing a President, they'd go about having people run for all of the lower level offices out there, and over time would have a viable political presence. Instead, they run for President with little notion of what they'd really have to do if they somehow attained that office.

If you think a basic income is a good thing, then advocate for it through your own Senators and Representative. Maybe start some sort of lobbying effort.

and won't consider third party, not even to make a "statement."

The only statement I want to make is that Trump lose in the biggest landslide ever to Clinton.

We are voting for president and 2 members of SCOTUS. Way too much on the line to be frittering around with fruitless third party votes.

Wouldn't vote for either of those two for dog catcher.

Why would anyone even consider voting for someone with absolutely no abilities?

Super safe and Stein's home state no less.

While I do think we need to seriously look at guaranteed basic income over the long term, it's not going to happen overnight. Not in the next four years for sure, and Jill Stein is most definitely NOT the one to get much of anything done on any front.

If enough blue state voters get the inclination that they're in a safely blue state, guess what happens? Remember brexit?

Clinton will need a large margin of victory to shut Trump up after the election. A vote for Stein or Johnson is a vote for Trump

To get people kicked off of DU?

than you are with Jill Stein. Besides, jobs and a strong safety net should be the focus. Better to target that money to infrastructure and education. You would never get a basic income in this country without a hit on the safety net. It would be a voucher or government debit card. Not wages, not cash. What if people blow it all? And who would give them credit if they have no income beyond basic?

It will save you some embarrassment. Jill Stein is a buffoon.

I come from the left wing of the Dem party and I have supported the Greens in the past when I lived in a liberal safe state. I want the Greens to succeed and the Dems to move left. Ideally, the GOP implodes the Dems become the new conservative party and the Greens become the new liberal party.

I have lived through Reagan, I have lived through Bush and, while I fear Trump's temperament, I also believe he would be a lame duck president from the onset. I've seen this in Minnesota when Jesse Ventura was elected. So, the fear argument doesn't work on me anymore. Really, it just makes me mad.

That said, Stein is no more qualified to be president than Trump. Senate? Sure. I'd vote for her for any office except president. Over the last few elections I've come to the conclusion that the POTUS, the most powerful position in the history of the world with nuclear codes available, that person needs have experience in public office at some level. That person needs to have some familiarity with the workings of Washington and, if possible, the workings of foreign powers.

As lovely a fantasy it is to send in an "outsider" to clean up Washington only one of two things will happen - that person will be a lame duck or that person will be run over by the legislature.

So, under these circumstances, no, I won't risk electing a completely unqualified person for POTUS. If Hillary were running against Cruz or Kasich I might vote Stein in a safe state but not if Carson or Fiorina were the candidate.

The popular vote margin needs to be a blow out for Hillary.

I'd vote for either of my cats first.

Even if she came out for socialism, I wouldn't, because she has absolutely no real base of support. You can't just stand on the sidelines and expect people to come when you whistle every four years.

That is a violation of the TOS, which you signed.

That is as blunt an answer as I can give you.

She is even less qualified than Trump

If we somehow ran someone that was terrible (say our own version Donald Trump, but thankfully we have safe guards in place to prevent that from happening) but I happen to think we've got the absolute best candidate on the ticket and I think I'd have a very hard time not voting for a Democrat.

I really like Jill Stein but I like Hillary more.

If you're a Democrat you vote Democrat EVERY time, even if you're not crazy about the candidate (you'd have to be crazy not to this election).

No fucking way.

She is a total whack-a-loon with not a clue.

Volunteer for phone banks.
Volunteer to pick up and take them to the polls.
Know a friend or two that isn't going to vote. Hold a voting party with the price of admission an I voted sticker.

There is no safe state until the votes are counted.

She's the one.

Even if I supported basic income, I really don't like Jill Stein. Anyone who says there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans has zero credibility with me and doesn't get my vote.

Since I live in a solidly blue state I might consider a protest vote to send a message in certain circumstances, but there would have to be a Green (or other party) candidate I liked a lot better than Jill Stein, and the Democrat would have to be significantly to the right of Hillary for me to consider it.