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Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:59 PM

Trump rally going on right now playing WAGNER

playing Wagner's famous "Ride of the Valkyries" to introduce Trump as he comes out to speak



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Reply Trump rally going on right now playing WAGNER (Original post)
wheniwasincongress Oct 2016 OP
whatthehey Oct 2016 #1
OKNancy Oct 2016 #2
SCRUBDASHRUB Oct 2016 #27
fierywoman Oct 2016 #37
Kber Oct 2016 #3
superpatriotman Oct 2016 #4
wheniwasincongress Oct 2016 #8
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #5
still_one Oct 2016 #13
stopbush Oct 2016 #25
Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #30
lindysalsagal Oct 2016 #6
still_one Oct 2016 #9
LongTomH Oct 2016 #10
lapfog_1 Oct 2016 #12
hlthe2b Oct 2016 #14
Mme. Defarge Oct 2016 #32
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2016 #15
kentuck Oct 2016 #31
malaise Oct 2016 #16
Hoyt Oct 2016 #17
anamandujano Oct 2016 #38
PearliePoo2 Oct 2016 #18
Princess Turandot Oct 2016 #19
Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #28
gratuitous Oct 2016 #20
Qutzupalotl Oct 2016 #21
Elwood P Dowd Oct 2016 #22
hatrack Oct 2016 #23
world wide wally Oct 2016 #24
kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #26
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #33
lpbk2713 Oct 2016 #34
Bucky Oct 2016 #35
FrodosPet Oct 2016 #36
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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:00 PM

1. Well at least his musical taste has improved.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:00 PM

2. Really? tone deaf or ignorant or on purpose.... ?

Richard Wagner (1818-1883) was Hitler's favorite composer. During World War I, it is reported, he carried Wagner's music from Tristanin his knapsack. Often Hitler had Wagner's music performed at party rallies and functions. Wagner's music was uncompromisingly serious, and intensely Teutonic. It was not only Wagner's music that 'struck a chord' with Hitler, but also his political views. Wagner wrote a violently antisemitic booklet in the 1850s called Das Judebthum in die Musik (Judaism in Music) insisting the Jews poisoned public taste in the arts. He founded the Bayreuth festival, which in the 1930s and 1940s was used by the Nazi party as a propaganda tool against the Jews.

http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/arts/musreich.htm

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:10 PM

27. Wagner wrote "Bridal Chorus" (or what us known commonly as the wedding march).

Commonly used in wedding processionals to announce the bride on what should be a joyous day, this piece plays a less cheerful role in Wagner's opera Lohengrin. Wagner came upon the opera's inspiration around 1845 when he took interest in the legend of the Holy Grail through the poems of Wolfram von Eschenbach and the anonymous epic of Lohengrin. Composed by 1848, Lohengrin features "Bridal Chorus" as the prelude to a very short-lived, doomed marriage between Elsa and Lohengrin. The piece is sung by women serenading Elsa to the bridal suite after the wedding in Act III. It's not the happiest of allusions — and many find it distasteful to be reminded of the notoriously anti-Semitic Wagner during a wedding ceremony (or ever).

http://www.classicalmpr.org/story/2014/07/21/controversial-wedding-music

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Response to SCRUBDASHRUB (Reply #27)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:36 PM

37. re the wedding march

Let's not forget that in the opera Lohengrin, the groom's agreement for marriage is that the bride must never ask his name nor where he comes from, and even after they formally marry, as it turns out (because the bride is finagled into asking who he is) the couple end up never consummating the marriage.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:00 PM

3. Seriously?

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:00 PM

4. I refuse to watch - please tell me you're joking

Wagner?

Like Hitler's favorite composer, Wagner?

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:02 PM

8. Yes!

"Ride of the Valkyries!" even children know the song!

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:01 PM

5. Figures. Wagner was a horrible anti-Semite.

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Although I confess to really liking Parsifal.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:04 PM

13. A lot of folks don't realize that. However, one cannot ignore the gift of his music, even though he

was an asshole

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:45 PM

25. Many Europeans were rampant anti-Semites during Wagner's time.

I recommend the book "Aspects of Wagner" by Bryan Macgee. It's a short read.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:40 PM

30. Bernard Herrmann's Vertigo theme borrowed much from Wagner's Tristan and Isolde.

 

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:02 PM

6. Kill de wabbit, kill de wabbit....

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:03 PM

9. Wagner was one of Hitler's favorites, and Wagner was a vehement anti-Semite

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:03 PM

10. Ride of the Valkyries, no doubt!

Perfect choice for Herr Dtumpf!!!

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:03 PM

12. Well, might as well bring out the swastika

"Wagner was promoted during the Nazi era as one of Adolf Hitler's favourite composers. Historical perception of Wagner has been tainted with this association ever since, and there is debate over how Wagner's writings and operas might have influenced the creation of Nazi Germany."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_controversies

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:05 PM

14. He's going full on "Hitler"

Wagner as appropriated by the Nazis after all

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #14)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:48 PM

32. Beat me to it!

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:05 PM

15. Just like The Blues Brothers

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:41 PM

31. Good one!

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:07 PM

16. He really lovs his Hitler

Didn't Hitler promote Wagner big time - he's really gone all racist on America.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:09 PM

17. Besides Hitler's favorite as pointed out above, Wagner is dead, so he can't hold a press conference

telling the disgusting white wing racist to stop using his music at campaign events.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #17)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:50 PM

38. He probably would send a cease and desist like all the other artists the GOP rips off.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:09 PM

18. Hillary can counter with Beethoven's Fifth! nt.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:14 PM

19. Given that the gods and goddesses all go down in flames in the end...

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...the end being the last act of the 4th (and last) opera in The Ring cycle, in a fire started by the Valkyrie Brünnhilde, it might be more appropriate than they realize!

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Response to Princess Turandot (Reply #19)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:19 PM

28. Well, it was a Luftwaffe of sorts.

 

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:17 PM

20. How many of the rally attendees are paid to be there?

We'll find out sooner or later.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:18 PM

21. Because all the living artists refuse to give him rights

to play their music at his rallies.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:32 PM

22. Have you heard many Sieg Heils? (nm)

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:35 PM

23. It's also public domain - no pesky licensing fees or copyright . . .

Not just suitably "Aryan" music for the "Aryan" candidate, but perfectly suited to his cheap-ass approach to . . well, everything.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:40 PM

24. Anybody think that as Trump loses it more and more, he will grow a little mustache?

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:52 PM

33. They really should play something from Götterdämmerung.

At the end of the Ring cycle everything goes up in flames...

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:54 PM

34. No one wants to let him use copyrighted music.




He's pissed off too many for using their works without permission.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:55 PM

35. beautiful theme song from a war all Americans remember we lost

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 05:10 PM

36. I would think this piece is a better representation of the status of Trump's campaign

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