Ammon Bundy Takes The Stand For 3rd Day - # BundyTeaParty

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By BRYAN M. VANCE, CONRAD WILSON • 4 HOURS AGO

Occupation leader Ammon Bundy is expected to begin his third — and likely final — day of testimony Thursday morning ... He’s expected to give about 90 minutes of direct testimony, and then all of the other defense attorneys will get to ask Ammon Bundy questions ...

... jurors could see an unusual occurrence in federal court: one brother questioning another about the alleged conspiracy and the occupation ...

... In his first two days on the stand, he has essentially retold his life story ...

He’s also spoken a lot about his faith and his belief that the Constitution is a divine document ...

http://ijpr.org/post/ammon-bundy-takes-stand-3rd-day-oregon-standoff-trial#stream/0

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1. Bundy: Refuge takeover a ‘win-win-win’ situation

KOIN 6 News Staff
Published: October 6, 2016, 6:00 am
Updated: October 6, 2016, 12:37 pm

... Bundy returned to the witness stand for a third day and explained why he felt 3 possible outcomes of the refuge takeover would help further his cause.

First of all, he said, the occupation would inevitably garner media attention and give ranchers like himself an opportunity express their concerns with federal government overreach.

The refuge takeover effort could also possibly give Harney County residents control over the land and local resources, a primary goal in the occupation.

Even if Bundy was arrested, charged with trespassing and served with an eviction notice, he said he could fight the issue of land ownership in court ...

http://koin.com/2016/10/06/ammon-bundy-testify-for-3rd-day-in-malheur-case/

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2. 'Men in the trees and everywhere else'

By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on October 06, 2016 at 12:43 PM
updated October 06, 2016 at 1:10 PM

... "Victoria Sharp and Shawna Cox were in the van. Ryan and LaVoy were not,'' he said. "They very emotionally told me LaVoy had been shot.''

Assistant U.S. Attorney Ethan Knight objected, and U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown sustained it. It was the first of many similar objections that followed Thursday ...

Bundy ... described his training sessions on land rights, and he showed jurors videos of their prayer sessions and videos and photos of his visits with ranchers from the community. He described how he and others freely traveled to and from the refuge during the stay there, grabbing a haircut and Chinese food in Burns on some visits and traveling to and from his home in Emmett, Idaho, three times ...

Bundy also said a post found on his Facebook page with a man dressed in camouflage with an assault rifle that read, "Forgive Me Father For I Will Sin'' was put up by him. He said five others had access to his Facebook account ...

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/ammon_bundy_describes_arrest_m.html

[haele]

3. Constitution is a divine document?

Does he mean he swallowed the sloppy Dominionist histrionics David Barton is peddling as U.S. History, that the Constitution was handed down from on High to Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Co. to enshrine in Law for this country?
The Constitution was "so divine" that the Continental Congress began amending the it before the ink on the ratifying signatures was dry, and continued to be amended as circumstances warranted.

Haele

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5. Moses brought it back with him after he climbed Mount Everest

Some of us actually remember what we learned in high school

[haele]

7. Hey, I remember we still had duck and cover drills until I was in second grade...

Of course, we were living 30 miles from Vandenburg AFB at the time, and the town fathers still had Cold War fears...
I do remember my Mom and Dad trying to figure out New Math when I brought it home, though.


Haele

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10. Such good times!

[Scurrilous]

17. LOL

And the Golden Calf shall graze for free upon Federal land.

[FreeState]

13. This is a Mormon belief

They believe the constitution is an inspired document by God.

Edit to add:

https://www.lds.org/ensign/1992/02/the-divinely-inspired-constitution?lang=eng

[Submariner]

4. Leave some extra rope in his cell

maybe we can get lucky and he will hang himself.

[randome]

6. Ummm...

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

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8. Ammon Bundy says he felt his life was in "extreme danger" during arrest

Steve Bertel
2:36 PM, Oct 6, 2016

Ammon Bundy testified he believed his life was in "extreme danger" during his arrest ...

... Bundy described the Jan. 26 traffic stop that ended with his arrest, saying he feared getting shot .. and was too afraid to pick up his hat.

Bundy also described Robert "LaVoy" Finicum's death as “an ambush” ...

When Bundy called it an ambush, U.S. District Judge Anna Brown halted further mention of the topic, reminding the courtroom that Finicum's death is not being litigated.

http://www.kivitv.com/news/ammon-bundy-says-he-felt-his-life-was-in-extreme-danger-during-arrest

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9. I can hear the prosecutors honing their instruments from here

Ammon is going to get carved up on cross-examination.

[lindysalsagal]

11. Surprised to hear that he has enough words for 3 days....

I would have thought he would be all tapped out in 5 minutes....

[GOLGO 13]

12. Martydom denied! The govt has plenty of room in our prisons for domestic terrorists.

[Volaris]

14. So much for his not recognizing the authority of the court, I guess...

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15. Ammon Bundy: Guns allowed Oregon refuge occupiers to express First Amendment rights

By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on October 06, 2016 at 6:14 PM, updated October 06, 2016 at 7:02 PM

After Ammon Bundy spent three days testifying .. a prosecutor Thursday afternoon fired rapid questions at him during a cross-examination that lasted just under 15 minutes ...

The prosecutor asked if it were true that Bundy testified earlier Thursday that "We were all there for a unified purpose.''

Bundy said he didn't remember ...

Knight asked if it were true that Bundy had received a $530,000 loan from the U.S. Small Business Administration to support his business. Bundy's lawyer objected to the question, but the judge overruled the objection ...

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/prosecutors_brief_cross-examin.html

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16. Ammon Bundy denies being leader of Malheur occupation

By: AP
Posted: Oct 06, 2016 02:06 PM PDT
Updated: Oct 06, 2016 06:12 PM PDT

... Assistant U.S. Attorney Ethan Knight pressed Ammon Bundy on Friday on his claim that he wasn't the leader, pointing to earlier testimony in which he said he was "sort of" in charge.

Bundy told Knight he teaches correct principles and lets people govern themselves.

Bundy also acknowledged receiving a $530,000 U.S. Small Business Administration loan to help his commercial vehicle maintenance business.

He rejected that it made him a hypocrite. Bundy says he supports the federal government, but not its management of land within states ...

http://www.ktvz.com/news/ammon-bundy-says-he-felt-in-extreme-danger-during-arrest/107760951

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18. Armed occupation leader cites religious faith in justifying Oregon refuge takeover

Source: Reuters

U.S. | Thu Oct 6, 2016 | 9:58pm EDT

Armed occupation leader cites religious faith in justifying Oregon refuge takeover

By Scott Bransford | PORTLAND, ORE.

Ammon Bundy, who led an armed occupation of a U.S. wildlife center in Oregon earlier this year, testified in federal court on Thursday that his hostility toward federal land ownership was shaped by his religious faith and "natural laws."

Taking the witness stand for a third day at his conspiracy trial in U.S. District Court in Portland, Bundy delved further into the ideology he said was behind the forcible takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge by a band of militants in January.

Bundy told jurors that his group seized the refuge in rural eastern Oregon not only to protest what they saw as overreach by the U.S. government but to show how public lands should be entrusted to private citizens according to an ancient, divinely inspired set of doctrines.

“These principles, they’re not something that comes and goes,” Bundy, 41, said under questioning from his attorney. “They’re natural laws that we were teaching.”

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-oregon-militia-idUSKCN12705I

[Maru Kitteh]

19. Don't give a damn about his "beliefs" - this is about the law.

Freakin looney-tune grifter.

[Nevernose]

21. No

This is about about convincing all twelve jurors that he's guilty.

It's a win-win for this asshole. Guilty, he gets six years, serves two including time served. Fox News, books, speaking fees, etc.

Not guilty or hung jury? Same thing except charging twice as much.

Either way it's got to be more money and easier work than owning a limo company in Phoenix pays.

[Maru Kitteh]

22. last I checked, juries were part of the legal system

[Nevernose]

23. Irrelevant. That asshole wins either way

He either convinces one of them that saving America from birds is patriotic -- just one -- or he's found guilty. Either way, he wins. The punishment isn't very severe if he's guilty, and if it's a hung jury he can begin his militia speaker circuit a couple of years sooner. Hell, two or three years behind bars might make him a martyr to the lunatic right and a millionaire after he gets out.

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32. At least he will lose his gun rights if convicted. nt

[Rex]

20. Why does this wackadoodle get 3 days to talk bullshit in court?

Is there a time limit?

[UTUSN]

24. I'm getting a pain in the gut at the thought this a-hole might get off n/t

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25. Bundy Denies Leading Refuge Occupiers

STEVEN DUBOIS
ASSOCIATED PRESS
PORTLAND, Ore. — Oct 6, 2016, 8:58 PM ET

... Bundy was questioned by his own attorney and lawyers representing the other six people charged in the alleged conspiracy. One was his brother and co-defendant Ryan Bundy, who's acting as his own lawyer.

"How you doing, brother?" Ammon asked Ryan at the start of the testimony.

The pair discussed their relationship, from childhood to the start of the occupation. Ammon testified that the pair spoke by phone in the run up to the occupation, but never discussed the refuge or impeding federal workers ...

"I know you were not very prepared, didn't have much of a jacket," said Ammon Bundy ...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/turnaround-bundy-denies-leading-refuge-occupiers-42632643

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26. Despite Prior Testimony, Ammon Bundy 'Can't Remember' Occupying Oregon Refuge

Thursday, October 06, 2016Last Update: 6:24 PM PT
By KARINA BROWN

... Knight spent about 15 minutes mostly asking Bundy about statements he had made under direct examination. Using his usual earnest tone of voice, Bundy denied or claimed not to remember events he had recently described.

Bundy changed his tune about whether he was the leader of the occupation, claimed not to remember whether he was in Burns in November 2015 for a series of meetings he had earlier described having with Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward, and claimed he didn't remember talking about making changes to the refuge.

During questioning from his lawyer Marcus Mumford, Bundy had detailed the "improvements" he and his fellow occupiers made to the refuge in line with their belief that they could claim the deed to the federal property through the arcane legal doctrine of adverse possession.

But he backpedaled when Knight asked him about the legal process he had earlier described with enthusiasm and certainty ...

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/10/06/despite-prior-testimony-ammon-bundy-cant-remember-occupying-oregon-refuge.htm

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27. Bundy cites religious faith in justifying Oregon refuge takeover

By Reuters Media
Today at 9:23 a.m.

... During a brief, heated cross-examination, federal prosecutor Ethan Knight questioned how Bundy could disdain federal land management while owning a truck repair business that once received a $530,000 loan from the Small Business Administration, a federal agency.

Bundy asserted he did not fully understand that the loan he received came from the SBA, since he obtained it with the help of a private bank.

“I recall I got it through that, but I’m not sure what that means,” Bundy said ...

http://www.brainerddispatch.com/news/elsewhere/4131492-armed-occupation-leader-bundy-cites-religious-faith-justifying-oregon-refuge

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28. Bundy denies leading refuge occupiers

by STEVEN DUBOIS, Associated Press

... Medenbach's lawyer, Matthew Schindler, asked Bundy how a federal employee was supposed to work when Bundy was using her office and sitting in her chair.

"I didn't really think of it," Bundy said ...

http://katu.com/news/local/in-turnaround-bundy-denies-leading-refuge-occupiers

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29. Ammon Bundy Finishes Testimony (audio)

https://soundcloud.com/thislandisourland/update-ammon-bundy-finishes-testimony
https://soundcloud.com/thislandisourland

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30. Thursday highlights

By The Oregonian/OregonLive
on October 07, 2016 at 5:00 AM
updated October 07, 2016 at 5:02 AM

... Jeanette Finicum, the widow of occupation spokesman Robert "LaVoy'' Finicum, briefly testified. She visited the refuge the weekend of Jan. 22, and had planned to meet up with her husband again in Idaho on the following weekend.

The judge didn't allow anyone to question Finicum's widow about her husband's shooting, or a wrongful death lawsuit that she intends to bring against the government.

The federal conspiracy trial will resume on Tuesday next week. Testimony will be heard Tuesday, Thursday and Friday ...

"What we did with Ammon Bundy took far too long,'' the judge told defense lawyers. Bundy was on the stand for a total of about 10 hours over three days ...

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/oregon_standoff_trial_thursday_3.html

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31. Ammon Bundy Contradicts Himself During Malheur Trial

Oct 07, 2016
by Associated Press

Under .. cross-examination, Ammon Bundy denied leading the occupation of a national wildlife refuge and defended receiving a U.S. Small Business Administration loan.

Bundy, 41, who's on trial for conspiring to impede Interior Department workers from doing their jobs at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, was quickly reminded Thursday by Assistant U.S. Attorney Ethan Knight that he had earlier testified that he was the leader.

Bundy said he was not a leader in the way Knight considers him to be ...

http://knpr.org/headline/2016-10/ammon-bundy-contradicts-himself-during-malheur-trial

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33. 'Mr. Bundy, how ya doing?' begins rare exchange

By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on October 09, 2016 at 5:00 AM, updated October 09, 2016 at 9:30 AM

... The greeting began .. an extremely rare direct examination between two defendants who are brothers: one serving as his own lawyer and the other testifying in his own defense ...

The photo appeared to show two faint paths leading to the bunkhouse. Ryan Bundy asked his brother to circle both paths on his computer screen, attempting to challenge the prosecution's contention that occupiers used refuge equipment to build a new road on the property.

"Further digging was done to help improve the wheelchair access?'' Ryan Bundy asked.

"Yes,'' Ammon Bundy said ...

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/mr_bundy_how_ya_doing_began_ra.html