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Thu Sep 8, 2016, 03:42 PM

'Blue lives matter' law used in arrest of New Orleans man who shouted slurs at police: warrant

'Blue lives matter' law used in arrest of New Orleans man who shouted slurs at police: warrant

New Orleans police arrested a man this week and charged him with a hate crime and other offenses after police say he damaged a window at a French Quarter hotel and then shouted slurs at a witness and officers, according to the man's arrest warrant.

It appears to be the first time Louisiana's so-called "blue lives matter" provision has been used to charge someone with a hate crime involving police officers, according to the Anti-defamation League.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/09/nopd_hate_crime_blue_lives_mat.html


Hate crimes against the police?

I can understand arresting someone for incitement to violence or communicating a threat but this is just bad.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 03:45 PM

1. Aw, poor bablies. I hope they recover.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 03:49 PM

2. the criminal protection league will have us all in prison soon enuff nt

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 03:51 PM

3. called one female officer a "dumb a-- c---" and another officer a "dumb a-- n-----."

I think hate crimes are bs attempts at thought control, but if it's a crime to say those things to civilians, it should also be a crime to say them to cops.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:00 PM

4. Civilians don't possess the power to arrest, fine, imprison, etc.

The government does.

While c-bombs and n-bombs are obviously reprehensible, what is the line?

"You, officer, are obviously a person of low breeding and the only virtue to your fornicating with your own mother is that it gave her something to do once the merchant mariner fleet returned to sea."

Should that be a prosecutable offense?

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:19 PM

7. Don't care. Carving out exceptions violates equal protection.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:23 PM

8. Nonsense. Otherwise sunshine laws would be a violation of the 4th and 5th Amendments

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:01 PM

5. Oh, goody, they busted a drunk in the French Quarter

then tried to goose the crime up from vandalism to a hate crime.

This is going to be thrown out so fast it'll make everybody's head spin.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:02 PM

6. We can't have drunks in the French Quarter! What would people think?

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:25 PM

9. Within the past 5 years...........

here in Pittsburgh, a Police Officer arrested a man who had called the Police Officer a name. I think it was "asshole" and maybe a few other words.

The charges were disorderly conduct & some add ons. A judge threw all charges out saying that the man had a right to use that language & because it was directed at a Police Officer did not make it a crime.

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Response to mrmpa (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:32 PM

10. I once met a gentleman that grew up in the Soviet Union who shared a joke with me

An American and Soviet citizen were talking in the park.

The American said, "In the US we have freedom of speech. I can stand at the gate of the White House and yell out, 'The president of the United States is an idiot!' and nothing will happen to me."

The Soviet citizen said, "In the Soviet Union we too have freedom of speech. I can stand at the gate of the Kremlin and yell out, 'The president of the United States is an idiot!' and nothing will happen to me."


*sigh*

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:47 PM

11. This will never stand up to a first amendment test. eom

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #11)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:51 PM

12. I wish I shared your confidence.

I'm not saying you have the wrong conclusion as to how a ruling should go. I just have my doubts the matter will be decided correctly if enough cases are launched one will finally make its way to a judge that sides with the police.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #12)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:53 PM

13. It's a clear cut case of the government shutting down free speech.

 

It's open and shut.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:56 PM

14. I agree but

I also thought Kelo v New London was a clear-cut case of abuse of imminent domain.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:59 PM

15. Hate crimes against the police?

Sounds like something Trump would implement Nation wide.

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