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Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:18 PM

 

Please tell me I'm wrong.

Obama will get just say no from Republicans forever. If Romney wins, Dems will cave like they always do, so, it is better to have Romney, and a somewhat functional Government instead of Stasis.

To Battle this, Obama must tell how he will get anything done if they continue their recalcitrance. Going over Congress's head on Immigration is a positive message against this thought.

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Reply Please tell me I'm wrong. (Original post)
WingDinger Jun 2012 OP
Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #1
WingDinger Jun 2012 #2
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #27
roody Jun 2012 #3
CJCRANE Jun 2012 #4
MineralMan Jun 2012 #5
WingDinger Jun 2012 #6
CJCRANE Jun 2012 #9
MineralMan Jun 2012 #15
WingDinger Jun 2012 #21
Herlong Jun 2012 #7
WingDinger Jun 2012 #8
CJCRANE Jun 2012 #10
WingDinger Jun 2012 #11
Herlong Jun 2012 #12
WingDinger Jun 2012 #14
CJCRANE Jun 2012 #16
WingDinger Jun 2012 #18
Herlong Jun 2012 #22
WingDinger Jun 2012 #23
Herlong Jun 2012 #20
marmar Jun 2012 #13
femmocrat Jun 2012 #17
WingDinger Jun 2012 #19
longship Jun 2012 #24
WingDinger Jun 2012 #25
rucky Jun 2012 #26

Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:20 PM

1. Of course, Dems can gain seats in Congress. If we all show up and vote! nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:21 PM

2. That is the message the Rethugs send their base.

 

We NEED executive AND legislative. Otherwise, no go.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:34 PM

27. And? We've been there, for two years, and he was so busy catering to people that hate him

 

that what little was done serves more to legitimize the republican agenda than to inspire people that don't hate him. And what about the two years prior to his election?

Do you really believe that Americans prefer crazy?

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:23 PM

3. You are wrong. n/t

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:25 PM

4. Um, no.

This so-called "stasis" is still better than what Bushco left us with. Plus why reward the people who caused the crash and the "stasis"?

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:28 PM

5. You're wrong.

We can solve the problem by all working our asses off to elect Democrats to legislative office, both in federal and state legislatures. If we do that, your point is pointless.

That's my plan. What's yours?

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:29 PM

6. Plan is, to work my butt off. But are others thinking this?

 

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Response to WingDinger (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:34 PM

9. Only people who believe RW talking points

would think that.

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Response to WingDinger (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:50 PM

15. Well, all the folks I know through the Minnesota DFL are

fired up to GOTV, so I guess there are others who think so, too.

We've got Minnesota. How's your state?

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:12 PM

21. That is one problem. Calif, is Dem, so, it is of limited value to GOTV. Unless you call other states

 

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:30 PM

7. I'm telling you you are wrong.

 

Voters have the last say. The battle is not about twittiling your thumbs about who will win. The battle is about getting to every last voter. And after the battle is won, then you can twittle your thumbs. Bottom line, stop twittling your thumbs and get to work!

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Response to Herlong (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:33 PM

8. Yup, also though, I worry about the capital strike. If multinationals dig in further.

 

Wrote an article about it some time ago. That too is in peoples minds.

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Response to WingDinger (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:37 PM

10. So you would capitulate to the people

you believe are holding you to ransom?

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:38 PM

11. No, but to not seem ineffectual, Obama must tell how he will override them all.

 

Or, the American People are outraged by the lack of ANY honeymoon period, and lash out.

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Response to WingDinger (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:41 PM

12. I said voters

 

That means we are working within a democracy. No notion of capital strike or ransom here. And Obama lashing out? Whaaaa?

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Response to Herlong (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:49 PM

14. No, the people put pressure on the recalcitrant as they are outraged that the UNAMERICANS are diggin

 

To force the multinationals, if that is possible, to capitulate. That same pressure could apply to Rethugs that dig in. The people would force them to work together.

I am talking about a meme that works for the unamericans. To make voters throw up their hands.

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Response to WingDinger (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:51 PM

16. I don't think people in general

have any notion of a "capital strike". I also think that the lack of investment by many corporations is more due to a lack of demand caused by austerity policies around the world. People worldwide are waking up and realizing that these austerity policies don't work and that demand-side growth policies are needed.

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:54 PM

18. They see the three trillion dollars horded by big business. They see that Wall Street has stopped fu

 

funding Obama's campaign. This is noticed. I am not a concern troll, but this must be fought, as a concept. I have worried about this for months. As I stated in my article, the Rethugs will actively use these concepts towards the end. To frighten voters.

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Response to WingDinger (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:14 PM

22. Voters disfranchisement is a generational problem

 

and if you want to look at recent problems you only have to look as far as Florida and Rick Scott. Keep trying to blame Obama on Democratic Underground.

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Response to Herlong (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:20 PM

23. Not sure how disenfr. applies. Unless you mean the people being dissillusioned, demoralized

 

and stay home. What I am talking about is the Rethugs are selling inevitability. Austerity, Dems being ALWAYS bad for business etc. That the powers that be choose Rethugs to work with. And how to combat that theme.


We know that Rethugs are wannabe Nazi's. But the inevitable meme is what I am talking about.

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:46 PM

13. Their "somewhat functional" government would be Stasi-esque.

nt

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:53 PM

17. Under no circumstances would it be "better to have Romney"!

Even if ... and it is still a big IF.... Obama gets stuck with a repuke Congress, he can still accomplish many changes and initiatives on his own. Today's announcement on immigration is a great example.

Having Romney and Congress rubber-stamp each others' insane reactionary agendas would be the end of any progress that Obama has eked out over the past 3 years.

YOU ARE WRONG. (And advocating such heresy could get you TS'd if you're not careful! )

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #17)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 08:55 PM

19. I am not proposing my vote for Romney, but voters thinking this.

 

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:23 PM

24. You are wrong! Very wrong!

Enough doom and gloom around here.

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Response to longship (Reply #24)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:27 PM

25. Hard subjects avoided, gets us doom and gloom, and cluelessness.

 

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:28 PM

26. You're wrong. Probably not, but you said please.

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