Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:29 AM
Cicada (4,518 posts)
Give every voter a lottery ticket
The winning pool can be funded by private contributions. Or maybe free tickets to concerts, or free music or movie downloads.
Why can't we do something to increase voting?
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19 replies, 5674 views
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Author | Time | Post |
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Cicada | Aug 2016 | OP |
liberal N proud | Aug 2016 | #1 | |
anoNY42 | Aug 2016 | #4 | |
Cicada | Aug 2016 | #9 | |
liberal N proud | Aug 2016 | #11 | |
Cicada | Aug 2016 | #16 | |
Stinky The Clown | Aug 2016 | #2 | |
Cicada | Aug 2016 | #7 | |
Stinky The Clown | Aug 2016 | #10 | |
Cicada | Aug 2016 | #15 | |
Stinky The Clown | Aug 2016 | #18 | |
HereSince1628 | Aug 2016 | #3 | |
Person 2713 | Aug 2016 | #5 | |
Cicada | Aug 2016 | #8 | |
Brickbat | Aug 2016 | #6 | |
greymattermom | Aug 2016 | #12 | |
Younemeen | Aug 2016 | #13 | |
Nye Bevan | Aug 2016 | #14 | |
Cicada | Aug 2016 | #17 | |
pinboy3niner | Aug 2016 | #19 |
Response to Cicada (Original post)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:47 AM
liberal N proud (59,150 posts)
1. I believe that if it were done by either candidate or party it would be illegal
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 09:00 AM
anoNY42 (670 posts)
4. I think the OP means that the government should give them out
to encourage people to come to the polls, not the individual parties or candidates (you are right, that would be highly illegal).
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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:17 AM
Cicada (4,518 posts)
9. What law is violated?
Every voter gets the prize, not just those who vote for X.
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Response to Cicada (Reply #9)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:19 AM
liberal N proud (59,150 posts)
11. Vote Buying
Any reward given to a person for voting in a particular way or for not voting can be called vote buying. Vote buying is a corrupt election practice. A vote buying bribe is that having a monetary value. The practice of vote buying is banned in United States. Vote buying is a threat to the conduct of fair elections. In the U.S. vote buying is an offence when a person knowingly or willfully gives false information or conspires with another individual for the purpose of encouraging his false registration to vote or illegal voting, or pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting shall be fined not more than $ 10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. This provision shall only by applicable to general, special, or primary elections (42 USCS § 1973i(c)).
There are state specific laws that ban vote buying. The following is an example of a state statute (Kentucky) on vote buying: KRS § 117.030 (2) provides that the State Board of Elections shall provide for the conspicuous placement of signs at all precinct polling places, which shall state that vote buying and selling are illegal and shall state the penalties for such acts. http://definitions.uslegal.com/v/vote-buying/ Don't think it matters if it is one or all voters, making it illegal protects the system. |
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #11)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 02:10 PM
Cicada (4,518 posts)
16. I read your link. What I propose is not banned.
Vote buying is illegal. Vote buying is defined as pay for not voting or as pay for voting in a particular way. I propose pay for voting, not for voting in a particular way. But I should have made clear that I suggest a law be passed to give all voters a reward. The funding of the reward could be provided from private donations.
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Response to Cicada (Original post)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:51 AM
Stinky The Clown (64,446 posts)
2. Oh good lord
"Here's twenny bux. Vote for me, da clown."
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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #2)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:14 AM
Cicada (4,518 posts)
7. Here's twenty dollars for everyone who votes
Would increase how many vote. And if more vote then the will of the people will be better reflected in who is elected. Isn't that a good thing?
All voters would get a prize no matter who they voted for. It's note vote for me, it is vote for whoever you want. |
Response to Cicada (Reply #7)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:18 AM
Stinky The Clown (64,446 posts)
10. Tell ya what, go take a high school civics class and then get back to me
What you propose is illegal.
But thanks for playing the game. The home version will be mailed to you within 10 days. |
Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #10)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 02:04 PM
Cicada (4,518 posts)
15. A law would be passed to provide this voting prize
Obviously repubs would vote no but in CA and other places it could pass
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Response to Cicada (Reply #15)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 02:58 PM
Stinky The Clown (64,446 posts)
18. yea'okay
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Response to Cicada (Original post)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:55 AM
HereSince1628 (36,063 posts)
3. Yes, because centuries of struggle toward universal suffrage aren't enough
to motivate citizens to vote.
Why not focus on removing barriers to voting while encouraging parties to nominate candidates who motivate turnout? |
Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #3)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 10:21 AM
Person 2713 (3,263 posts)
5. First move on all voter supression to increase voting you are correct Offer not the lotto but early
voting in all states. Offer longer hours and enough poll places provided with the cash that would be spent on prizes . Make voter registration easier
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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #3)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:15 AM
Cicada (4,518 posts)
8. Why not both?
Response to Cicada (Original post)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 10:49 AM
Brickbat (19,339 posts)
6. Automatic registration and vote-by-mail would do a lot.
But when voting rates go up, Democrats win, so don't hold your breath.
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Response to Cicada (Original post)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:21 AM
greymattermom (5,687 posts)
12. Give voters something.
Proof that you voted gets you a quicker tax refund? Or maybe businesses could use the I Voted sticker to give out a free something.
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Response to Cicada (Original post)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:28 AM
Younemeen (58 posts)
13. you're already a winner
when your candidate wins it.
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Response to Cicada (Original post)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:30 AM
Nye Bevan (25,406 posts)
14. You want to induce people to vote who wouldn't vote unless they are bribed?
Wouldn't that just result in more ignorant, ill-informed people voting?
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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #14)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 02:20 PM
Cicada (4,518 posts)
17. Yes it would. I want everyone to vote, not just an elite.
Look, I'm a snob. I am not really interested in kissing anyone who does not have at least one advanced degree, for instance. But I don't think I should have more of a say in the laws we have than even the lowliest Republican scum. I believe democracy, despite its obvious flaws, is better than the alternatives.
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Response to Cicada (Reply #17)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 03:03 PM
pinboy3niner (53,339 posts)
19. Perhaps you should set up a kissing booth as a voting reward
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