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Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:17 AM

Will Lochte and the other swimmers have the medals taken away after they fabricated their story?

I feel they should lose their medals. They lied and put people's lives at stake. They are an embarrassment for all the athletes who did their best in a world where lying is the way of life and the consequences are minimal.

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Reply Will Lochte and the other swimmers have the medals taken away after they fabricated their story? (Original post)
imanamerican63 Aug 2016 OP
liberal N proud Aug 2016 #1
tonyt53 Aug 2016 #2
stopbush Aug 2016 #3
Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2016 #4
backscatter712 Aug 2016 #12
B2G Aug 2016 #23
anneboleyn Aug 2016 #29
OBenario Aug 2016 #38
LisaL Aug 2016 #40
Takket Aug 2016 #5
Bluzmann57 Aug 2016 #6
ksoze Aug 2016 #7
milestogo Aug 2016 #8
SoCalMusicLover Aug 2016 #27
milestogo Aug 2016 #34
treestar Aug 2016 #9
Throd Aug 2016 #10
global1 Aug 2016 #11
backscatter712 Aug 2016 #13
yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #20
Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #24
SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #31
anneboleyn Aug 2016 #32
LisaL Aug 2016 #39
SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2016 #30
anneboleyn Aug 2016 #33
EL34x4 Aug 2016 #14
Stubborn Aug 2016 #15
Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #16
Stubborn Aug 2016 #17
Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #18
imanamerican63 Aug 2016 #19
LWolf Aug 2016 #21
panader0 Aug 2016 #22
Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #25
MyNameGoesHere Aug 2016 #26
Greybnk48 Aug 2016 #28
taught_me_patience Aug 2016 #35
oberliner Aug 2016 #36
mentalsolstice Aug 2016 #37

Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:20 AM

1. Probably the last Olympics where they preform

And other consequences to come.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:22 AM

2. While I think they are shitheads, they did win the medals prior to doing their vandalism.

 

So, in my opinion only, they should keep the medals.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:23 AM

3. No.

How can you take away medals for a relay race unless you take them away from the entire team?

That, and the IOC would think long and hard before doing anything to piss off the USA, which is a major financial supporter of their events.
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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:34 AM

4. Whose lives did they put at stake?

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:53 AM

12. Lochte and his fellow douchebags did get in a brawl...

People could have gotten hurt.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:31 PM

23. Have you seen video of this?

 

Because supposedly it exists, but I haven't seen it posted anywhere.

They came out amazing unscathed for brawling with armed off duty cops, didn't they? Not a scratch, not a torn piece of clothing, nothing.

I don't buy that at all.
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Response to B2G (Reply #23)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 02:56 PM

29. Exactly, and the Rio officials confirmed they were held at gunpoint AND paid money!

Lochte may be a jerk and pompous and an ass etc but I honestly don't get the rabid hostility towards him with the media and everyone else hating him, despite the fact that the Rio officials confirmed that the swimmers WERE held at gunpoint by the security guard and paid money (they can be seen holding their hands up and paying money on the video). Of course a crucial three minutes of the video was "edited" by the police before it was shown to the media, which the police chief stated had happened for "investigation" purposes.

Jimmy Feigen has agreed to "donate" $11,000 to a Rio charity so that he can leave the country. Can you imagine what the world media would be saying if the United States detained Olympic athletes from another country for allegedly vandalizing a bathroom, a misdemeanor for which they already paid money ($150 to the security guard who held them at gunpoint),and if we forced one of them to "donate" $11,000 before he could return to his home country? That STINKS of corruption. But the rabid hatred and screaming that the swimmers should have their medals stripped and be scorned and punished for the rest of their lives seems rather odd to me given the ugliness of the entire situation.

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Response to anneboleyn (Reply #29)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 07:29 PM

38. I know... it's terrible.

 

You know what the American media shoud do? Bashing Brazil...

Oh... nevermind... I remember they've been doing that for the last 14 years.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 07:35 PM

40. What brawl?

Apparently they cracked a plastic sign and that what the damage was.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:38 AM

5. No. The IOC does not police athlete's personal lives. Nor should they.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:39 AM

6. If so, when does Hope Solo get disciplined?

She is a disgrace to the USA Women's soccer team and to the USA in general and should be booted off the team immediately for her comments about the Swedish team, which won fair and square. Not only that, she is a domestic abuser. So she should be disqualified for that just as any male would have been (rightfully so).

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:43 AM

7. Why not waterboard them - they're swimmers after all

No medal taken away - its an embarrassment but no one lost a life or limb.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:44 AM

8. Did OJ get his Heisman trophy revoked?

He took 2 lives.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 02:24 PM

27. Tried & Acquitted

 

The killer or killers are still out there on some golf course. If OJ were not in prison, he would be searching for them right now.

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Response to SoCalMusicLover (Reply #27)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:09 PM

34. And when was the trial for Lochte and the other swimmers?

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:45 AM

9. Why they are not suddenly not the winners of those events

and they will have whatever other consequences legally that exist.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:46 AM

10. They shouldn't.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:49 AM

11. I'm Sure The U.S. Olympic Committee Will Mete Out Discipline For These Guys....

I don't think we'll see any of them in a future Olympic competition. They embarrassed themselves, their parents, their coaches, all the U.S. athletes competing in Rio and disgraced the U.S.

This stunt really took the edge off of the great medal count that the U.S. generated.

And I'm sure that Lochte will not be getting any lucrative endorsement deals.

Maybe - Trump should hire him.

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Response to global1 (Reply #11)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:55 AM

13. They should be fined at minimum by the IOC, and made to pay restitution.

I'm not sure what penalties are available. Kicking them off the team, fines, but yeah, Lochte and co. should be punished harshly. They're a real embarrassment.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #13)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:14 PM

20. Rio forced one swimmer to give 11,000 dollars in order to get his passport back

 

Brazil is handling this horribly.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #24)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:00 PM

31. Who cares who he was forced to give it to?

Extortion is extortion.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #24)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:02 PM

32. Oh please! A "donation" of $11,000 (!) to a "charity" see he can leave the country?! If the U.S.

pulled a stunt like this the international media would be screaming, and rightly so, about blatant corruption. I don't care where they claim the money is going. Do you really think an $11,000 "donation" is appropriate for an alleged misdemeanor act of vandalism (since they were actually held at gunpoint AND paid the security guard $150?!) -- before he is allowed to leave the country?

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Response to anneboleyn (Reply #32)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 07:34 PM

39. ITA.

This guy obviously is able to pay $11,000 to leave the country, but what about some poor schmuck without that kind of money? Per tmz, damage was a small crack on plastic sign. $11,000 could buy a lot of plastic signs.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #20)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:00 PM

30. Yeah, extortion must be a way of life there n/t

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #30)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:03 PM

33. Seriously. Lochte is an ass. But why people are excusing Rio for blatant extortion is beyond me

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 11:58 AM

14. No.

 

Olympic medals are awarded for athletic achievement, not personal conduct.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:02 PM

15. This thread is an embarrassment to DU. nt

 

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Response to Stubborn (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:02 PM

16. This.

Thank you.

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Response to Ace Rothstein (Reply #16)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:05 PM

17. ...

 

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Response to Stubborn (Reply #17)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:06 PM

18. ...

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Response to Stubborn (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:07 PM

19. Wow!

I asked a question! If you don't like it? Oh well! I won't call you an embarrassment, but hope you have a great day!

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:18 PM

21. They earned the medals.

I don't think they should lose what they earned. There should be consequences, yes, but consequences related to the offense.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:24 PM

22. Swimmers get most of their money from endorsements.

Lochte, being the most well known, will lose quite a bit of money.
His rep is shot.
The medals were already won when their national embarrassment
took place. After all the fine athletes and sportsmanship at the Olympics
it is a shame to have these drunken boys cast a shadow on the rest.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 01:01 PM

25. Arbitrary and ridiculous. They earned medals in competition.

being a bad person doesn't make the Croatian swimmer faster.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 01:03 PM

26. Punish them for being the stereotypical ugly American?

Lords no, they just got positions in the tRump campaign.
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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 02:28 PM

28. They won their medals fair and square.

The punishment should be something similar to what would happen to a celebrity tourist; someone who would get a lot of press. But the medals are theirs no matter what.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:21 PM

35. "They lied and put people's lives at stake" - Hyperbole much?

 

It was a minor incident. How about a punishment of cleaning up the piss, public apology, fixing the door, and a fine of $150? Brazil's 11,000 fine is more disgusting than the incident.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:26 PM

36. It is bizarre that anyone would think their medals should be taken away

 

Endorsement deals, yes. But medals?

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri Aug 19, 2016, 04:39 PM

37. Lochte won his medal for being a part of a relay. What about Phelps?

Phelps and two other men were also on that team. If Lochte were stripped of his medal, would they also be disqualified?

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