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Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:06 PM

 

Is Trump's letter from his doctor about his superman health a fake? It may well be:

A fake in the sense that Trump wrote it and his sycophant doc signed it:

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On December 4, 2015, the Trump campaign released…something.






It purports to be a medical letter, but it is one of the most ridiculous documents ever to emerge in any political campaign. First, the letterhead is in the same font as the letter, which appears to have been created using Microsoft Word. The signature from the doctor is several inches past the signature line—the result you might get if the document had been signed as a blank and filled in later. The letterhead includes a Gmail address—something doctors tell me is extremely unusual, since doctors do not want patients contacting them directly by email as a substitute for scheduling an appointment.

There is also a website listed, but if you follow the URL (haroldbornsteinmd.com), it takes you to cdn.freefarcy.com, a blank page that asks if you want to upload an update to a Flash program onto your computer (the domain name, freefarcy.com, is still for sale. No, I can’t explain that.) If you decline, it does so anyway and, based on the response of the security system on my computer, the “program” on the doctor’s supposed website is a virus.

Then, there is the doctor who allegedly signed this document. His name is Harold N. Bornstein, and he is a gastroenterologist. This kind of physician is a specialist who treats the digestive tract. This is not an internist, who is trained specifically in providing full histories and physicals of patients. The letter signed by Dr. Bornstein, who did not return an email from Newsweek seeking comment, says that he has treated Trump since 1980. However, it mentions no history of the gastrointestinal problem that led the Republican candidate for president to seek out his help. In fact, the letter says Trump has had no significant medical problems. So why has he been seeing a gastroenterologist for over 35 years?

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read:http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-health-doctor-490836

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:14 PM

1. Unequivocally Trump like

Astonishingly unbelievable.
Extraordinary

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:54 PM

27. Have you seen the "doctor" lately? I mean have you seen his photo:

 



This is the guy who writes Trump's prescriptions ....

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #27)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:33 PM

51. Reminds me of John Lennon......

gone to seed.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #27)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:11 PM

75. it's truly bizarre

 

this whole campaign, hard to know how much of a joke it is

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #27)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:42 PM

101. Looks like 'Boris The Animal'

in 'Men in Black 3' but more disturbing!

Probably takes more prescriptions than he writes.



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Response to Coyotl (Reply #27)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:11 PM

108. Jesus, I thought that was a joke! All photos of him look like a stoner!

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #27)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:28 AM

115. Is this also Putin's doctor? (NT)

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #27)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:27 AM

118. Is that Trump's doctor, or his meth dealer?

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #27)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:05 AM

136. WTH? Dr Feelgood?

Well, I gotta hand it to the good doctor, at least he hasn't killed Trump... Yet...

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:22 PM

43. yep, that's what stuck out for me, too.

I'm surprised he didn't use "tremendous"

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 05:06 PM

145. More evidence that he wrote it...

Look at his choice of words when describing his temperament:

"I think I have the best temperament or certainly one of the best temperaments of anybody that’s ever run for the office of president. Ever," he told the crowd today. "Because I have a winning temperament. I know how to win."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-best-temperaments-presidential-candidate/story?id=41003314

Compare with this from the purported letter from his doctor:

“If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest person ever elected to the presidency.”

I rest my case.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:14 PM

2. I wish my blood pressure was that low

But every time I turn on the tv I see Don the con

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:18 PM

5. lol!

naturally, anyone who comes in contact with Mr Trump will have higher blood pressure than him...

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:42 PM

14. My blood pressure IS that low, and holds steady. But I suppose if anybody could boil it up,

it'd be The Donald and all thoughts of the horrors he would cause if he were President and had the nuclear codes at his disposal.

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Response to calimary (Reply #14)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:01 PM

69. If his blood pressure were that low, why would any

Doctor have him on statins?

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #69)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:47 PM

91. Well...

One in four Americans over the age of 45 are now taking a statin drug, despite the fact that there are over 900 studies proving their adverse effects, which run the gamut from muscle problems to diabetes and increased cancer risk.
Statins deplete your body of CoQ10, which can have devastating results. If you take statin drugs without taking CoQ10, your health is at serious risk. If you have symptoms of statin damage, such as muscle pain, take anywhere from 200 to 500 mg of CoQ10 or ubiquinol, which is the reduced form. Ubiquinol is the recommended form if you’re over the age of 25. For preventative use, take around 100-200 mg.
Statins also impair the function of all sterols, including cholesterol and vitamin D (which is similar to cholesterol and is produced from cholesterol in your skin), all your sex hormones, cortisone, the dolichols, which are involved in keeping the membranes inside your cells healthy.
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So basically, he's a mess!

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Response to tavernier (Reply #91)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 07:49 PM

104. Sheesh - what a statistic.

That's terrible! My blood pressure is so low that, one time, when I went to donate blood, they almost sent me away. Because they couldn't find my blood pressure! Took three different nurses trying to get a reading on me before they finally found one. They kept joking with me - "are you sure you're not dead?" Since it was fairly early on a Saturday morning, I responded - "well, no, but kinda feels like it."

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:15 PM

3. LOL - "healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency".

A legitimate physician would never write such a thing. Either it's fake, or "Dr. Bornstein" needs to be disbarred for making such a ludicrous statement.

Either way, it's a big steaming pile of horse shit.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:49 PM

19. That is the Trump "giveaway"

not just healthy but the healthiest ever in the world of all time...

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Response to Avalux (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:51 PM

24. I agree, that is just not med speak from a legit doctor.

I want to see a psychological report from a proven legit psychiatrist.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:14 PM

37. Avalux:

Are you sure this doctor hasn't examined every President that has ever served? I'm just saying, that's what some people say, believe me...............

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #37)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:48 PM

57. Trump speech - hilarious! And what about Obama? Hello?

Of course if we make that comparison, it will surely set the Little Blowhard off on a twitter rant.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:27 PM

44. His health is "astonishingly excellent"

a double positive typical of Trumpaganda.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:33 PM

49. That was the line that sealed my opinion as well.

A doctor would never make such a ridiculous assertion. It sounds more like Trump-talk. Also, I don't believe his blood pressure is that low unless he's taking antihypertensive medication. I simply don't believe anything in the letter.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:15 PM

4. Anything is possible in Trumpland...

...phony doctor letters, phony spokespeople, phony campaign managers...that's why some little part of me still wonders about the Andy Kaufman scenario...

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:20 PM

6. A doctor didn't write that letter. It's got Trump's tiny fingerprints all over it.

He or one of his minions managed to get a signature (they probably bought it), which doesn't line up with the printed signature block, and he created the letter around it. No actual doctor would issue a medical report that used those Trumpian words.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:30 PM

9. "...tiny fingerprints..."

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:49 PM

20. +1 and

 

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:31 PM

47. but, but...

on the reverse side the doctor says that Mr. Trump has the largest johnson he's ever examined.

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Response to Ligyron (Reply #47)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:32 PM

48. That would prove conclusively that the letter is a fake.

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Response to Ligyron (Reply #47)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:13 PM

76. And that the dog really did eat his homework....

It's like a he's remembering how to forge letters from his mother to his 5th grade teacher.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:53 PM

94. Love the tiny fingerprints.

Maybe it's like Dorian Grey except the more he lies and bloviates, his hands get smaller and smaller.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:21 PM

7. To Whom IT May Concern:

Donald Trump's doctor claims he's in perfect health and has never touched alcohol, but Twitter disagrees

... since the release of the letter, social media users have taken the opportunity to criticize the claims and post photos of the GOP frontrunner drinking what appears to be alcohol.

One person on Twitter posted a photo of President Barack Obama playing basketball, implying that he was a healthier man than Trump.

While Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush and Chris Christie have released medical records, the Trump campaign had been holding out, with Trump both saying he was incredibly healthy – pointing to the fact that his parents had lived so long – but also bragging about his manly diet of bacon and steaks.

Trump's doctor said Trump had 'no history of ever using alcohol or tobacco products', but actual medical records were not included in the announcement.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:23 PM

8. Astonishingly excellent?


Yeah, Trump wrote that.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:32 PM

10. totally false.....

forged, or even worse, the good doctor had the paper put in front of him and he signed it. That hot mess was written by Trump, in the usual Trump-ian hyperbole, and without a shred of fact or proof. And that's the only medical anything anyone will see too. No doctor, even the most rural country doc, would ever put out a mess like that. Let alone a Manhattan MD.

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Response to dawnie51 (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:38 PM

11. Hey, no knocking rural country docs

 

My doc now is good. My prior doc, who decided to quit a couple of years ago, was fantastic. My orthopedist when I smashed my leg up and required 3 surgeries was amazing (hey, you get a lot of practice as an orthopedist if you work right by Stowe Mountain).

There are a lot of excellent rural docs.

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Response to cali (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:47 PM

17. You are correct...

bad example. No physician period would have written that letter.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:39 PM

12. No doctor would write

'Only positive results'.

It would be something like 'unremarkable' or 'within normal range'. Positive results means he has something wrong.

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Response to canetoad (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:50 PM

23. good point

I've ready many doctor's reports, and that is not in doctor language.

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Response to canetoad (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:18 PM

41. "Negative is good?"

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Response to canetoad (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:35 PM

52. Maybe that's the dr's version of secret code.

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Response to canetoad (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:11 PM

74. Exactly. If your rapid strep test is...

...positive, you have strep. If your urine culture is positive, you have a UTI. If your pregnancy test is positive, you are preggers. If your drug screen is positive, you've been using. If your TB test is positive, you are not a happy camper. If your chest Xray is positive, there is something in your lungs that shouldn't be there.

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Response to canetoad (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 02:08 AM

123. Precisely, you nailed it

I've read a lot of doctor-generated documentation, and that's exactly what they say. I'd be shocked if a real MD wrote this. More like Trump wrote it and his paid-off doc signed it.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:40 PM

13. I wonder how much Bornstein

got paid for his signature. Obviously no doctor wrote that letter.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:54 PM

61. And wouldn't that be a breach of medical ethics?

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #61)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:51 PM

93. If it isn't, it should be.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #61)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 07:10 PM

102. You would think so

Of course, Trump doesn't have dealings with too many ethical people.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:44 PM

15. We don’t just need to see Trump’s taxes — we need a real medical report on him

Donald Trump isn’t just a bloviating fraud, he might truly be physically unfit to be president

SOPHIA MCCLENNEN
AUG 10, 2016

There has been a recent flurry of news media coverage that has focused on whether or not Trump might not be well, whether he might suffer from dementia or Alzheimer’s, and whether or not his thin skin and uncontrollable temper might be a problem for a president. Even more disturbing we learned of his inability to understand why we should not nuke Europe. Then–after all that–we get the frightening and unhinged 2nd Amendment comment. Clearly we have reason to question whether or not he has the ability to do the job.

Anticipating that concern, Trump released a letter from his physician back in December attesting that“if elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” When the letter was first released many laughed it off. It seemed like yet another sign of a bombastic and surreal campaign. But now that we are only months away from the general election it is time to return to that letter and wonder if it is further proof that Trump is scamming the US public.

-snip-

The letter does not uphold even the flimsiest medical standard and it uses hyperbolic language that has no connection at all to facts. Aside from making the outrageous and completely unverifiable claim that Trump would be the healthiest president ever, it makes other odd statements. We read, for instance, that he has had a medical exam that revealed “only positive results.” In the medical community a “positive result” means a bad prognosis. What we want are “normal” results. The letter uses the word “excellent” twice in relation to medical tests—another oddity since again the standard would be to say “normal.” The letter also states that Trump’s only medical issue was an appendectomy but there is no mention of the bone spur, which kept him from serving in Viet Nam.

Apart from the lack of scientific rigor, the letter starts with “To Whom My Concern.” It is worth pausing to worry that the physician who has been taking care of Trump since 1980 has such a poor command of the English language. In fact, the language in the letter mirrors the same sort of bombastic language common to Trump-speak. The writing was so bizarre that it led Robert Reich to wonder if it had been written by Trump himself.

read more: http://www.salon.com/2016/08/10/we-do-not-just-need-to-see-trumps-taxes-we-need-a-real-medical-report-on-him/

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Response to napkinz (Reply #15)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 04:37 AM

126. Yeah a letter from a shrink

Yeah but a medical report from a physician is the wrong type of doctor in my opinion. Lets get one from a psychologist.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:45 PM

16. Considering that he ALWAYS accuses his opponent of those things HE IS MOST GUILY of...

 

you are damn right it is a bought and paid for bullshit opinion.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:48 PM

18. I thought it was bogus from the beginning. No actual M.D. would use superlatives like

"astonishingly excellent", "health is extraordinary", or, my personal favorite "healthiest person ever..."

Give me a break. This was Don the Con pretending to be his doctor instead of his assistant. It's childish and reminds me of a kid forging a note from mom to explain why little Donny wasn't in 3rd period Study Hall.

Pathetic.

On edit: I just thought of something--why would a GI specialist be giving him a complete physical instead of a GP or FP physician?

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Response to catbyte (Reply #18)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:34 PM

113. You KNOW why a GI specialist is giving Trump complete physicals

A complete asshole like Trump needs to visit a doctor that specializes in that part of the anatomy.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:49 PM

21. On webmd.com, Dr. Bornstein only gets........

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Response to mrmpa (Reply #21)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:01 PM

31. He does treat anal fissures, though.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #31)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:59 PM

67. :-) he obviously didn't treat THIS one effectively.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #67)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:16 PM

79. HA!



Gold medal to you for the best post of the week!

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #79)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:18 PM

81. Why thank you!

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Response to mrmpa (Reply #21)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:06 PM

34. The page has been pulled! . . ."404" . . . n/t

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Response to annabanana (Reply #34)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:29 PM

45. That's interesting........

it was available when I posted. I guess the Doc is having some problems.

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Response to mrmpa (Reply #45)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:31 PM

46. The information is still there but you have to start over

from the "find a doctor" page.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:50 PM

22. If its a free Gmail account its not HIPPA compliant

Thats a huge no-no.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:53 PM

25. Rumor has it

 

That Trump was prescribed Meth for many years, which could be causing his personality disorder.

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Response to trev343 (Reply #25)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:15 PM

39. How Hitleresque

And clears up a lot of things if true.

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Response to AwakeAtLast (Reply #39)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:37 PM

53. You nailed it.

Hitler was claimed to be a vegetarian, celibate, a teetotaler, an "aryan superman" immune to the faults and desires of the common person. He was none of those and his life ended with being a total drug addict. I'm no doctor, but Dullard does not seem to be in good health. He is overweight and wears increasingly ill fitting suits to try to cover it up. He looks puffy and blotchy. He seems to have labored breathing. His gait is unsteady. I think he has advanced cardiovascular problems. Melania is just marking time to this toad drops dead.

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Response to Mendocino (Reply #53)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:49 PM

60. His doctor said Trump 'will be healthiest individual ever elected' president

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #60)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:06 PM

73. You goofed, posting pictures of golfer John Daly...

....oh sorry, you didn't.

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Response to Mendocino (Reply #73)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:23 PM

84. If Daly had an orange mullet

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Response to Mendocino (Reply #73)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 05:20 AM

129. John Daly would never wear such obnoxious slacks! (n/t)

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #60)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:15 PM

78. He does not look particularly healthy.

With as angry as he is all the time, I am dubious about the quoted blood pressure reading.

And that middle picture - Trump is a big ass, and he has a big ass.

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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #78)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:23 PM

85. Exactly!

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #60)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:46 PM

142. In fact, his BMI is even greater than his IQ

Must be due to all the taco salads he consumes.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index

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Response to Fritz Walter (Reply #142)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:54 PM

143. Ha! I'm sure it is!

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Response to trev343 (Reply #25)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:33 PM

50. Where did you hear that rumor?

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #50)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:44 PM

56. On the Internet, of course

So it must be true.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:54 PM

26. An obvious fake playing to his cult. And smokescreen for Hannity's attack on HRC.

Ailes advising and Hannity the water boy.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:55 PM

28. He's kidding, right??

That is laughable.

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #28)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:04 PM

33. Laughable it is. Kidding he is not.

 

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:57 PM

29. Seems rather effusive/adoring of Trump

:-/

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:59 PM

30. Does he have regenerative blood like Khan on Star Trek? No?

Then get the fuck out!

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:03 PM

32. there is NO physician, NO veterinarian, no nurse nor dentist who would not know POSITIVE results

INDICATE ABNORMALITIES. The language used in medicine is that NEGATIVE results are normal, not Positive.

This is pure BS and clearly a letter crafted by a medical ILLITERATE.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:09 PM

35. probably not fake. The 'rich & famous' like a Doctor who enables them & are also 'rich & famous'

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #35)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:49 PM

59. Probably fake. The long-dead father's name is still listed on the letterhead. n/t

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:13 PM

36. Is it a "law" that a candidate release a medical status documents?

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:15 PM

38. As fake as the Meredith McIver letter

Which, by the way, NEVER apologizes to FLOTUS Michelle Obama. These fake documents are so sycophantic, so fawning and so unprofessional that I wonder why anybody takes them seriously.

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Response to oldtime dfl_er (Reply #38)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:13 PM

77. good reminder of that obvious fake!

 

his whole campaign is too unbelievably bizarre.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:15 PM

40. statin = high cholesterol, or a risk (like diabetes) for high cholesterol

Same for the aspirin, although since that is over the counter he could be self-medicating.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:19 PM

42. 'astonishingly excellent' sounds like it was written by dr trump

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Response to spanone (Reply #42)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:06 PM

72. Exactly..I read medical records all day long and

doctors simply don't write shit like that.

Sounds just like Trump though.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:38 PM

54. No, his doctor was being sarcastic.

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Response to ThoughtCriminal (Reply #54)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:20 PM

83. Ha-HA! ^ This!

Bravo!

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:39 PM

55. He Cannot Say That

Even if that is Donald Trump's real doctor he cannot say that Trump will be the healthiest person elected President. Since he was not the doctor for every President he does not know whether or not Trump is healthier than the other Presidents. In addition, I would go as far as to say Trump is not healthier President Obama. President Obama is much younger and as far as I know works out much more than Donald Trump.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #55)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:57 PM

65. And obviously the dead ones did not give permission

for their private records to be released, even if the physician HAD examined some of them.

Trump is not a good liar if his lies are so obvious.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:48 PM

58. And why would the physician's DEAD FATHER still be listed on the letterhead?

The letter is a fake, and this has been clear since the day it was first released. I'm glad the story has come up again.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #58)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:00 PM

96. That could be for legal reasons

As a medical corporation. My childhood doctor's name was on the door long after he passed.

A better question might be why was Don seeing a specialist in gynecological oncology? Is there something he's not telling us?

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:55 PM

62. Well it turns out Trump lied about finishing top of his class @ Wharton too

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028096415

Melania college degree ... lie
Trump U .... a lie
Trump Institue ... a lie
The Trump Network .... a lie
Trump condos .... a lie
Trump steaks ... a big old con
Trump's VA golf course and "the River of Blood" civil war battle ..... a lie
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/us/politics/in-renovation-of-golf-club-donald-trump-also-dressed-up-history.html

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:56 PM

63. If his lab results are so...

...astonishingly excellent," why is he on a statin?

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:57 PM

64. The bombastic language in the letter says that Trump wrote it.

The whole letter sounds just like him.

And why is he taking a statin?

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:59 PM

66. Absolute twaddle.

The fact that anyone falls for this or any of Trump's blowhardy prattle is a testament to the pathetic lack of logical thinking skills among the masses.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:00 PM

68. I still don't understand why this in itself didn't get Trump laughed out of the GOP primary.

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Response to tanyev (Reply #68)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:38 PM

90. It was released in December, when the GOP was absolutely, positively, 100% sure he'd never win....

...so why bother kicking him out? At this point, however, any sane republicans who haven't sprinted over to Hillary are either getting very drunk or thinking of slitting their wrists. If Trump hasn't embarrassed them into a hole yet, the resurfacing of this letter will. It's so amateur, so ridiculous, so amazingly stupid! And there's no escaping it now that Trump and Hannity have made Hillary's health a "thing." They've invited every news outlet, pundit, democrat, comedian or internet wit to ruthlessly hammer and mock this letter, Trump's doctor, Trump's health, Trump, Trump voters, his surrogates, and the RNC.

This should fuel the Democratic campaign across the nation for at least this week if not the rest of August. I wonder what Trump et al will give us next?

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:01 PM

70. Watch him when gets off a plane he has a death grip on railing with head down to see the next step

 

as he slowing plods down, he is a an unhealthy old man. By comparison watch Obama dance down the middle of stairs waving to the crowd with head up and moving in a robust manner! Despite the age difference, ASSWIPE is in poor condition, I'm 70, conditioned and I don't use the hand rail and can confidently walk down the middle of steps. This is dead give away, if he has that much trouble walking down a flight of steps, he must really struggle just to walk up one flight. Get Hannity on it, he has all the medical expertise necessary to make a fair and balanced pronouncement on tubby's health.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:03 PM

71. And don't forget that Trump originally trumpeted the name of the DEAD FATHER, Jacob,

as the doctor who wrote the report.

How could Trump forget that the doctor who has been treating him since 1980 is named HAROLD, not Jacob?

http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/14/10123368/donald-trump-health-doctor-report-heaven-protect-me



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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:17 PM

80. Physical strength and stamina are extraordinary. :D :D :D :D

Yeah...fucking RIGHT!!!

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:18 PM

82. It's not fake

Donald J. Trump has the most best, most spectacular health of any human ever recorded and would have liked to participate in the current Olympics but his Presidential campaign has rendered him busy. His glowing skin tone indicates health of the highest caliber and his eyes reflect extremely high intelligence. --Trump spokesman John Miller

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:27 PM

86. But what about his baby hands doc? His tiny little fingers, they are like vienna sausages!

 

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:28 PM

87. Apparently this "Doctor" wrote his own review

-Harold bornstein md in 101east 78th street nyc 10075 | Jan 22, 2016
Extrairdinary


And no, I didn't misspell extraordinary.

This "Doctor" also was sued for over-medicating a colonoscopy patient in 2000. It was settled in 2006.

The doctor who gave Donald Trump an outrageously enthusiastic health assessment was sued for allowing a colonoscopy patient to die in 2000.

Court papers filed in Brooklyn Supreme Court charged that Dr. Harold Bornstein was performing the procedure on 57-year-old Vincent Pollifrone when the patient was “improperly medicated” and died of a drug overdose that could have been prevented.


This medical report is phony as a six dollar bill.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:34 PM

88. Nurse here for 40 years. Document is as phony

as Trump University diploma. I've worked with hundreds of docs, and not ONE would ever write a paper so silly and sophomoric. I'm surprised he didn't sign it "Mr. Trumps Phyzishun."

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Response to tavernier (Reply #88)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:50 PM

92. I'm not in the medical field

But I has access to ALL my medical records which includes letters sent to my GP Doctor. Nothing comes close to this phony letter.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #88)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 07:51 PM

105. Signed, Epstein's mother.

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Response to JBoy (Reply #105)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 07:55 PM

106. Zactly.

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Response to JBoy (Reply #105)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 03:45 AM

125. LOL, saved me from posting it ! nt

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:37 PM

89. It is dangerously shameful that the press doesn't care about this fraud

being perpetrated with such an obvious fraudulent "report". If only we could make them investigate this blatant in-your-face bullshit. I consider them Don The Con's accomplices.

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Response to Pathwalker (Reply #89)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:09 PM

107. Check

 

Let's push this.

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Response to Pathwalker (Reply #89)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:48 AM

119. This thread exists because the press is investigating this fraud: Newsweek, Salon. Read OP. nt

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:55 PM

95. Lucky for us that he released this back in December....

...before his campaign had gained people who *might* have created something more legitimate looking. I mean, could anything look more amateur? Trump REALLY must have created it himself! As I said in another post, it reads like Trump flashing back to faking a note from his mother to his elementary school teacher. I can even hear him saying to his wife as he types it up in bed, "This'll be easy. I use to create fake letters like these all the time....won't take but a few minutes. You just throw in a few terms that sound medical, like 'statin' and cardiovascular. No one will know the difference."

And I'm sure this would fool those voting for him, even most of the American public, which is all he thought he needed to fool while in the primaries.

But now he's up for president and if he's bringing up Hillary's health, then there's no way this letter isn't going to come back to haunt him. And it can be seen not only instantly as a fraud, but ridiculously so from so many different angles: From any college kid whose going to roll his eyes at the Trump's inability to mask his use of a word processing program, to doctors, to journalists, to, well, frankly, anyone with half a brain.

As Trump would put it...the letter is a disaster.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:03 PM

97. It also says

"To Whom My Concern"

"astonishingly excellent" (not exactly an objective medical phrase-- lousy writing, to boot)


Along with all the other things you pointed out!!

This letter is phony as the day is long!!

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:10 PM

98. No doctor would say

he lost "at least" 15 pounds. And, most doctors spell it "orthopaedic".

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:17 PM

99. I don't think the guy ever sleeps...

and he is not in good health because of sleep deprivation. It clouds the mind and limits the ability to reason in a responsible way.

There are probably other conditions that we do not know about and will not know about because of his tendency to hide everything from the public.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:32 PM

100. Don't gastroenterologists do colonscopies?

Have they found his head yet?

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Response to central scrutinizer (Reply #100)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 02:00 PM

144. Nope.

But they did find the keys to Vladimir Putin's limo in the middle of the transverse colon.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 07:29 PM

103. meanwhile trump is attacking Hillary's health

Hillary health myth: From Twitter theories to a Trump speech

In the 2016 presidential campaign, the line between fringe theory and stump speech material is blurring.

In less than a month, unsubstantiated claims about Hillary Clinton's health have gone from chatter on Twitter to an attack line by Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

Without offering any evidence, Mr Trump said in Ohio on Monday that she "lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on Isis [Islamic State] and all of the many adversaries we face". Mr Trump, 70, is almost two years older than Mrs Clinton.

Most of the latest reports on her health assert that she never recovered from a blood clot that she suffered in 2012, and is keeping her frailty secret.


http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37090082

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:16 PM

109. Here's some fun. Before they "fixed" it, Trump referred to his doctor by his long dead father's name

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Response to nolabear (Reply #109)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:52 PM

110. Trump probably confused it with the dead doctors's million dollar letter to Trump's draft board

Easy mistake, as that long-ago letter was the one that really counted. Gotta be impressed with a doctor who can get you excused from war for a sudden, temporary condition that prevents military service but not playing 5 or 6 sports.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 09:01 PM

111. Better check Dr. Bornstein's facebook page

I bet he's wearing the same dress as Meredith McIver in Trump's office with a different head or something.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:31 PM

112. I found the doctor who wrote that

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Response to cali (Original post)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:51 PM

114. Letter is probably as genuine as Obama's Kenyan birth certificate.

that's my opinion anyway.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:53 AM

116. and those comments.....

I mean really...."...the healthiest person ever elected to office" lol! First of all...I can hear the "lemme tell you...' right after that lol but what Dr would make a statement like that knowing they have not examined every president for comparison? Lol

Certainly..... certainly......Obama is healthier...I mean....really lol

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:23 AM

117. I sure hope this becomes an issue since he's pushing Hillary's legitimate doctor's report

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:49 AM

120. His tests have had positive results for what? Hep C? Syph?

 

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:57 AM

121. This document needs extreme vetting. ExTREEME... EXTREEEME vetting.

I'm glad Newsweek is on it.

Thanx for posting.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 02:02 AM

122. Too feeble for the Vietnam draft, but suddenly now immortal

As one who served back then and got a REAL Purple Heart (which I never "always wanted", forgive me for calling 'bullshit' on this puffed up charlatan and all of his bogus testimonials.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #122)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 03:15 AM

124. Forgive you? Fuck no. Not when there is NOTHING to forgive.

 

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Response to cali (Reply #124)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 05:02 AM

127. This really hits home for me

Too many friends died in faraway jungles while Trump went on with his playboy life and joked that avoiding STDs was his Vietnam.

I have no problem with those who avoided service in that war out of conscience (and as a congressional intern I wrote my Rep's press release reporting and explaining President Carter's draft amnesty).

But for Trump avoiding service was just a matter of convenience and privilege. Let the chumps get called up, he was above that.

When Trump's student deferments ran out he was a prime candidate for the draft. He got a doctor to spare him. I wonder who went in his place, and what happened to him. Unknowable, of course, but we know about the suffering and the carnage and the 58,000 Americans who didn't have compliant doctors and who served, and who died. While the guy who claims to be the best patriot ever stayed home.



R.I.P. to my friends They may not have liked it or even agreed with it. They may have gone because their dads and uncles went in WWII. Or because they heard JFK appeal to our generation to "Ask not..." For whatever reason, they showed up. Some probaby would have loved to have had a doctor who could get them out of it...but they weren't privileged, so they went. And died. While the truly privileged endured combat against STDs and lamented that horrible ordeal.

R.I.P., my friends. You would not believe the people who are being elevated since your passing. But some of us still remember who you were and what you did and what we lost in losing you.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #127)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 05:09 AM

128. I could tell from your initial terse comment- the one I responded to.

 

I don't what to say to you. I suppose I could glibly thank you for your service, but I won't. I can only say you I'm so sorry for the losses you endure. And that I think your outrage over Trump vis a vis the Vietnam War and his callous comments and egocentric pov, is entirely justified. It's one I share, though I certainly don't have the personal connection to loss and the horror of the Vietnam war that you do.

With respect,

cali

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 07:25 AM

130. No 70 year old is in perfect health

No matter how careful we are, life, time and gravity have their way with us.

"He has no history of ever using alcohol..."

Oh for Christ's sake, with his life style? Please.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:56 AM

131. why isn't this story being covered by the news networks?

You can bet if Hillary had concocted such a letter it would be a top story.

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Response to napkinz (Reply #131)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:58 AM

132. it is- albeit anemically. But you are right. This should have been covered the moment

 

he released this ludicrous document. We need to keep pushing this via social media.

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Response to cali (Reply #132)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:09 AM

133. what do we need to do, suffix a "gate" to it?

Lettergate?

or maybe just combine all Don the Con's scandals and call it Trumpgate.

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Response to napkinz (Reply #133)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:13 AM

134. Donnybrook.

 

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Response to cali (Reply #134)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:17 AM

135. that's a good one!

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:55 PM

137. Oh come off it - how could you doubt something Trump told us....



Ok I tried to post that with a seriousness and straight face but dagnabbit that's hard to do!!

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #137)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:58 PM

139. You set yourself a sisyphean task. Imfuckingpossible.

 

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:55 PM

138. The sig extending past the sig line is no big deal. People who sign big do that.

As for the rest, it reads as something a kid wrote to give to his school to explain his skipping school. It is not in any way a document to be taken seriously by a doctor. It says nothing in flourishes. I agree, why would he be seeing a gastroenterologist for 35 yrs?

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:31 PM

140. About as authentic as Trump's PR guy John Miller...

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:31 PM

141. Looks like a note a kid typed to get out of school....

To whom my concern........ really Donald, you do always talk about yourself

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:02 PM

146. Rachel covering the story right now on MSNBC!

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Response to napkinz (Reply #146)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:16 PM

148. good. this needs to be investigated. Not just reported on.

 

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:15 PM

147. Donald's "doctor" is probably a quack, just like Trump himself

 

Seriously, with the way Trump has been behaving recently, it's pretty obvious that his mental health is in question. And didn't a news report recently confirm that Trump's campaign has taken a great toll on his general health?

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Response to Lsantos04 (Reply #147)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:57 PM

150. I didn't see that news report about Trumps's health

Do you have a link? Thanks!

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Response to cali (Original post)

Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:09 PM

149. haroldbornsteinmd.com - try going to that site.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:23 AM

151. Does Trump have Khan's super blood from Star Trek?



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Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:53 AM

152. So are there any AMA or state licensing recorder on this guy?

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Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:20 AM

153. if only Hillary had the mental and physical stamina of Donald Trump








Trump: Clinton Lacks ‘Mental and Physical Stamina’ to Fight ISIS
by Josh Feldman | August 15th, 2016

“She also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on ISIS and all of the many adversaries we face, not only in terrorism but in trade and every other challenge we must confront.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-clinton-lacks-mental-and-physical-stamina-to-fight-isis/

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Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:54 PM

154. Trump tweets ...



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Response to napkinz (Reply #154)

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 01:18 PM

155. Is Dr. Bornstein actually a doctor at said hospital? Answer, "Trump lies again."

 

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