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Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:39 AM

I have a solution to the problem--ban emails!

No more questions whether they are fake, doctored or real. If a problem does exist then pick up the phone or walk over to the next office to discuss it.

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Reply I have a solution to the problem--ban emails! (Original post)
TexasTowelie Jul 2016 OP
DURHAM D Jul 2016 #1
leftofcool Jul 2016 #2
TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #5
revbones Jul 2016 #3
leftofcool Jul 2016 #4
revbones Jul 2016 #6
TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #10
revbones Jul 2016 #17
TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #23
revbones Jul 2016 #24
Exilednight Jul 2016 #25
TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #30
Exilednight Jul 2016 #32
TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #34
ksoze Jul 2016 #7
TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #12
Exilednight Jul 2016 #26
bigwillq Jul 2016 #8
Avalux Jul 2016 #9
revbones Jul 2016 #18
Avalux Jul 2016 #20
still_one Jul 2016 #11
Scuba Jul 2016 #13
unblock Jul 2016 #14
TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #16
merrily Jul 2016 #15
revbones Jul 2016 #19
RAFisher Jul 2016 #21
TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #33
onecaliberal Jul 2016 #22
Motley13 Jul 2016 #27
Initech Jul 2016 #28
TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #31
Warren Stupidity Jul 2016 #29
Karen_J Jul 2016 #35

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:40 AM

1. Is texting okay? nt

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:41 AM

2. No because someone can hack your phone. So texting is out.

I say we shut down the internets all together.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:44 AM

5. Only to family and friends.

If it is business related then write a letter so that that the receiver can choose when and decide whether to write or call back with a response. The idea about emails is that people expect an immediate response and in most instances an immediate response is not necessary--if it is that important then make the phone call instead.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:42 AM

3. So the answer is

 

to just make the shady stuff less able to be exposed? Not to stop doing shady stuff?

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Response to revbones (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:43 AM

4. Well, not all of us are pure.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:44 AM

6. So you agree that the goal would be to just hide it better? nt

 

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Response to revbones (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:48 AM

10. Look at it this way--

the shady stuff may include hacking, faking or doctoring emails. So which comes first--the chicken or the egg?

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:08 AM

17. Well, if the emails didn't contain shady stuff...

 

and they didn't do shady stuff at all to be caught, then we wouldn't be having this conversation would we?

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Response to revbones (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:23 AM

23. Would we?

Anybody with the intelligence to hack an email system is also intelligent enough to doctor the contents to support their chosen narrative.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:24 AM

24. So you're saying the emails were doctored now?

 

And that DWS just stepped down for no reason, and the other staffer apologized for nothing? Wow.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:25 AM

25. Except for the fact that the contents have been confirmed to be genuine.

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Response to Exilednight (Reply #25)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:45 AM

30. That's odd

because I've read on DU that the contents of some of the emails were doctored. Therefore, I'd like to know your source so I can review it. TIA.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #30)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:53 AM

32. No one apologizes for something they didn't do.

Top DNC Official Apologizes for 'Insensitive' Email After Leak

The chief financial officer of the Democratic National Committee on Saturday apologized for the "insensitive" contents of an email leaked by the website WikiLeaks which appears to refer to Bernie Sanders.

-snip-

The email says "ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist."

In a Facebook post Saturday, Marshall said emails were written in the heat of the moment.

"I deeply regret that my insensitive, emotional emails would cause embarrassment to the DNC, the chairwoman, and all of the staffers who worked hard to make the primary a fair and open process," Marshall said. "The comments expressed do not reflect my beliefs nor do they reflect the beliefs of the DNC and its employees. I apologize to those I offended."


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/top-dnc-official-apologizes-insensitive-email-after-leak-n615606

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Response to Exilednight (Reply #32)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:21 PM

34. So the contents of one of the DNC officials has been confirmed as true.

There is no confirmation on the rest of them thus far so we can't say whether the contents of those emails are accurate. Thanks for the link.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:45 AM

7. You are aware...

That most phones are IP-based, meaning they use the internet and are transported over the same infrastructure emails are. The same internet that is being hacked. Everything is hackable today, so might as well get used to it and watch what ones says and writes.

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Response to ksoze (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:51 AM

12. Yes, the system can be hacked.

However, there are already laws about recording telephone conversations and relatively non-searchable. Emails are forever.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:26 AM

26. There are laws against hacking emails, but good luck applying US law in Russia.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:46 AM

8. Wouldn't work. Someone will find a way to get their hands on an e-mail.

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:47 AM

9. I have a better solution! Stop writing emails that could be used against you.

It's really simple, but it requires integrity, which is something that appears to be lacking among some at the DNC.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:10 AM

18. I think it's better to not do/say those things

 

which has more integrity than just not writing them in emails...

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Response to revbones (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:14 AM

20. Yes, of course.

You know as well as I do that what you're saying is a really high bar for politicians.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:51 AM

11. Regardless of one's take on the emails, what it does point out is that supposed experts both in the

government, and other enterprises, are not doing a very good job of securing their sites.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:53 AM

13. Better solution: Don't do stupid shit!!!

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:57 AM

14. what about posting online? is that banned too? ;)

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Response to unblock (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:04 AM

16. While there is an expectation of anonymity choosing a username

there is no guaranty so proceed at your own discretion.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:59 AM

15. The solution is not to do anything embarrassing. Before there was email, there

were getting caught in the act, leaks, phone taps, minutes missing from audio tapes, etc.

Besides, the goal for those in positions of trust or seeking positions of trust should not be evading detection, but behaving ethically.

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Response to merrily (Reply #15)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:11 AM

19. ^^ THIS ^^ nt

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:18 AM

21. The solution is to use PGP/GPG encryption. But it's horrible optics for public officials.

It's the antithesis of transparency. However e-mails are not very secure to begin with. With public-private key cryptography, only people with that private key could decrypt the message.

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Response to RAFisher (Reply #21)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:59 AM

33. Considering that political parties are not a branch of government

and past crimes such as Watergate, it seems perfectly reasonable to expect the communications for the candidates and the associated national committees to be encrypted. With the allegations that foreign governments may be tampering with our electoral process I think that the standards will be tightened in the future.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:22 AM

22. I have a solution as well, it's easy and doesn't cost a thing.

FOLLOW THE GOD DAMN RULES!

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:29 AM

27. You can't even trust a meeting for the shady stuff

Someone could be taping it

Remember Mitt & the 47%?


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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:39 AM

28. Or how about mailing old fashioned letters?

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Response to Initech (Reply #28)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:50 AM

31. Well they are less likely to be intercepted that way,

and if they are intercepted then the recipient can obviously deny any involvement.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:43 AM

29. Yes when you are going to conspire to violate regulations

 

doing so by email is stupid. Phones are probably not a good idea either. Probably no office meetings too.

Maybe a dead drop?

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:26 PM

35. old news

I don't know why it's so hard for so many people to learn that nothing online is totally secure and private. It's one of the first things I learned about the internet, and it hasn't changed at all.

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