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(45,473 posts)brooklynite
(94,493 posts)malthaussen
(17,184 posts)... he's not the same B.D. as he was 45 years ago, and even then he was a Reagan Republican.
Duke, on the other hand...
-- Mal
Hekate
(90,637 posts)....profession in the first place.
malthaussen
(17,184 posts)I do not make a practice of seeking sorrow.
-- Mal
Glorfindel
(9,726 posts)The snippets that I have seen and heard since are horrible enough. I couldn't have survived watching the whole thing.
malthaussen
(17,184 posts)... it's a personal quirk. And the important points of any speech will be analyzed to death within 24 hours, anyway, so one loses little significant information -- and need not fear for either his blood pressure nor the safety of his video monitor.
-- Mal
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)parts are almost always exploitative BS, EMPTY rhetoric, left or right.
impossible to watch
I will say, though, that whenever trump is off the prompter, he is insanely entertaining to watch
his little breakdown at the Hyatt on Friday is a case in point. Cincinnati and Indiana speeches are both on youtube, and worth just dipping into for a moment or two, and definitely will not be sad-making. I found this aspect of his presentation by accident, while flipping, and caught him in the midst of one of his stream of consciousness, non sequitur filled jeremaiads, every bit as rambling, and hilariously more self-centered than Palin's own utterances.
tblue37
(65,300 posts)worth watching an 18-wheeler barreling down the highway at 85 mph when those ahead in your way forward are not moving fast enough for you to get out of the way.
Trump's delivery and his mannerisms were so very Mussolini that it was as if Il Douche was channelling Il Duce. You need to see the whole 75 minutes of it to fully understand what it means.
His shouting got louder and more belligerent, his face redder and more puffed up, and his gestures more violent as the speech progressed, and the cumulative effect was something that you cannot really comprehend by viewing just a few minutes of his rant.
BumRushDaShow
(128,802 posts)tuned to the local news station that carried the speech when I went to bed, and as I dozed on and off, what I heard when awake sounded horrifying - notably the feverish crowd cheers as he ranted and raged.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I didn't need to watch it, I know what tRump is.
Shipwack
(2,161 posts)Anyone else notice the nazi salutes in the background of the first panel?
Glorfindel
(9,726 posts)Spotted them right away.
Will Morningstar
(90 posts)calimary
(81,198 posts)Yeah, I saw the Nazi salutes, too. There's a photo of Laura Ingraham up there onstage saluting that way, toward Trump on the big screen behind her.
lastlib
(23,208 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,802 posts)lastlib
(23,208 posts)But that Adolf guy sure taught Little Donny a lot!
malthaussen
(17,184 posts)... even if one doesn't understand a single word. The feeding frenzy is sufficient to give bold men pause. There's a moral there, you know: when it comes to oratory, the substance doesn't really matter diddly.
-- Mal
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)used to read them
Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.
"Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?" I asked Trump.
Trump hesitated. "Who told you that?"
"I don't remember," I said.
"Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he's a Jew." ("I did give him a book about Hitler," Marty Davis said. "But it was My New Order, Hitler's speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I'm not Jewish."
Later, Trump returned to this subject. "If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/vanity-fair-trump-kept-a-volume-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bedside/article/2001343
Michael Kennedy, where are you? do you still have the book? have you been threatened, or paid off, yet? did you give the book back to Ivana, or Trumpkin?
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)byronius
(7,392 posts)lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)Kick
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)The enemy within leads to witch burning, lynching, and concentration camps. If Trump gets elected, some of us may get to meet each other there.
63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,161 posts)And scary as hell...