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Sunday's Doonesbury- Reaction (Original Post) n2doc Jul 2016 OP
K&R. n/t FSogol Jul 2016 #1
So he's saying B.D. wouldn't be a Trump fan? brooklynite Jul 2016 #2
He's a disabled vet, his best friend is black... malthaussen Jul 2016 #4
Duke is in the same line of work as Manafort, which is how I found out about that.... Hekate Jul 2016 #29
That's why I didn't watch it. malthaussen Jul 2016 #3
Same here Glorfindel Jul 2016 #5
I dislike oratory as an art form anyway... malthaussen Jul 2016 #8
same here. where they aren't making specific, verifiable assertions, the oratorical Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #21
It was worth watching Trump's acceptance speech for the same reason it is tblue37 Jul 2016 #23
I had the radio on BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #10
Yep awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #20
A detail in the background... Shipwack Jul 2016 #6
Oh, yes Glorfindel Jul 2016 #9
No detail. The theme. Will Morningstar Jul 2016 #11
Welcome to DU, Will Morningstar! calimary Jul 2016 #17
Yes, but what surprised me was a Fox reporter (Roland Hedley) was speechless.... lastlib Jul 2016 #19
Perfect 8-panel "WTF?"s BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #7
It was better in the original German. lastlib Jul 2016 #12
Adolf's speeches are terrifying... malthaussen Jul 2016 #15
according to Ivana, IIRC, he kept a copy of those speeches next to his bed, and Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #22
Sesame Street - W is for Wehrmacht Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #26
That was pretty damned funny. byronius Jul 2016 #27
Perfect! mcar Jul 2016 #13
That about sums it up. lillypaddle Jul 2016 #14
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2016 #16
So glad I did not watch that psychotic low point in American political history. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #18
Watching the evil circus showed the absolute reality of your words. nt 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #24
I agree, perfect description Rhiannon12866 Jul 2016 #31
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2016 #25
Another great Doonesbury strip Gothmog Jul 2016 #28
Doonesbury is the greatest. Hekate Jul 2016 #30

malthaussen

(17,184 posts)
4. He's a disabled vet, his best friend is black...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:32 AM
Jul 2016

... he's not the same B.D. as he was 45 years ago, and even then he was a Reagan Republican.

Duke, on the other hand...

-- Mal

Hekate

(90,637 posts)
29. Duke is in the same line of work as Manafort, which is how I found out about that....
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:44 AM
Jul 2016

....profession in the first place.

Glorfindel

(9,726 posts)
5. Same here
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:41 AM
Jul 2016

The snippets that I have seen and heard since are horrible enough. I couldn't have survived watching the whole thing.

malthaussen

(17,184 posts)
8. I dislike oratory as an art form anyway...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:45 AM
Jul 2016

... it's a personal quirk. And the important points of any speech will be analyzed to death within 24 hours, anyway, so one loses little significant information -- and need not fear for either his blood pressure nor the safety of his video monitor.

-- Mal

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
21. same here. where they aren't making specific, verifiable assertions, the oratorical
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:13 PM
Jul 2016

parts are almost always exploitative BS, EMPTY rhetoric, left or right.

impossible to watch

I will say, though, that whenever trump is off the prompter, he is insanely entertaining to watch

his little breakdown at the Hyatt on Friday is a case in point. Cincinnati and Indiana speeches are both on youtube, and worth just dipping into for a moment or two, and definitely will not be sad-making. I found this aspect of his presentation by accident, while flipping, and caught him in the midst of one of his stream of consciousness, non sequitur filled jeremaiads, every bit as rambling, and hilariously more self-centered than Palin's own utterances.

tblue37

(65,300 posts)
23. It was worth watching Trump's acceptance speech for the same reason it is
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jul 2016

worth watching an 18-wheeler barreling down the highway at 85 mph when those ahead in your way forward are not moving fast enough for you to get out of the way.

Trump's delivery and his mannerisms were so very Mussolini that it was as if Il Douche was channelling Il Duce. You need to see the whole 75 minutes of it to fully understand what it means.

His shouting got louder and more belligerent, his face redder and more puffed up, and his gestures more violent as the speech progressed, and the cumulative effect was something that you cannot really comprehend by viewing just a few minutes of his rant.

BumRushDaShow

(128,802 posts)
10. I had the radio on
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jul 2016

tuned to the local news station that carried the speech when I went to bed, and as I dozed on and off, what I heard when awake sounded horrifying - notably the feverish crowd cheers as he ranted and raged.

Shipwack

(2,161 posts)
6. A detail in the background...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:41 AM
Jul 2016

Anyone else notice the nazi salutes in the background of the first panel?

calimary

(81,198 posts)
17. Welcome to DU, Will Morningstar!
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:36 AM
Jul 2016

Yeah, I saw the Nazi salutes, too. There's a photo of Laura Ingraham up there onstage saluting that way, toward Trump on the big screen behind her.

malthaussen

(17,184 posts)
15. Adolf's speeches are terrifying...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jul 2016

... even if one doesn't understand a single word. The feeding frenzy is sufficient to give bold men pause. There's a moral there, you know: when it comes to oratory, the substance doesn't really matter diddly.

-- Mal

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
22. according to Ivana, IIRC, he kept a copy of those speeches next to his bed, and
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:24 PM
Jul 2016

used to read them

Of all the crazy revelations about Donald Trump, arguably the one that seems most alarming, is that he has a fondness for reading Hitler speeches. Now the charge was made by his first wife Ivana relating to his divorce proceedings, but when asked about it, Trump's denial was less than reassuring:


Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

"Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?" I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. "Who told you that?"

"I don't remember," I said.


"Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he's a Jew." ("I did give him a book about Hitler," Marty Davis said. "But it was My New Order, Hitler's speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I'm not Jewish.&quot

Later, Trump returned to this subject. "If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/vanity-fair-trump-kept-a-volume-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bedside/article/2001343

Michael Kennedy, where are you? do you still have the book? have you been threatened, or paid off, yet? did you give the book back to Ivana, or Trumpkin?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
18. So glad I did not watch that psychotic low point in American political history.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:38 AM
Jul 2016

The enemy within leads to witch burning, lynching, and concentration camps. If Trump gets elected, some of us may get to meet each other there.

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