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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSpeechgate: "Former ballet dancer and English major...." ???
In this excerpt, the NYT is playing up this description of Meredith McIver (the person who supposedly helped Melania craft her speech) with a casual reference to her working on some of Trump's books. Master intellectual and researcher (sarcasm) Mika played this up today as well.
NY Times
When in reality, it looks like McIver is so much more. Although credits to McIver seem to vary depending on book website, she was listed as co-author, "with", or contributor on the following Trump books.
1. Think like a Billionaire
2. Why you want to be rich
3. Think like a champion (Contributor)
4. Trump: How to get rich (with Meredith McIver)
5. Trump: Never give up
6. Trump: The art of the deal
7. Pocket Guide to Trump
8. Trump 101 - The way to success
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21090.Meredith_McIver
http://www.amazon.com/Meredith-McIver/e/B001ILKCEE
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/us/politics/melania-trump-convention-speech.html
2naSalit
(86,502 posts)ballet dancer and English Major? This woman is obviously an opportunist who has managed to help the master bloviated ascend to the heights of hypocrisy and fame, has nothing to do with ballet or English Major as a chosen profession, it simply shows that she has no scruples.
I am a classical vocal performer, former truck driver (well over a decade), and policy analyst (mostly federal land management) but it doesn't mean I have no scruples or sense of reality.
There's plenty of material out there showing what a opportunist for cash this person is but don't knock ballet dancers and English majors as indicators of her failings.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)unworthy professions - but to paint her as a novice in the world of authorship and publishing. Which, she is clearly not.
But, this is not about NYT, this is about the Trump bizzaro world. If McIver did indeed sloppily steer Melania wrong, what about all his books?
It's not the typical "Follow the Money" here...it's "Follow the Donald"
malaise
(268,844 posts)#4?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Meredith McIver
Associate to Donald Trump, Co-author of "Trump: How to Get Rich"
Meredith McIver is a close associate to the world famous real estate titan and recent TV Impresario Donald Trump.
Ms. McIver co-authored the best-selling book, "Trump: How to Get Rich," which reveals the secrets of his success.
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Meredith McIver has been a member of The Trump Organization since September of 2001. Prior to that she worked on Wall Street. Originally from San Jose, California, Meredith started her career at age 14 as a Ford Foundation Scholar, when she began training at George Balachine's School of American Ballet. She graduated with honors from the University of Utah in English, and has worked as an editor and writer.
https://speakerpedia.com/speakers/meredith-mciver
sarae
(3,284 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)2naSalit
(86,502 posts)the "Follow the Donald" thing, I just think that she has a serious lack of scruples should have been the dominant theme based on her prior work with the drumpf regime.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,294 posts)and being an English major is a qualification for that. "Former ballet dancer" might look like it's saying she's a novice, but they followed it with 'English major' to show she's widely read, and would also know all the rules about plagiarism.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)with the rules/practices of giving credit though.
But, like I said, not really about NYT's choice of description...more about the fact that it looks like she must have been much more than someone who "worked on some of his books".
RussBLib
(9,005 posts)You should read Jane Mayer's latest article in The New Yorker where she talks with Tony Schwartz, who ghost-wrote practically all of "The Art of the Deal". As usual, Trump just put his name on the book and didn't write hardly any of it.
Tony is feeling mucho regret at helping to build the INVINCIBLE BUSINESSMAN TRUMP.
This is a long article but worth your time.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all
The story was already posted on DU here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016163719
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)snip
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Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)"there's no there there. He is just transactional trying to do everything he can do to aggrandize himself"
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)didn't finish her degree in English, is my guess. If she had the degree they would be saying "graduated from Princeton", etc. Being an "English major" means as long as she declared, she didn't have to actually take or pass a single English course. When a major coorporation hires someone to be a writer, the usual hiree is going to have a degree in journalism, English, etc. I doubt you can even find a job listing for a coorporate writer that doesn't require a degree. I was a Journalism major (for a year) but if I put that on my application to Trump or any organization, they'd be laughing as they dropped my resume into the shredder.
My guess is they are using her own biography for the information, same as they have with Melania and her made-up degree. Usually that works since most people are honest in their biographies but when you are dealing with grifters who make up a degree so they seem like a smarter person to do business with or to make the American people think you had the smarts and work-ethic to get through University it sort of falls apart. Ms McIntyre, of course, merely seems to have chosen the best way to say she took some classes in English and was a ballerina (professionally or did she just take some ballet classes)? If I can say I was a journalism major and took ballet in college (I did, in fact, take Ballet I at Rutgers under Sherry Alben of the Princeton Ballet) can I also say I was a ballerina? This is all about packaging...
That's a lot of talking to say that I think the NYT is kind of pointing out that Ms McIntyre does not have the usual resume for someone who is a coorporate writer/speechwriter. Which is fair in the business world--it's all about the sales pitch and the resume in that world!
Darb
(2,807 posts)Don't forget the rickroll:
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)all his books. And, he takes all the credit. If they throw her under the bus, she exposes he's practically illiterate. Who was it who just said he was probably the most intellectually incurious person they had ever met?
Darb
(2,807 posts)I promise they don't mention it and will probably not answer any questions on it again. All the pubics that are on TV have the same message, blathering about what a great night it was and repeat the message ad nauseum.
Maybe something will shake loose. I don't hold much faith in that prospect.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)That the Trump campaign has said it would not fire anyone for the instance speaks volumes. It could be an example of the campaigns general eschewal of common, sensical campaign practices that would help it avoid these kinds of messes in the first place. It could be that it is too bereft of organizational infrastructureespecially in the midst of a convention that itself is proving to be difficult to pull offto make such a swift decision. Or it could be that the mistake was made by someone un-fireablea member so close to the Trump clan, a Trump him or herself, perhaps, that there is no way for them to exit the campaign.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/melania-trump-rnc-speech-ballerina
In another article, about Coach Mike Leach
So were walking by all these big buildings in New York that Id read about in the book, and Im thinking, what the heck, lets call him, Leach says.
The coach dialed information to get a number for Trump Enterprises, then called the main line, where he talked a receptionist into transferring him to Trumps personal assistant, Meredith McIver.
http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/wsu-cougar-football/how-wsu-coach-mike-leach-and-donald-trump-developed-a-unique-friendship/
Darb
(2,807 posts)This is frickin unreal.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)tblue37
(65,269 posts)DONALD TRUMPS GHOSTWRITER TELLS ALL:
The Art of the Deal made America see Trump as a charmer with an unfailing knack for business. Tony Schwartz helped create that mythand regrets it.
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It seemed improbable that Trumps campaign would succeed, so Schwartz told himself that he neednt worry much. But, as Trump denounced Mexican immigrants as rapists, near the end of the speech, Schwartz felt anxious. He had spent hundreds of hours observing Trump firsthand, and felt that he had an unusually deep understanding of what he regarded as Trumps beguiling strengths and disqualifying weaknesses. Many Americans, however, saw Trump as a charmingly brash entrepreneur with an unfailing knack for businessa mythical image that Schwartz had helped create. It pays to trust your instincts, Trump says in the book, adding that he was set to make hundreds of millions of dollars after buying a hotel that he hadnt even walked through.
In the subsequent months, as Trump defied predictions by establishing himself as the front-runner for the Republican nomination, Schwartzs desire to set the record straight grew. He had long since left journalism to launch the Energy Project, a consulting firm that promises to improve employees productivity by helping them boost their physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual morale. It was a successful company, with clients such as Facebook, and Schwartzs colleagues urged him to avoid the political fray. But the prospect of President Trump terrified him. It wasnt because of Trumps ideologySchwartz doubted that he had one. The problem was Trumps personality, which he considered pathologically impulsive and self-centered.
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I put lipstick on a pig, he said. I feel a deep sense of remorse that I contributed to presenting Trump in a way that brought him wider attention and made him more appealing than he is. He went on, I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization.
If he were writing The Art of the Deal today, Schwartz said, it would be a very different book with a very different title. Asked what he would call it, he answered, The Sociopath.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Darb
(2,807 posts)for pubic hairs. We are up against pubic hairs, and we all know how last century pubic hair is.
Definitely last century for sure!
malaise
(268,844 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
lunatica
(53,410 posts)She's been with him longer than his latest wife has. Probably longer that the last 2 wives.
tblue37
(65,269 posts)See post #22 above.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Trump: The Art of the Deal
by Donald J. Trump, Meredith McIver
winstars
(4,219 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)She knows too much about what he doesn't know.
malaise
(268,844 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)From Slate: "Yes, Melania Speech Fall Woman Meredith McIver Is Real. Heres Proof."
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/07/20/yes_meredith_mciver_is_a_real_person_here_s_proof.html
Wednesdays
(17,331 posts)That the list of credits is actually from a series of ghostwriters?
I ask this because apparently no one has seen, heard from, or interviewed Meredith McIver since the Speechgate story broke.