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Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:10 AM

Melania Trump's speech rips off Michelle Obama's from 2008...

This is not going to end well for Donald.

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Reply Melania Trump's speech rips off Michelle Obama's from 2008... (Original post)
Drunken Irishman Jul 2016 OP
Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #1
yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #46
napkinz Jul 2016 #58
yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #2
Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #6
yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #7
Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #10
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:12 AM

1. Let's make this go viral.

 

K&R

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:30 AM

46. Yup!

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 03:46 AM

58. I'll second yup that!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:12 AM

2. I doubt it will be brought up

 

The next day's are about trump. Her speech will be forgotten.

First night was awful though.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:20 AM

6. Sorry...it's already spreading like wildfire

 

MSNBC is going to bring it up.

Melania Trump just squashed her own reputation...

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:21 AM

7. I don't care. She's not running.

 

We should focus on Donald.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:25 AM

12. Now Melina is definitely going to have to drop out

 

She's doomed!

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:33 AM

16. Oh my. She's ruined her political career for life now.

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #18)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 04:17 AM

61. LOL! Now Huffpo! I read once over it and thats all. Because I wrote it and with [as] little help

I read once over it and thats all. Because I wrote it and with [as] little help as possible.

"Melania Trump Plagiarized Her Convention Speech From Michelle Obama"

"Its unclear how much of her speech Melania actually wrote, but earlier in the day she told NBCs Matt Lauer, I read once over it and thats all. Because I wrote it and with [as] little help as possible.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/melania-trump-speech-plagiarized_us_578da752e4b0a0ae97c33675

Cali~

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #18)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:16 AM

70. Good job.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:41 AM

75. You've adeptly moved the goalposts from your initial premise in regards to her speech

You've adeptly moved the goalposts from your initial premise in regards to her speech ("I doubt it will be brought up. Her speech will be forgotten..." to a most wonderful straw man in which you trivialize to one but yourself her importance.

Clever. Very clever.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:52 AM

21. OK. What should DONALD do about his wife reading a plagiarized speech?

A college student would be flunked and/or kicked out of college for plagiarism. If Trump's the "law and order candidate," is he going to out and fire that plagiarist? As Steve Schmidt just said, if Trump can't impose accountability in his campaign, how's he going to impose accountability in the VA?

Melania was humiliated by that plagiarist, is Trump going to defend her and avenge her? If he can't fight for his wife, if he can't impose order here, how will he do it for our country?

And how about the fact that Melania had told Matt Lauer that she wrote the speech? Would Michelle Obama have been given a pass if she had done this?

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:57 AM

89. heads need to roll

it's pretty obvious but he's going to have to let her go. It's not too late in the campaign for him to change running mates.I can see a strong candidate like Melissa McCarthy being a good substitute as first lady

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Response to Bucky (Reply #89)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:04 PM

100. Seriously? You think this is no big deal? Trump shouldn't fire the speech writer?

This is another example of Trump's out of control, irresponsible campaign and you want to mock us pointing this out?!

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #100)

Wed Jul 20, 2016, 03:35 PM

116. I made a joke. It's okay to do that.

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Response to Bucky (Reply #116)

Wed Jul 20, 2016, 03:41 PM

117. It's not ok to sarcastically belittle the objections to Trump campaign plagiarism.

Which is what you were doing with your "joke."

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:15 AM

79. The Donald has told us repeatedly that he relies on his family

for business, political, and personal advice. He's touted how smart they are, and how lucky the country will be to have them as First Family.

He also keeps telling us that if elected he'll surround himself with "the smartest people" (as opposed to all the loser PhDs. Fulbright scholars, constitutional lawyers and career diplomats President Obama has consulted through the years).

This major a gaff is a reflection on all that. And that they would steal from a woman they (meaning the GOP) have so often reviled, ridiculed, demeaned, adds frosting to this cake of pure fuck up.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:32 AM

85. We ARE focusing on Donald and his CAMPAIGN. Stop defending THEFT and FRAUD!!

 

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #85)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 11:15 AM

95. I'm not defending it. Many politicians do it.....MANY

 

Even those in office today at the top.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #95)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:39 PM

101. Yes, you are minimizing it. "They all do it...even those ...at the top" WTF?

So you're saying Barack and Michelle plagiarize? REALLY?

What do you think would have happenned if Michelle Obama, in her speech introducing Barack at the 2008 Dem convention, had lifted whole paragraphs from Laura Bush's speech introducing Dubya at the 2000 RNC convention?

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:26 AM

83. WHAT IS WORSE.......

It not just plagiarizing sentences, she was DUMB enough to plagiarize the sequence of Michelle's speech. If you are going to cheat don't be so blatant about it. And now those defending her are saying she just used the same words, nothing more. WELL GEE, what a COINCIDENT that those random words managed to fall into the SAME sequence, following the sentences in the EXACT same order.

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Response to cynzke (Reply #83)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:29 PM

110. Exactly. After teaching at the university level for 32 years, I can spot

plagiarism easily: word choice "your word is your bond" (an infrequent phrase, particularly for a non-native English speaker) and as you point out the sequence of thoughts and phrases. The T's are idiots - in the Internet world you can't lift and get away with it.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:44 AM

87. Wildfire is an understatement

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:30 PM

111. It was all I heard when I turned on my 10 min. of Morning Joe, oppo research time.

BTW - yes, that does reflect very poorly on Drumpf. It shows he doesn't have a team, it shows his lack of concern with the process. It's std. to have the speeches vetted. Obviously that wasn't done in this case, his responsibility. Marrying the lying plagiarist, again his choice and his fault.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:22 AM

8. BREAKING on MSNBC right now! nt

 

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:23 AM

9. Cool. Maybe Melina will drop out of the running

 

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:17 AM

71. Why are you defending plagiarism?

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:23 AM

82. She can't

Not without Donald dropping out or an instant divorce. She is tied at the hip whether she likes it or not.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:31 AM

84. She and/or the campaign STOLE this part of the speech. They are a FRAUD! This is THEFT!

 

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:59 AM

27. The delegates were already wondering what the hell was going on with Melania.

As they were walking out. That is bad news for them.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #27)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 04:19 AM

62. What do you mean by that, LF?

How was she acting?

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Response to Cha (Reply #62)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:51 AM

88. With the plagiarized part of her speech.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:17 AM

42. Hardly likely. It's all over the news right now. It's amateur hour in that campaign . . .

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and fraud and deceipt and immorality and plagarization.

God, what stupidity, copying passages word for word from Michelle Obama's speech and nobody in that rambling wreck of a campaign caught it.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:47 AM

52. You were wrong.

It's a big deal. It is indicative of how they lie and cheat. They are being exposed.


Weeks 1 - 5 .... *Stares at screen*

Week 6 .... "Ah fuck it." Ctrl "C" - Ctrl "P"

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 11:40 AM

96. It's all over the news today.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 07:38 PM

114. It is now the number 1 story in the country according to google news

 

You were saying?

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:55 AM

119. Looks like you didn't get your wish

Now there could be a possible campaign finance law violation and Trump aides are being investigated by the Secret Service for death threats against against Mrs. Clinton.


Not looking good for the Trumpers



We need to pray the Secret Service keeps their eye out for these demented perverts.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:18 AM

3. oops

I suspect we'll be hearing about this after the commercial.

That's a campaign killer.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:18 AM

4. I think MSNBC is about to report it

Brian Williams just teased the "first hint of something wrong with what Melania Trump said tonight"

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:19 AM

5. Holy shit...

That's such a blatant copy.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:25 AM

11. Tweety charges plagiarim and he is devastated. nt

 

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:30 AM

13. The RNC is turning into a giant dumpster fire

 

I'm positive that this convention will hurt Trump badly, rather than help him. It's not like Trump has a chance in hell of winning anyway.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:30 AM

14. Heads r gunna rrrrroll

splat goes the campaign

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:33 AM

17. They need to check the rest of the speech too. As Lawrence O'Donnell noted,

There wasn't a single personal anecdote in the speech. The speech was completely generic and impersonal.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:38 AM

19. I feel so sorry...

...and so embarrassed for Melania. wtf...

TYY

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Response to TeeYiYi (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:56 AM

23. Melania had told Matt Lauer today that SHE wrote the speech...

"...with as leetle hahlp as possible." And she volunteered that. Matt Lauer didn't even ask her who wrote it.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:00 AM

29. She apparently also stated that she wrote it on the plane to the convention.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:05 AM

31. Sounds like she's a pathological liar, like Donald. nt

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #31)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:11 AM

37. Melania has been practicing with a speechwriter - maybe he wrote the speech

Melania has been working with a speechwriter for the last five to six weeks, honing her speech. She stuck close to script delivering her remarks off a telepompter.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/18/politics/melania-trump-speech-2016-rnc/

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Response to womanofthehills (Reply #37)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:15 AM

39. So why would she, unprompted, claim she wrote it?

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Response to womanofthehills (Reply #37)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:29 AM

45. She told Matt Lauer an hour before she delivered the stolen goods that she

worked on it hard herself with as little help as possible. Bahahahahahaha! The whole damn family is just a bunch of cons.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #31)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 04:23 AM

63. Two little pathological liars in a pod.. nothing like getting busted for it on a national stage!



First Lady Michelle brings down the rnc the first night.. Prez must be so proud!'

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Response to Cha (Reply #63)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 07:56 AM

66. Definitely made for each

other - at least until The Donald wants to trade her in for an even younger model.

Love the NYDN! Thanks for posting, Cha!

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #66)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:14 AM

68. Hey Aloha, BlueMT! What a snake pit!

Erick Erickson
✔ ‎@EWErickson
It's not just that they plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech; they plagiarize the section on honesty, character, and integrity.

6:53 PM - 18 Jul 2016
2,732 2,732 Retweets 2,635 2,635 likes

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/07/18/tweets-of-the-day-56/

First Lady Michelle Obama~

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Response to Cha (Reply #68)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:35 AM

94. OUCH!!

That one has to sting

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:07 AM

32. CNN reported earlier that she has been working with a speech writer coach

practicing for 5 or 6 days.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:41 AM

50. If she said that...

...then it's double plus cringe worthy.

A fuckup this big doesn't happen in a vacuum. This sounds like a setup, and, if what you say is true, Melania's ego made her an easy target.

This shit has Babs' Rovian-inspired BFEE fingerprints all over it.

TYY

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Response to kskiska (Reply #20)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:57 AM

25. How do we know Melania didn't write it FIRST, and Michelle copied it from HER?

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Response to NBachers (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:18 AM

43. Probably the same time machine those Kenyans used to

 

Place that damn birth announcement in the Hawaiian newspaper! Sneaky bastards!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:55 AM

22. Melania is a grown woman and is ultimately responsible for the speech that she gave.

How much of a pass do you think Michelle Obama would of gotten if the roles were reversed?

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Response to BiminiTwisted (Reply #22)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:34 AM

74. +1!!! ^^^This^^^!!!

I have been seeing excuses for her right and left. Maybe she was responsible, maybe not, but she is an adult. She must take responsibility!

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Response to BiminiTwisted (Reply #22)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:10 AM

78. It would never stop . Fox 24/7 People need to be honest about different treatment

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:57 AM

24. So I take a break from watching the movie 'The Devil Bat'

and see this when I check out what's going on at the "Mistake By The Lake Convention".

Listened to the vid and it sounded like me, back in school, when I did a book report in front of the class, on the morning that I wrote it.

https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/755251813989904384

Back to my movie.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:59 AM

26. OMG! Michelle plagiarized Melania's speech ...

Time travel is REAL!


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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:00 AM

28. Did They Make Such a Blatant Copy on Purpose?

To take attention away from the Hate-fest that is the 2016 RNC convention? Or, are they just that lazy?

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:05 AM

30. The proper response? Congressional hearings!!!

I kid, but seriously, this is as bad a case of plagiarism on the national stage that I have seen in a long, long, long time...

1) it was WORD FOR WORD for god's sake...that was not thematically similar, it was EXACTLY the same.
2) the hypocrisy is STUNNING...the right wing has attacked Michelle relentlessly since that speech...to now steal it for the 3rd wife of a serial philander and talking Yam is unbelieveable.
3) the initial reactions trying to cut her slack for this is sickening...if the roles were reversed, the GOP would be lighting fires and demanding the witch be burned.

Fire up the torches and burn the witch...turnabout is fair play after all.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:07 AM

33. So she IS a democrat after all ...

So-o-o does this support the dump-trumpers' idea that trump is really a democrat? His wife actually said Democrat Words and Ideas in the middle of Rethug-land!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:09 AM

34. She does not sound like a native English speaker, so I am sure someone else wrote it.

Which means that she is a liar and her ghost writer is a plagiarist.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:10 AM

35. WWDTCS- What Would Don the Con say if another candidate's spouse did this? nt

 

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:11 AM

36. CNN Has the Story

CNN just sent out a notice stating that at least one passage from Melania Trump's GOP convention speech is striking simar to Michelle Obama's 2008 speech.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:13 AM

38. Thank You Van Jones on CNN! "Imagine if Michelle Obama had done this"

He was so right in what he said. If this had been Michelle Obama, there would be no sympathy, no excuses, republicans would go after her, and have gone after her for years. Criticizing Michelle was considered "fair game". Chris Matthews may want to make excuses for her, but #1. She's a liar for saying she "wrote it" and #2 If she did or whomever did, it's plagiarism. Ironic, Trump always criticizing Obama, calling him a "Kenyan", yet his wife needed to borrow the words of Obama's wife.

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Response to Lady_Chat (Reply #38)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:30 AM

47. Wolf Blitzer was trying the same thing as Chris.

Trying to say that someone in the campaign did her such a disservice. And Van Jones knocked that out of the park.
You can't have 2 standards. I mentioned before, the irony of republicans cheering the words spoken by Michelle Obama, a woman they have done everything to demonize is very amusing.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:16 AM

40. Trump will hold his wife accountable

He will fire her and replace her with a younger and more conservative first lady.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:16 AM

41. Crooked Melania

So shall we start calling her Crooked Melania?

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:38 AM

49. It's not about her. It's about the dishonesty of the Trump Campaign.

We should not make her the primary focus of this scandal,
which is what it is -- scandalous and improper, but serious
enough to get you expelled from any college in the world.

I suspect she was used by Trump who had the speech written
(or copied and pasted) for her by one of his corporate con-men.
She is a pawn and a patsy. He is a shameless self-promoter and
an unapologetic grifter.

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Response to King_Klonopin (Reply #49)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:04 AM

56. +1 nt

 

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:46 AM

51. Yowza!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:50 AM

53. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

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Response to Rochester (Reply #53)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 07:53 AM

65. ^ this

you win for best post!!

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Response to Rochester (Reply #53)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:11 AM

67. that mediocrity can pay to greatness.

-- Oscar Wilde http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/558084-imitation-is-the-sincerest-form-of-flattery-that-mediocrity-can

You stopped too soon.

It's also pretty easy to tell which = greatness and which = mediocrity in this situation.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:55 AM

54. I guess it shows how good Michelle's speech in 2008 was. n/t

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:57 AM

55. GOPers never have been able to grasp,,,

the idea of "intellectual property rights". Its that first part that throws them off track!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:40 AM

57. Whoa.....I have no words. It is surreal.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 03:56 AM

59. They'll blame it on the help and say that she didn't write it.

 

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Response to craigmatic (Reply #59)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:53 AM

76. I Can't Think

how it isn't the help's fault. Even if she wrote it (which I doubt), do you let a political novice on stage at a convention without vetting the speech they wrote? I am not usually a conspiracyist, but this is just weird. There's no way this didn't get by on purpose.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 04:13 AM

60. I read once over it and thats all. Because I wrote it and with [as] little help as possible.

"Melania Trump Plagiarized Her Convention Speech From Michelle Obama"

"Its unclear how much of her speech Melania actually wrote, but earlier in the day she told NBCs Matt Lauer, I read once over it and thats all. Because I wrote it and with [as] little help as possible.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/melania-trump-speech-plagiarized_us_578da752e4b0a0ae97c33675

Thank you, Di!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 05:29 AM

64. It made the international news....

SKY News led with it a few minutes ago....and BBC just let loose with it!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:14 AM

69. K&R

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:19 AM

72. Trump supporters scrambling to make excuses for this one.

'She's not a candidate!'

Hahaha.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:00 AM

77. BIG repug difference . FLOTUS talked of "all children in this nation" having the opportunity

Trump phrases "our children" to the audience
Seem like appropriate alteration for a republican convention imo

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:18 AM

80. Maybe Melania worked as a speechwriter for Michelle back in 2008.

Because hiring Slovenian models as speechwriters is a thing prospective first ladies might do.

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Response to tclambert (Reply #80)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:00 AM

91. Michelle has the best words

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:18 AM

81. Kick this one.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:42 AM

86. Egregious as it is

The plagiarism of Michelle's speech was the headline today? Not a Congressman (Steven King R-IA) saying that whites have done more for civilization than non-whites? Not a speaker at the RNC calling the president a muslim? Not two separate speakers talking about the danger of "illegals?"

I agree she should be called on the carpet for copying so blatantly, but this is a sensational story that the media can plug into the headlines to keep from having an uncomfortable conversation and losing access to the RNC by making their headline "RNC is an openly racist, sexist, and homophobic organization, now." I'll bet when the fact checkers discovered the plagiarism, they all breathed a sigh of relief that they didn't have to report on any of the disgusting things the other speakers spewed constantly all night.

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Response to Saviolo (Reply #86)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:58 AM

90. Why would that be headlines? We've heard it for eight years now.

Everything said at last night's convention has been said, in some way or another, the last eight years. It's not news because we've heard it all before and it doesn't seem to do much of anything.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #90)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:12 AM

92. It's only news

In that they've moved from subtle dog whistles to overt and open bigotry on the actual stage of the RNC. The reporting has always dutifully parroted what the Republicans have said, with little to no analysis. There have always been ways for folks in the media to play it down, say it was out of context, etc... they don't want to lose access by calling the racists out.

But from the tiny bit I watched last night, and all the reporting I've seen, there's no way to do that any more. The people on that stage were spewing absolute insanity. No more dog whistles, no more subtle racism, no more covert attacks on women's health and gay rights. That's it, they're out of the closet fascists now.

There are several uncomfortable conversations the media would prefer to avoid on the subject, including a) how they have enabled and emboldened them for years. b) Why they have avoided any real analysis on the shitty things that they've been saying all along. c) Why have they given this open fascist millions of dollars of free campaign air time in form of news cycles.

They'd better hope someone falls off the stage and breaks a leg tonight, so that can be the headline tomorrow instead of "Wow, who knew the RNC are actually fascists?" (spoiler: we did!)

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Response to Saviolo (Reply #92)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:15 AM

93. Problem is, take the speech out of the equation and it's probably not being reported anyway.

At least we get the benefit of someone falling off the stage. Had it not happened, the media would've glossed over the racism and sexism anyway. They always do.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 11:42 AM

97. Kick this for all the Trumpies.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:32 PM

98. The Trumps are brilliant!!! What a move. I'm serious.

 

Michelle's speech was a great speech, and that part was top notch. So Melania steals it as her own. WHO THE FUCK CARES??? Oh yeah, anyone who would not vote for Mein Trump. So what? The R base will not care. Half of them will somehow make it Michelle ripping off Melania and Benghazi. The rest will think its a great speech of people "raised right" with "good upbringing" and the themes are common and not plagiarizing. So, the only people upset will be the those that would never vote for that Cheeto reject and the those who will are further cleaved to this family of grifters and con-artists. Those undecided have a chance to hear a great speech, a very moving part that resonates and possibly be suckered into supporting these demons.

Simply brilliant.

Hillary may well be in the fight for her life on this election. I hope not, but people should not think it's in the bag, because it isn't.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:35 PM

99. Maybe Duh Donald(TM) is right about immigrants




rocktivity

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:43 PM

103. They really aren't taking this race seriously.




Their only hope is for long time rethugs to vote along party lines.
And they have alienated too many of them for that to happen.


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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:44 PM

104. Oh wow... the RNC apologist on MSNBC right now.

Soooo lame. What the Hell...

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:49 PM

105. She didn't mention Benghazi either -- what a total screw-up ! nt

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:12 PM

106. msnbc just reported...

that according to website that teachers use to scan papers for plagerism, a 16 word match has a 1 in a trillion chance of occuring randomly.

Malania's longest stretch of exact words is 23.......

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #106)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:16 PM

107. That is not good for their side.




If they have lost MSRNC they are in a world of s**t.



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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #107)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:23 PM

108. regardless.....

of the network, they have lost the message. the story has been on every 15-20 minutes ALL day long.

and the trump tactic of ignore and cover is not makng it go away.......

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:26 PM

109. Bride of Frankenstein!

Literally! He and she are now both shown to be monsters, liars and now she's shown she is in addition a plagiarist. Can't trust anything either one of them says.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 03:01 PM

112. "Melania, you're fired" - Ooops, I did that twice already, you're #3.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 03:57 PM

113. Thanks (Michelle) Obama!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Wed Jul 20, 2016, 06:57 PM

118. Kick for interesting thread

Lot's of good stuff here

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