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Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:20 AM

'Kill Zone'? Were these killers military trained?

The more I hear, the more I think the bastards were well trained in this kind of mayhem.

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Reply 'Kill Zone'? Were these killers military trained? (Original post)
RandySF Jul 2016 OP
Meldread Jul 2016 #1
uponit7771 Jul 2016 #2
alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #5
KittyWampus Jul 2016 #46
Nevernose Jul 2016 #3
uponit7771 Jul 2016 #5
Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #4
uponit7771 Jul 2016 #7
JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #37
rufus dog Jul 2016 #8
HamiltonSwan Jul 2016 #16
rufus dog Jul 2016 #19
HamiltonSwan Jul 2016 #20
AntiBank Jul 2016 #9
gwheezie Jul 2016 #10
AntiBank Jul 2016 #12
uponit7771 Jul 2016 #13
NutmegYankee Jul 2016 #17
AntiBank Jul 2016 #21
NutmegYankee Jul 2016 #24
AntiBank Jul 2016 #25
ecstatic Jul 2016 #11
sarisataka Jul 2016 #14
AntiBank Jul 2016 #15
ecstatic Jul 2016 #18
AntiBank Jul 2016 #23
ecstatic Jul 2016 #26
AntiBank Jul 2016 #27
BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #29
AntiBank Jul 2016 #31
BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #32
AntiBank Jul 2016 #33
BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #34
Nevernose Jul 2016 #22
BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #28
uponit7771 Jul 2016 #30
Hoyt Jul 2016 #35
hobbit709 Jul 2016 #38
uponit7771 Jul 2016 #40
anoNY42 Jul 2016 #36
Ex Lurker Jul 2016 #39
anoNY42 Jul 2016 #42
uponit7771 Jul 2016 #41
tblue37 Jul 2016 #43
adigal Jul 2016 #44
Javaman Jul 2016 #45
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2016 #47

Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:22 AM

1. Yeah, I felt early on that whoever is involved has military training.

It was obviously coordinated, planned, and clearly targeted.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:25 AM

2. I just posted something like this in another site, the vid of the cop being shot in the back close

... range the shooter was NOT someone who just grabbed a gun and went nuts.

He moved viewing through gun site like he KNEW what he was doing... military like, shooting around the corner like a pro and getting out of the area.

They KNEW what they were doing and timed it perfect, it HAD to be someone who KNEW the path of the protest and where the DFW LEOS were going to be.

This was NO small event

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:29 AM

5. Trained, organized, disciplined. Revved up the op in hours

 

Would certainly bet former military, probably with urban combat experience.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 09:07 AM

46. I am very busy and trying to keep up w/this story. I respect you and the previous poster…

 

so your opinion the killers were trained and possibly military is taken as a real possibility.

Thanks for your input.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:26 AM

3. Either military or a whole lot of paintball n/t

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:29 AM

5. +1

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:28 AM

4. They probably had AR-15's

 

Why are weapons of war even legal?

We are a dumb fucking country.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:32 AM

7. Yeap, stupid shit... a device DESIGNED to kill as many humans as possible is available

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:25 AM

37. A scoped hunting rifle would be a snipers tool.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:32 AM

8. it will take some time to unwind this whole mess

Does seem very well coordinated, did it jell in the last 24 to 48 hours or was it planned waiting for an event to occur to take the plan to action?

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:52 AM

16. From the PD chief's comments the demonstration was planned

 

He made a reference to Dallas police attending planning meetings with the event organizers beforehand which is fairly common for events of all kinds in large cities where there is potential for a lot of people to be in one place at one time.

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Response to HamiltonSwan (Reply #16)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:54 AM

19. I'm questioning the planning of the shooters

Seems like more than a few people involved and planning involved to maximize carnage.

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:55 AM

20. Oh yes, no doubt about it. Sorry i misread your post.

 

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:33 AM

9. I have been saying this since it started. No civilians hit that I

 

know of other than one minor injury. All in a hyper stressful crowed action theatre. It reeks of paramilitary. The videos I have seen of one of the perps drawing out and executing a cop is done with such precision he has to be military or ex mil.

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Response to AntiBank (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:37 AM

10. Now reporting bombs placed all over dallas

This is not a bunch of amateurs

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Response to gwheezie (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:40 AM

12. active negotiations with one of the shooters atm. El Centro

 

garage. One of the possible suspects is female too.

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Response to AntiBank (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:41 AM

13. +1

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Response to AntiBank (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:52 AM

17. CBS is interviewing family of a protestor who was shot - so there are civilian casualties

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #17)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:55 AM

21. read my post. there was one that I know of

 

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Response to AntiBank (Reply #21)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:01 AM

24. The civilian will be in surgery for hours - not a minor injury.

In fact, the injury as described by her sister may require a lot of work for recovery.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #24)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:05 AM

25. the local and national streams called it minor. I hope they

 

fully recover as it seems to be worse.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:38 AM

11. Look at how the discussion has changed. Now cops want their military

equipment reinstated, and for President Obama and everyone protesting to sit down and STFU. This was clearly a well coordinated, pre-planned attack. That's why the "suspects" are still in the run. Since when do protesters have bombs, BTW?

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:42 AM

14. So are you thinking

this is a false flag op?

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #14)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:46 AM

15. beat me to it

 

I am not that ready to put on the tin foil yet.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #14)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:53 AM

18. Nope. I believe the reports that say that 4 officers died.

I'm referring to the motives behind the attack.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:58 AM

23. that is what the poster meant

 

False flag is when you stage a real attack for ulterior motives and also usually use patsies as public perp cover for the real actors

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Response to AntiBank (Reply #23)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:09 AM

26. I thought with false flag ops, the victims don't really exist

And the witnesses and/or families are "crisis" actors?

Anyway, I have no idea what's going on, but I have opinions, like everyone else. While most assume this was a revenge attack, I see it as a "get back in line" attack. It boils down to trust and credibility.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #26)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:12 AM

27. No no. Not necessarily. Crisis actors are IMHO total fiction.

 

Flase flags are almost always real impact and have been around for thousands of years.

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Response to AntiBank (Reply #27)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:13 AM

29. Yep. And in fact you can find footage on YouTube of actual crisis actors in action.

 

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Response to BlueNoMatterWho (Reply #29)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:22 AM

31. I think most of that isnt real. IF it is we are way more fucked

 

than the limits of this board permit to be discussed.

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Response to AntiBank (Reply #31)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:36 AM

32. The crisis actors I was referring to took place in Egypt and other places. Not Dallas.

 

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Response to BlueNoMatterWho (Reply #32)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:43 AM

33. Some of the vids I have seen revolve around US mass shootings or the Boston

 

Bombing. The Alex Jones crew, neo nazi scum, lunatic fringe alt-right and alt-left eat that shit up like manna. I don't traffic in their uber paranoia and or schizophrenia.

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Response to AntiBank (Reply #33)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:47 AM

34. Neither do I.

 

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:55 AM

22. There haven't been any bombs yet

Just the threat of bombs.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:12 AM

28. No panic from the shooter. Not the first time he's been under fire.

 

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Response to BlueNoMatterWho (Reply #28)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:14 AM

30. +1

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:14 AM

35. This kind of training is popular among gun fanciers. Here's tactical training place right in Dallas.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #35)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:31 AM

38. No amount of training substitutes for the real thing.

first time under real fire the initial reaction is to freeze or panic.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #38)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:34 AM

40. +1, the shooter who executed the cop on the ground didn't freeze at all... no doubt they had enough

... training not to freeze up.

This guy wasn't shaken at all by what was happening

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:22 AM

36. Honestly (as a vet)

 

It doesn't take much training to set up an ambush.

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Response to anoNY42 (Reply #36)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:33 AM

39. A lot of this stuff can be learned from first-person shooter games

and I am not joking.

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Response to Ex Lurker (Reply #39)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:35 AM

42. The best games try to get as close as possible to the real thing.

 

Then there is Duke Nukem, where I learned that my friend had memorized the spots where other players would appear when they came back to life, and would meet them with a rocket already on the way.

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Response to anoNY42 (Reply #36)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:35 AM

41. The vid of the cop execution on the ground was by someone who knew what they were doing...

... this wasn't video game level actions by a wanna be, this person had enough near live practice to move without flinching one bit

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:37 AM

43. Sounds like militia members with military experience. Sovereign citizen types. nt

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:54 AM

44. I thought the same thing with their tactics

 

These people are trained in killing. What the hell happened to their brains to justify this?

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 08:58 AM

45. of course they were trained...

no untrained person could do that kind of damage with that kind of accuracy in that short of period of time.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 09:09 AM

47. Not trained well enough to evade capture though.

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