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Trump still running with "Sheriff's badge" lie... (Original Post) Archae Jul 2016 OP
lol does he explain why a sheriff's badge treestar Jul 2016 #1
Or why he changed it, if it was so innocuous? gratuitous Jul 2016 #5
I heard one of Trump's surrogates refer to it as a "geometric shape" on CNN lapucelle Jul 2016 #2
Another said there's not an antisemitic bone in Trump's body pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #7
He loves the Jewish people PJMcK Jul 2016 #8
"WHERE IS MY JEW-BOY??" bullwinkle428 Jul 2016 #18
I'll admit ignorance here. PearliePoo2 Jul 2016 #3
The star badge that the NAZIs forced Jews to wear was yellow. eom rogerashton Jul 2016 #4
Ok, thanks for that. PearliePoo2 Jul 2016 #9
The Star of David is slightly different PJMcK Jul 2016 #6
I looked at it. Igel Jul 2016 #14
since you spent all your observational prowess on seeing the Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #21
Hey, a lot of geometric designs look like swastikas ! eppur_se_muova Jul 2016 #19
Jewish son in law, converted daughter and jewish grandkids and he won't apologize. bullimiami Jul 2016 #10
Exactly. no_hypocrisy Jul 2016 #11
Rrriiighhhttt Mendocino Jul 2016 #12
He's actually trying to say greymattermom Jul 2016 #13
It's the dishonest media trying to make a big deal of this, I tell you. Eugene Jul 2016 #15
Right! And these nice people are waving to their friends across the room. Fritz Walter Jul 2016 #16
he. is. full. of. shit. spanone Jul 2016 #17
it's being repeated now by a surrogate on MSNBC napkinz Jul 2016 #20
and the twit questioning him let him get away with blatant lies Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #22
another surrogate defending Trump said on MSNBC the other day ... napkinz Jul 2016 #23

lapucelle

(18,235 posts)
2. I heard one of Trump's surrogates refer to it as a "geometric shape" on CNN
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jul 2016

The push back was brutal: "It's not a geometric shape. It's a Star of David superimposed over $100 bills."

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. Another said there's not an antisemitic bone in Trump's body
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:29 AM
Jul 2016

Ed Brookover, Senior Advisor to the Trump campaign, went on to say that there is not one ounce, not one cell, of bigotry in Trump.

SO STOP SAYING THAT!


PJMcK

(22,025 posts)
8. He loves the Jewish people
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jul 2016

And they love him!

Look at his Jewish supporter over there!


(sarcasm, if needed)

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
9. Ok, thanks for that.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:34 AM
Jul 2016

Dump and company claiming it's a sheriff's badge is beyond pathetic.
This really of reminds me of another blatant, hate-filled poster by a racist P.O.S. "That isn't a cross-hair, it's a surveyor marker" (targeting Gabby Gifford's district and others)

PJMcK

(22,025 posts)
6. The Star of David is slightly different
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:28 AM
Jul 2016

It's made of two interlocking triangles:



The Israeli flag has a blue Star of David on a white field. But I believe that the color is unimportant and it's the outlined triangles that distinguish the Star of David from just a six-pointed star.

Importantly, the shape- whether in outline or filled in- is very strongly associated with the Hebrew tradition and Jewish religion. It's nearly impossible to accept the excuses coming from the Trump Campaign. How could they not realize what they were implying? It's as if they used a swastika or a cross and said they were just geometric figures. They just got caught making a blatantly anti-semitic image and caved when they got called on it.

Donald Trump is a liar and a coward. He's also an idiot.

Igel

(35,293 posts)
14. I looked at it.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jul 2016

"Star of David" isn't the first thing that came to mind. Had to think for what it most reminded me of. So familiar, yet what was the symbol symbolizing ... Then I got it.

Police benevolent association stickers and sheriff's badges. (Also general weirdness on my part, since sometimes when putting a star next to something I'll scrap the pentagram and doing a 6- or 8-pointed star just for the heck of it.)

"Star of David"? Went back to the red-emblazoned image and with a bit of chagrin shrugged, "Oh, yeah. That."

Now, keep in mind that every Saturday I sit for stand for a couple of hours behind men who are wearing tallit and kippas with stars of David on them at a messianic synagogue, intoning the Ma Tovu and Shema' in Hebrew and in English, watching the Torah procession and listening to the oleh read the parashot. So it's not like I haven't see a Magen David fairly recently. (Not my choice, but my wife's choice. People keep waiting for me to start wearing tzitzit. Not gonna happen.)


The magen David is strongly associated with Jewish tradition, but played a trivial to non-existent role in antiquity. The Rabbis even have little to say about it and it only really shows up in later centuries, and only long after that is interpreted as either the "seal of Solomon" or "the shield of David". It's like tying Shavuot in with the law giving at Mt. Sinai. The Mishna and Talmud are quiet in this regard, but later tradition is all we see and we project it back centuries or millennia more than we should.

It's also the kind of thing that you might not notice if you're not looking for it. It plays a part in Jewish tradition, but in Irish tradition it's not really identified with anything, as far as I know. (Then again, what do I know about Irish tradition. I'm a non-observant Gael, except for corned beef and cabbage ... even then I mostly miss St. Patrick's day because, well, I'm not Catholic.)

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
21. since you spent all your observational prowess on seeing the
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jul 2016

sheriff's badge, you missed the PILE OF MONEY

puhhhleeeease. with your in depth knowledge of Judaic symbolism, surely you might have remembered those silly old Nazis and the rich jews with money ruining the Weimar economy?

never heard about that connection, have you?

eppur_se_muova

(36,257 posts)
19. Hey, a lot of geometric designs look like swastikas !
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jul 2016
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(Before the Nazis appropriated them, swastikas used to be seen more widely, being religious symbols in Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, and some Native American religions. There's a nice long article at Wikipedia on the long, long history/protohistory of the swastika. I remember seeing swastikas embedded in the tilework of an old apartment building in Pittsburgh -- probably dating from the '20s or early '30s, before the swastika was stigmatized.

This ancient Roman mosaic uses both left- and right-facing swastikas:


The Nazis used the 'right-facing' swastika, which looks like it could be formed by superposing two jagged 'S's, as found in the SS insignia:

Whether this was intentional or not, it helps to remember which is which; the other form, the "ZZ" form, was not used by the Nazis but most people don't spot the difference. )



bullimiami

(13,083 posts)
10. Jewish son in law, converted daughter and jewish grandkids and he won't apologize.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jul 2016

There is something seriously wrong with him.

Mendocino

(7,484 posts)
12. Rrriiighhhttt
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:54 AM
Jul 2016

and the confederate flag just shows southern pride, the swastika only a Hindu/Buddhist/Jainist symbol. That's not a noose, it's just a part of my rope collection.

Eugene

(61,846 posts)
15. It's the dishonest media trying to make a big deal of this, I tell you.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jul 2016

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Pay no attention to that image coming from a hate site.

Do I need that /sarcasm thingy?

Source: The Guardian

Donald Trump blames 'dishonest media' in furor over 'antisemitic' Clinton tweet

Edward Helmore in New York
Monday 4 July 2016 16.26 BST

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“We’ve been troubled by the tone of this campaign for the past six months,” said Jonathan Greenblatt, national director and CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, also speaking to CNN.

“The first time something like this happens, like the quote from [in fact attributed to] Mussolini, it’s called a mistake. The second time it happens, like you re-tweet from a white supremacist Twitter account, that’s sloppy. But we’re now at the sixth or seventh time the Trump campaign has invoked bigotry or racism. It’s a pattern that’s perplexing, troubling and wrong.”

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/04/donald-trump-antisemitic-hillary-clinton-tweet
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
22. and the twit questioning him let him get away with blatant lies
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jul 2016

about Comey's own editorial mischaracterization of Hillary's misdeeds.

what a surprise

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
23. another surrogate defending Trump said on MSNBC the other day ...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 05:26 PM
Jul 2016

"Trump has been a lifelong friend to the Jewish people. His daughter is Jewish."

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