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Sun Jun 26, 2016, 11:43 AM

 

Is the Democrats’ big gun control stand ending with a whimper?

Since the Orlando massacre nearly two weeks ago, congressional Democrats have spent a total of 41 hours taking dramatic stands (or dramatic sits) in Congress to demand votes on gun-control measures — a 15-hour filibuster in the Senate and a 26-hour sit-in the House. What's come out of all that is decidedly less dramatic.

Take this article, for example. If you're reading this, it's probably because you don't know/don't care/are sick of all the Brexit news. But for the most part, the nation's (short) attention span is currently captivated by Britain's vote to leave the European Union. The House Democrats' 26-hour all-night sit-in on the House floor — a historic moment in its own right — feels like old news at this point. And that was arguably the case even before it ended Thursday, when two major Supreme Court cases came down and quickly took hold of our collective consciousness.

Brexit or not, on Friday morning, a bipartisan group of House lawmakers stepped into the muggy D.C. heat in the shadow of the Capitol and unveiled their version of a gun-control compromise in the Senate. (We explain the compromise here, but its essence is: No guns for people on two of the FBI's terror watch lists that prevent or make it hard for people to fly.) To our earlier point, their unveiling was mostly drowned out by other news. A few of the reporters covering it were also tweeting about Brexit.

But there's a bigger problem for gun-control advocates: For all the coverage they did get on their cause this week, we're not sure what they have to show for it. It remains really, really hard to pass new federal gun-control laws, and the one slim area of compromise lawmakers could find seems destined to fail — or not come up for a vote at all. There are three reasons we don't expect to see much from Democrats' dramatic stands on gun control, and two of them come down to House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.). Let's break them down.

Complete article at https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/25/is-democrats-big-gun-control-stand-ending-with-a-whimper/

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Response to Just reading posts (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 11:53 AM

1. Probably, the majority in both houses are NRA Republicans, bought and paid for

and if there's one thing we know about Republicans, they stay bought.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 11:58 AM

2. This allows them to continue being bought in the future

So naturally they want to show their owners they have high ethics (if one pays enough).

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Response to Just reading posts (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:02 PM

3. Phillips summed it up concisely at the end:

 

"Gun control is an issue that animates opponents a lot and animates supporters considerably less so, which is a big reason why Republicans don't feel pressured to act."

In other words, nobody sent Republicans to Washington to pass new gun control bills.

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Response to Just reading posts (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:05 PM

4. The republicans are the reason. Even the most mild and common sense legislation they won't allow

While the majority of Americans do favor that someone on the FBI watch list should not have access to buying an AR15, or other types of semi automatic assault rifle, a lot of Americans love their guns

I suspect most who have an AR15 or similar weapons probably don't even use it after the first few weeks of novelty wears off. The weapons and ammunition are expensive, and I would suspect most who own such weapons would not be considered folks of means

When the assault weapon ban was law under Bill Clinton, were there less mass shootings than since it expired?

Funny that Congress sees fit for weapons in national parks, but does not want weapons allowed in the spectator gallery. I wonder why that is?

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Response to still_one (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:09 PM

6. Politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike, like getting reelected.

 

Republicans who are on the record voting for gun control tend to get primaried by those who aren't.

Voters for whom increased gun control is a major issue don't vote for Republicans.

In short, Republicans have nothing to gain and everything to lose by supporting gun control.

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Response to still_one (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:11 PM

8. Do you really think Clinton's AWB actually banned anything?

Adam Lanza's rifle was perfectly legal to buy during that "ban". Hell- it was perfectly legal under CT's even tougher AWB.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:15 PM

10. It did make normal capacity magazines absurdly expensive for a while.

 

That was annoying.

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Response to Just reading posts (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:07 PM

5. No. The house ended its session. This will continue when it reopens.

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Response to Just reading posts (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:10 PM

7. A lot of people support basic gun contol...

 

... But in the end do not vote that way. Until Congresscritters start losing their jobs over gun control stances, there will be no meaningful control.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:14 PM

9. Support for gun control is frequently characterized as "a mile wide and a foot deep".

 

Passionate gun rights activists who actually contribute time and money to their cause probably outnumber passionate gun control activists who do the same by 20 to 1 (or more).

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Response to Just reading posts (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:17 PM

11. Exactly. NT

 

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Response to Just reading posts (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:46 PM

12. Well crafted pro-gun disinformation, again. nt

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