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Thu Jun 23, 2016, 08:27 PM

"Rep. John Lewis is not to be trifled with. He has no time for your shit."

John Lewis -- a believer in non-violent protest -- is the man who, with Hosea Williams, led the march on Selma that became known as Bloody Sunday, and ended up with a fractured skull.

No one else can teach him how to "grow a spine." His is made of titanium.

ON EDIT: SELMA was a great movie about the march and the people involved in it, for anyone who's interested

http://www.biography.com/people/john-lewis-21305903#synopsis



Synopsis

Born near Troy, Alabama, on February 21, 1940, John Lewis grew up in an era of segregation. Inspired by Martin Luther King Jr., he joined the burgeoning Civil Rights Movement. Lewis was a Freedom Rider, spoke at 1963's March on Washington and led the demonstration that became known as "Bloody Sunday." He was elected to Congress in 1986 and received the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2011.

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In 1957, John Lewis left Alabama to attend the American Baptist Theological Seminary in Nashville, Tennessee. There, he learned about nonviolent protest and helped to organize sit-ins at segregated lunch counters. He was arrested during these demonstrations, which upset his mother, but Lewis was committed to the Civil Rights Movement and went on to participate in the Freedom Rides of 1961. Freedom Riders challenged the segregated facilities they encountered at interstate bus terminals in the South, which had been deemed illegal by the Supreme Court. It was dangerous work that resulted in arrests and beatings for many involved, including Lewis.

In 1963, Lewis became chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. That same year, as one of the "Big Six" leaders of the Civil Rights Movement, he helped plan the March on Washington. Lewis—the youngest speaker at the event—had to alter his speech in order to please other organizers, but still delivered a powerful oration that declared, "We all recognize the fact that if any radical social, political and economic changes are to take place in our society, the people, the masses, must bring them about."

After the March on Washington, in 1964, the Civil Rights Act became law. However, this did not make it easier for African Americans to vote in the South. To bring attention to this struggle, Lewis and Hosea Williams led a march from Selma, Alabama, on March 7, 1965. After crossing the Edmund Pettus Bridge, the marchers were attacked by state troopers. Lewis was severely beaten once more, this time suffering a fractured skull. The violent attacks were recorded and disseminated throughout the country, and the images proved too powerful to ignore. "Bloody Sunday," as the day was labeled, sped up the passage of 1965's Voting Rights Act.



http://www.mtv.com/news/2896800/john-lewis-is-not-here-for-your-shit/

HE HAS VISIBLE SCARS FROM BEING HIT IN THE HEAD WITH A WOODEN CRATE WHILE PROTESTING SEGREGATION. HE HAS NO TIME FOR YOUR SHIT

You should not fuck with Representative John Lewis. You should not even begin to contemplate the process of how you might fuck with Representative John Lewis. He is the admiral of Not Today, Satan. He is the general of Not Fucking Having It.

You may disagree with Representative John Lewis. In Georgia, you may vote against him. You can send angry letters to his office. But do not fuck with Representative John Lewis. He has seen worse than whatever you have to give him, and he has handled it better than you could possibly ever begin to. Since 1959, he has stood up for his beliefs, and he has faced abuse and prison and beatings and violence for it, and not once has he ever backed down. And he is not about to start now.

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Reply "Rep. John Lewis is not to be trifled with. He has no time for your shit." (Original post)
pnwmom Jun 2016 OP
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Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #22
pnwmom Jun 2016 #33
John Poet Jun 2016 #34
pnwmom Jun 2016 #40
Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #35
pnwmom Jun 2016 #41
Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #44
pnwmom Jun 2016 #47
lapislzi Jun 2016 #39
Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #45
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aikoaiko Jun 2016 #11
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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 08:51 PM

1. He has no time for due process either

 

I stand with the ACLU. We should not use secret unaccountable list to deny rights.

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Response to Travis_0004 (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 08:55 PM

4. Yeah, much better to have one of the highest rates of gun deaths in the world.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:07 PM

9. You have to understand, due process only applies to the guy that just murdered the other guy

 

with a firearm. See how that works?

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Response to Rex (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:20 PM

16. Right. The guys with the guns get to be judge, jury, and executioner.

No due process for their targets..

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:22 PM

17. None, so when the perp kills themselves like they seem to do on a regular basis

 

they are robbing the victim of any due process...but hey that is okay, cuz the answer as you know is MORE GUNS! Always more guns!

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:37 PM

22. How about we just bust your door down and have a little look-see in your house?

After all, no due process, no right against search and seizure means we can do that and confiscate not only your home and everything in it with no just cause and no warrant, we can send you to Guantanamo because we labeled you a terrorist.

And that nice policeman that you only want to have guns is only more than happy to bash your face in to accomplish it, after all, who are you going to call?

You have no right to call anyone.


YOU can give up your rights, any Democrat willing to abrogate the Constitution is *not a Democrat*.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:43 AM

33. The vast majority of Dems in Congress support no-fly-no-buy and don't view

it as an infringement on the Constitution.

I'm with those Democrats.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #33)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 06:23 AM

34. Do the vast majority of Dems in Congress think that Sen. Ted Kennedy

 

should have been prevented from buying a gun, if he wanted one?

He was on the 'no fly' list, too. Got prevented from boarding a flight in Boston.


I agree that the congress should be allowed to debate these issues, and even demand a vote on them, but using the no-fly list as an exclusive means to prohibit gun purchases is not a very fair plan, if there isn't an effective appeal process built into it. Plenty of people are already on that list who shouldn't be on it, and have a hell of a time getting off it just so they can board an airplane.

I think full background checks are a much better idea for regulating gun purchases.

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Response to John Poet (Reply #34)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:18 AM

40. No. The Dems agree that the procedure for making the list and appealing it

should be improved.

I don't think the no-fly list should be the exclusive means for checking gun purchases. There should also be a universal background check.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #33)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:30 AM

35. Democrats were once all for interning Japanese-American citizens in concentration camps

and confiscating their property in the name of "safety" and "national security".

Do you stand with those Democrats also, against those dirty Japanese?

They were stupendously wrong then, as are Democrats who want to abrogate the Constitution now.


One cannot actually be a Democrat and be in favor of the elimination of Due Process.

One might be a Fascist though.


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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #35)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:19 AM

41. Oh, yeah, this is so similar.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #41)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:10 AM

44. Yes, it is. Do away with Due Process means you can be sent away at any time.

No reason, no explanation, no nothing.

Your name gets on a secret list, your civil rights cease to exist.


Republicans are crowing over the fact that Democrats are record as being against against Due Process.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #44)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:24 AM

47. The Dems support changes to the existing law for the purpose of due process.

So, with those changes, it should be at least as hard to purchase an assault weapon as a plane ticket. It's ridiculous that it isn't.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:44 AM

39. No true Scotsman

Total logical fallacy, as is your slippery slope defense.

You are not the arbiter of who is and who isn't a Democrat. I'm a registered Democrat. And I believe the words in the Constitution were put there in a certain order for a reason, as were the words to the Declaration of Independence. The Constitution is a living document and it has to evolve and be evaluated by living minds in real time.

Being (briefly) prevented (by mistake) from purchasing a weapon of mass murder is an INCONVENIENCE. The right to carry firearms in no way trumps my fucking right to live. That's why it's the SECOND amendment.

Don't you dare tell me who I am or what I have a right to.

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Response to lapislzi (Reply #39)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:17 AM

45. I'll put you down as against Due Process then.

I understand your anger.

Must sting a bit to realize that you actually don't care for the rule of law under the Constitution.




You're on a secret list, and need to jump through Byzantine government hoops and deal with several agencies to get your name off of it.

How about if your right to practice your religion is "briefly" abrogated for three years or so?

How about your right of Free Speech?




You have no problem with other people losing their rights because you think it will never be your name on one of those lists.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #45)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:03 PM

54. Do as you please.

I cared very much for the life of one of the Sandy Hook children, son of a co-worker, who was murdered in his first grade classroom because someone who had no business owning a gun decided it was time to shoot down a classroom full of children and their teachers.

Your sarcasm is repulsive to me.

You have no idea who I am or anything else about me. Fuck your assumptions.

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Response to lapislzi (Reply #54)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:49 PM

55. Appeals to emotion over rule of law.

Your lack of a rational thinking process along with your deliberate crassness are all I need to know about you.

Lynch mobs were made up of people like you.

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Response to Travis_0004 (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:06 PM

8. What due process do those that are murdered by firearms get?

 

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

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Response to Rex (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:13 PM

11. There isnt any evidence that a terror watch listee bought a gun legally, used it in a crime

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:19 PM

15. Most of the people on the watch list are put on there by a computer using an algorithm

 

to come up with names. The entire thing is stupid, like closing your eyes and throwing a dart.

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Response to Rex (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:23 PM

19. All the more reason for their to be transparency and due process to remove oneself from list

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #19)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:24 PM

20. I agree with that, I bet it is impossible to get your name off of the list.

 

Even if you were put on there by a stupid program.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:25 AM

48. That's why they want to change the law so that people who were formerly

on the terror watch list, like Mateen, will trigger an alert when they purchase a gun.

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Response to Travis_0004 (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:18 PM

31. How sad when "free speech" protects corps and gun dealers have "rights".

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #31)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:33 AM

42. Citizens have rights

 

Im sorry if you disagree.

Just curious were you for or against the partiot act?

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Response to Travis_0004 (Reply #42)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:19 AM

46. You'll never get an answer.

People here are tying themselves in knots over this to not sound like Dick Cheney.

Republicans do secret lists: BAD.

Democrats do secret lists: Uh..

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 08:53 PM

2. Congressman John Lewis is a national treasure

I have signed copies of both March 1 and March 2 and I have met Congressman Lewis. He is a great man

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:36 PM

27. Yes he is

I was able to acquire a signed copy of Walking with the Wind a year or two ago, and I treasure it.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 08:54 PM

3. That's all good, but...

 

I'd vote against him on this.

I like my 5th amendment rights.

Even the ACLU says a "no-fly, no-buy" bill is a bad idea. I'm not someone who likes the idea of the government creating secret lists that have no due process attached to them.

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 08:56 PM

5. Do you agree with not even allowing a vote on universal background check?

Not even allowing a vote on no-fly-no-buy?

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:04 PM

6. No fly, but go ahead and buy? Seems just nuts to me. If no fly lists need trimming, that's seperate.

 

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:13 PM

10. I don't want no-fly, no-buy to pass

 

I wouldnt vote for something that is clearly unconstitutional.

Expanded background checks? Sure. But no secret lists that restrict Constitutional rights with no oversight and no due process. I am not going to trash the 1, 2, 4, and 5th amendments just so you can enjoy the illusion of safety.

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:19 PM

14. I have a great solution for you

Instead of a no fly no buy bill, how about we repeal the 2nd amendment and take all guns away from civilians, and ban manufacturing and sales of any weapons (other than to the military or police), except for simple hunting rifles/shotguns and pistols that are not semii-auto and can't hold magazines. Only the two or so bullets you can load in them at one time. We could even go back to the musket that was used at the time the 2nd was written. That way nobody has to worry about their civil rights being taken away, even if they behave suspiciously like a mass murderer.

I think that could work.

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Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #14)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:29 AM

49. Sure

The same police and military that is frequently accused of being racist, sexist, fascist, homophobic and warmongers. You want only them to have the guns.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #49)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:31 PM

52. There are ways to change the police

but having an all out war with them is not one of them. They would bring in swat and National Guard, and then the military if necessary. And you think your guns can stand up to that?

This isn't the wild wild west any more.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:04 PM

7. Excellent

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:18 PM

12. No shit.

 

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:18 PM

13. I'll never forget the "“I never saw him. I never met him.” disparagement.


John Lewis put his life on the line for civil rights, but he is also capable of political stunts.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:22 PM

18. That wasn't a stunt. It was the truth. John Lewis knew who the leaders were

and who weren't.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #18)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:36 PM

21. Right. John Lewis can do not wrong.


A reporter was asking John Lewis to comment on Sander's civil rights leadership and activity at an announcement of the CBC Political Action Committee's endorsement of HRC and Lewis to shut down any inference that Bernie may have tried to help black folks.

As Mother Jones reported previously, Sanders was involved in the campus chapter of the Congress on Racial Equality (CORE), another civil rights group:

During his junior year, Sanders, by then president of the university's CORE chapter, led a picket of a Howard Johnson's restaurant in Chicago, part of a coordinated nationwide protest against the motel and restaurant chain's racially discriminatory policies. Sanders eventually resigned his post at CORE, citing a heavy workload, and took some time off from school.

Under Sanders' leadership, the CORE group at University of Chicago joined forces with SNCC's campus chapter, held sit-ins to protest segregation in university-owned apartment buildings, and raised money for voter registration efforts focused on African Americans.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/02/john-lewis-bernie-sanders-civil-rights


I'm not saying Bernie was an important civil rights leader, but Lewis knew what he was doing. Lewis was helping his candidate.


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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:40 PM

29. Yes, John Lewis knew exactly what he was doing, and why. n't

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #13)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:51 AM

36. He probably didn't, sanders was not a leader in that movement

 

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #36)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:29 AM

37. I'm sure Lewis never met Sanders or saw him with his own eyes before national office



But that wasn't the implication of his statement. I'm also sure that Lewis knows Bernie's actual involvement for civil rights back in the day.

It is what it is. Politics.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #37)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:31 AM

38. That's what I read in that statement.

 

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:46 PM

23. Love that last part

You should not fuck with Representative John Lewis. You should not even begin to contemplate the process of how you might fuck with Representative John Lewis. He is the admiral of Not Today, Satan. He is the general of Not Fucking Having It.

You may disagree with Representative John Lewis. In Georgia, you may vote against him. You can send angry letters to his office. But do not fuck with Representative John Lewis. He has seen worse than whatever you have to give him, and he has handled it better than you could possibly ever begin to. Since 1959, he has stood up for his beliefs, and he has faced abuse and prison and beatings and violence for it, and not once has he ever backed down. And he is not about to start now

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:04 PM

24. I know that's right!

 

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:29 PM

25. K&R

Thanks, pnwmom!

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:30 PM

26. K&R!

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:38 PM

28. KnR!

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:50 PM

30. K&R. nt

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:18 PM

32. KnR

Thank you, pnwmom.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:01 AM

43. Another K&R

Wish I could rec more than once. Thanks, pnwmom

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:32 AM

50. What a long and distinguished career.

What a brave person, and since he was young.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:36 AM

51. I remember his name from the 60's

I am from New York. Yes, he sounds like a man you don't trifle with, young or old.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #51)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:00 PM

53. SELMA is a great movie. Everyone who hasn't seen it yet should try to. nt

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