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Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:59 AM

 

When Trump, Fox News and McCaul start referring to Robert Dear as a radical Christian who is part of

a movement that promotes violence because it opposes the freedoms which America represents, I will stop suspecting bigotry of those who want to disparage Islam based on the acts of terrorists and who criticize President Obama for disfavoring the scapegoaters preferred term "radical Islam."

ISIS is Islamic in the exact same was the IRA was Catholic. It is true that the members of the IRA were Catholic, and it is true many members of the IRA justified their terroristic acts on religious grounds, but to call the IRA "a radical branch of Catholicism" is only something a complete fucking moron would do. This same reasoning applies to ISIS. Donald Trump and Republican House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Mike McCaul are fucking morons. We should be smarter than that.

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Vote2016 Jun 2016 OP
Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #1
MisterP Jun 2016 #2
Vote2016 Jun 2016 #3
oberliner Jun 2016 #4
Scurrilous Jun 2016 #5
Vote2016 Jun 2016 #6
Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #7

Response to Vote2016 (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 01:33 PM

1. Exactly!

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Response to Vote2016 (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 01:49 PM

2. right--it was latae sententiae excommunication to join the IRA: the very moment your active mind

made a conscious decision to join it (didn't even have to be informed decision) any Sacraments you took were illicit heck, its leaders were hardbitten atheist Leninists
Boko Haram/IS in fact is defined by a doctrine of completely ignoring the ulema and making your own interpretations (and isn't that what American experts and Mideastern exiles and New Atheists and Eustonites were demanding for a decade? too bad they forgot what happened in the Protestant Reformation); even in Paris/Berlin the IS murderers were aficionados of pork, spent Fridays in very un-mosque-like activities, and basically lived in a haze of weed and ethanol
what happens in both cases is that "Catholic" or "Muslim" are boiled down to pure identity, which can be as vacuous as it likes--because if there were any criteria involved you have a zealot who makes their own choices, not a perfect gunman to strike a blow at a phantom foe

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Response to MisterP (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 05:09 PM

3. Totally agreed!

 

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Response to MisterP (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 05:22 PM

4. Indonesia homosexuality fatwa: Ulema Council issues same-sex punishment

 

IT IS known for its conservative rule and harsh punishment for anyone daring to break its laws.

But Indonesia’s most influential Muslim clerical organisation has gone one further and issued a fatwa calling for same-sex acts to be punished by caning and even the death penalty.

The semi-official Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) which issued the religious edict equates homosexuality with a curable disease with related sexual acts “that must be heavily punished”.

The council also called gay and lesbians deviants who are affront to the “dignity of Indonesia” according to Human Rights Watch which has expressed grave concerns about the fatwa.

http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/indonesia-homosexuality-fatwa-ulema-council-issues-samesex-punishment/news-story/e206a9a53acf0944c4de40c61bef3dab

Indonesia's highest Islamic clerical body issues fatwa proposing death penalty for people caught having gay sex

The Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) said homosexuality is a 'disease'

Indonesia's most prominent Islamic clerical body has issued a fatwa proposing a host of punishments for "homosexual crimes" - including the death penalty.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/indonesias-highest-islamic-clerical-body-issues-fatwa-proposing-death-penalty-for-people-caught-10111564.html

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Response to Vote2016 (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 05:28 PM

5. I see you haven't woken about Islam...



The war on [strike]Islam[/strike] terrorism has given many license to unleash their inner bigotry toward Muslims.

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Response to Scurrilous (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 05:35 PM

6. There is much bigotry that has been unleashed

 

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Response to Vote2016 (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:35 PM

7. No kidding!

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