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(13,029 posts)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:26 PM Jun 2016

What will it take?

Another shooting. Another massacre. Lots of innocent people dead. Again.

And we see all of the same things. Again. Posts filled with grief and outrage. Endless variations on “We are Orlando” or “Fuck the NRA” or “This madness must stop!” New icons to show solidarity.

But we all know what happens next. And very soon. Because we’ve seen that so very many times as well. The news blitz tails off and our attention moves to other things. Because school is out, and things have gotten kind of crazy. Or school just started, and things have gotten kind of crazy. Or Lollapalooza is in town this weekend. Or damn, wasn’t that episode of Game of Thrones last night awesome?

And we who are left go back to our lives, as our shock and outrage slowly fade, to be replaced by new concerns. Some of us less easily than others, but we do. Knowing that it will happen again. Next time in a theater. Or a school. Or a park. We don’t know where or exactly when, but we know deep down that it will, and we mentally cross our fingers, hoping that it won’t be us or someone we know that people will be outraged for the next time.

But what will it take for any of us to say “No. Not this time. I am NOT letting go of this. I am NOT going back to my life until something real and substantial is done to keep this sort of thing from happening again.”?

And whatever it takes, if we haven’t experienced it by now, can we really expect that the next time will somehow be the tipping point? Or the time after that? If not this time, what other future can we look forward to but an endless repetition of the same tragic events?

What will it take?

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What will it take? (Original Post) skepticscott Jun 2016 OP
I'll take a vodka martini, shaken not stirred. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #1
For starters it will take a brand new congress and a complete flush Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #2
These incidents don't even spur action on things most everyone agrees on. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #3
Right to bear arms RobertEarl Jun 2016 #4
Time. No one knows how much but it is inevitable. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #5

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
2. For starters it will take a brand new congress and a complete flush
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jun 2016

of the deluge of money that has corrupted our governments from the state house to the white house.


Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
3. These incidents don't even spur action on things most everyone agrees on.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jun 2016

For example, only real fringe-dwellers, the hardcore anti-government, anti-tax, nascent "sovereign citizen" types, dispute that our mental health system suffers from decades of systemic neglect, and that decay has contributed significantly to many of these incidents.Yet the decay continues and nothing is done.

A hugely contentious area like significant additional gun regulations doesn't stand a chance.



(13,685 posts)
4. Right to bear arms
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jun 2016


But there is no right to have a gun that can shoot many bullets in a few seconds.

So we need to make sure such mass-killer weapons are melted down.

I figure One Gun -- One Bullet, ought to suffice.

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