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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYour opinion of Donald Trump?
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He's not a billionaire for nothing. | |
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We should appreciate how he made his fortune and he should be commended for that. | |
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He's a rich kid who's gotten away with everything all his life. | |
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He's a racist, greedy bastard. | |
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He's an arrogant, demagogic psychopath. | |
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He's lower than whale shit and that is at the bottom of the ocean. | |
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GoneOffShore
(17,748 posts)Warpy
(113,131 posts)Also, remember in 1999 he said if he ever ran for President, he'd run as a Republican because Republicans were so stupid. He was absolutely right about that and the way he's played the press is masterful. He didn't have to spend a dime on advertising for a very long time.
Since his statements are all over the place, nobody knows just who or what he is, only that he's whipping up crowds of angry half wits to incite violence against everybody who isn't a rich WASP native born male.
Different Drummer
(9,073 posts)stage left
(3,050 posts)That describes him perfectly. And it drives him nuts so that makes it even more perfect.
think
(11,641 posts)L. Coyote
(51,134 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,229 posts)Therefore, unfit for public office.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)
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OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Oh, wait. Those are the opinions ascribed to me by some Hillary supporters on this board.
Personally, I think he's an asshole.
Mendocino
(7,971 posts)Fat head, little hands, giant asshole.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)or care, really.
None of the answers really seem to fit.
Plus, I like to talk more about policy than about people. Trump may be a super nice and super talented guy, but what is he proposing to do as President?
I don't need to believe he is Satan incarnate in order to be strongly against him. In fact, I think the desire by some people to alway be demonizing other people is NOT a good thing.
I think it is odd some of the people that I know on facebook. They do not just want Hillary to NOT be President. They want her to goto jail.
I keep wanting to quote from Vonnegut's book "Mother Night" but of course, I can never find my copy of it. Towards the end, the narrator, Howard Campbell says "where is evil? It's that part of every man that wants to hate with God on his side." Or something like that.
So far the only answers to the poll seem based in that - hatred with God on it's side.
What I do believe I know about Trump is simply this - he is NOT on the side of Ordinary Americans.
Of course the trouble with that is, that his supporters will respond - neither is Hillary.
And I don't think they are wrong.
kentuck
(113,330 posts)
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)but it is a moot point anyway, because I will take bets that he is gonna get Kansas six electoral votes anyway (unless something really strange happens).
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)to think Hillary is NOT on the side of Ordinary Americans.
kentuck
(113,330 posts)Do you sit it out if Bernie is not the nominee?
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)I didn't think Obama was on the side of Ordinary Americans (and still don't), and considered Jill Stein (Rocky Anderson was my first choice, but he wasn't on the ballot here.), but I decided to vote for Obama because it would make it just one vote harder to steal. (I expected Romney to "win", given the amount of money spent by Big Money donors. Anonymous claims to have subverted an attempt to steal the election. Maybe they really did.)
I might do the same thing this year.
Warpy
(113,131 posts)because he contradicts himself every time he opens his mouth. The only consistent thing about him is whipping up crowds of angry morons to hate everybody but WASP rich men.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)I was gonna say something about him flip-flopping on policy but I never really got around to it. He proposed, of course, ginormous tax cuts for the rich, but then said other things about taxes that made him sound like Obama (not that that is a good thing, I have been horrified to see Obama promote the idea of lower tax rates - but he at least seemed to be backing off from his earlier proposal (which neither he, nor the media, spent a lot of time talking about)
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)One day they're mocking mandates and the next thing you know they are telling you to eat your peas.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)I'm far from certain that the Democrats will beat him, but I *am* certain that they have a much better chance of doing so than any other candidate the Republicans could have picked.
Initech
(104,209 posts)
yuiyoshida
(43,371 posts)They're good people. They work hard. They make wonderful fortune cookies...
ever eaten a fortune cookie? They are wonderful. Just amazing. And how they
stick those little fortunes in there... You have to wonder. How do they do that?
Its marvelous. Fantastic. I could eat a dozen!
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)yuiyoshida
(43,371 posts)thanks for telling me, wish some would have told me just before, I forget these things!
Dont call me Shirley
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Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)There was an OP in GD a few weeks ago about Trump using hypnotic techniques in his delivery.
Trump crushed the Republican field without breaking a sweat, he's a lot more than the crass buffoon image he cultivates so well.
Angel Martin
(942 posts)Trump is not someone to be underestimated. He totally smoked a big field of Repubs who by conventional standards were experienced, credible candidates.
And he did it with a mix of juvenile insults, contradictory positions and attacks that everyone condemned. The Repubs spent more than $100 mil on negative media in Florida alone and it didn't even touch him.
I see his campaign as a strategy which is "going completely contrarian". Where you get the best advice from campaign consultants on how a successful Repub runs nationally - then you do the exact opposite.
It's the political equivalent of that Seinfeld episode where George does everything "the opposite" and gets hired by the Yankees.
Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)Dangerous and electable if we sit on our asses and assume that sanity will prevail.
Skittles
(162,559 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:17 AM - Edit history (1)
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)The only change I'd make is getting rid of one of the two first choices, which seem to echo each other.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)What we are seeing is Reality TV, directed by Bill Clinton, who talked with Donald Trump prior to Trump's entering the race and reportedly encouraged him to get into it. Bill and Donny are working together to elect Hillary.
The more outrageous Trump is, the more he pushes people, who 2 years ago would have said they would NEVER vote for Hillary, into voting for her in the fall. It's the only way she can plausibly win, so that's the theater show Bill and Donald are producing.
If Hillary is nominated and we really do have a Trump-Clinton race, I'm going to try to develop new hobbies and give up on following presidential politics. I hate reality TV, and I'm convinced that's all a Clinton-Trump race will be -- a reality TV show that ends with Hillary in the White House.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)He makes George W Bush look like Winston Churchill.
Beaverhausen
(24,612 posts)Oh shit am I going to get a hide?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)there... easy
Solly Mack
(94,398 posts)A symptom of what ails Republicans.
Republicans/Conservatives can hide behind free speech all day but there's nothing uplifting or noble (or healthy) about people celebrating their right to embrace ignorance and hate.
Sure, they have that right - but as a country, that people do celebrate their ignorance and hate makes us all less than we could be.
People should strive to end hate and ignorance, not boast about the right to be that way and then wear it as badge of honor.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,961 posts)He knows what to say to get a reaction and receive media coverage.
My opinion: he didn't start out expecting this. He started out making a bunch of outrageous statements figuring that he'd get some attention; be out by Super Tuesday; and then go back to the Apprentice and making real estate deals. As it turned out, he was the right guy making the right comments in the right place at the right time. His voter base breaks down into about three equal parts: the "we need a businessman running things" crowd; the "I'm not thrilled with him, but I'll vote for any Republican" crowd; and the "won't it be a scream when Trump is President" crowd. I was listening briefly to a righty talker in a station in KC who thinks everything Trump says is "right" and "the truth", but doubts whether he actually has any intention to follow through on what he says.
Both Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton have said things to the effect of:"Donald Trump's racist rhetoric isn't who we are in America." Sadly, I think it's exactly who about 35% of us are.
tandem5
(2,077 posts)CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)He spoke of George W. Bush being the worst president in the history of the United States.
Blitzer asked if Trump is sure Bush is absolutely worse than all others who preceded him.
Trump said he couldnt immediately think of anyone who was actually worse.
It is surprising that Republicans overlooked that interview.
I applaud Trump for having addressed it in the debatesand it got the ball rolling to really drive Jeb Bush out.
As for his campaign, I think Trump has punkd just about everyone. He has been greatly entertaining. But in order to win the presidency, he will have to be more than Mr. Entertainer.
Instead of giving Donald Trump the presidency
give him a Special Achievement Emmy Award!
Shoulders of Giants
(370 posts)He's probably the only Republican Hillary Clinton can beat this election year. Fortunately, he's their nominee.
Aristus
(69,368 posts)And he makes Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho look like Mohandas Gandhi.
Different Drummer
(9,073 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)When a player gets so outplayed and is so far behind in a set, he tanks it, meaning he intentionally loses it.
There's nothing about Trump that indicates he wants the job. His grudge du jour is with the Republican Party. Now that he's got all of his enemies throwing their support behind him, he's going to settle scores. That's all. He's going to take them all down with him. That's really quite an accomplishment, by far the most significant achievement of his entire life.
moondust
(20,793 posts)who figured out at a young age that he would never have to work like mere mortals, that he could just leverage all the stuff handed to him to gain even more leverage, then leverage that to gain more, then leverage that...
He must be positively giddy about the idea of having the leverage of the U.S. nuclear arsenal at his fingertips.
tavernier
(13,534 posts)Christmas Eve and Trump gets a visit from three ghosts. The first is George Washington.
"Please sir, tell me what to do to become a great president," says Trump.
"Never tell a lie," says GW.
The second, Jefferson.
Trump asks the same question.
"Respect all people," Jefferson answers.
Abe Lincoln appears.
"What is your advice?" asks Trump.
Lincoln stares for a long while at the Donald before answering.
"You look tired. Maybe you should get out more. Go to the theater."