MSM/Romney camp are going to try and use a news conference quote against him

[WI_DEM]

Quote of the Day
"The private sector is doing fine. Where we're seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government."

-- President Obama, quoted by Brad Phillips, who says the president "uttered a phrase he's going to regret."

The Washington Post reports Mitt Romney blasted the remark says it was "defining what it means to be detached and out of touch" and that it "is going to go down in history as an extraordinary miscalculation and misunderstanding."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/06/08/quote_of_the_day.html

Is it just me or is Romney Camp doing better than the Obama camp in controlling the message or is it that the MSM isn't paying attention to Obama's message?

[B2G]

1. It was an insanely stupid thing to say. n/t

[phleshdef]

2. Why? Its correct.

The private sector is raking in record profits. The stock market is doing just fine. If the public sector would return to its pre-recession levels, we would be sitting at unemployment somewhere in the 6% range, while not perfect, would be pretty close to normal.

[B2G]

5. If the private sector is in such great shape

Why is there still massive unemployment, foreclosures and general malaise?

[JoePhilly]

10. Why is the DOW up 5000+?

Why are corporate profits up 58% since 2009?

Why are big companies sitting on 2 trillion dollars?

Why has the private sector added jobs for the last 27 months?

[B2G]

13. You are missing the point here

For those unemployed/underemployed in the private sector, the response is going to be WTF is he talking about?

[uponit7771]

22. The private sectors job is NOT...NOT to create jobs but to make profit PERIOD. WTF don't people

...understand about this?!?!


YES...You can create and not create ONE SINGLE JOB

[JoePhilly]

31. They will only miss the point because the media won't state what the point is.

And that's the point you miss.

The stimulus Obama got passed brought the unemployment rate down from 10% to about 8%, in less than 3 years. That is a real improvement. We've added jobs for the last 27 months. That is a real improvement.

In fact, if you look at UE from Jan 2008 to Oct 2009, it goes from about 5% to about 10%. The UE was 7.7% in Jan 2009, 8.3% in Feb 2009, 8.7% in March 2009.

Stimulus passed in late Feb 2009. And by Oct of 2009 (about 7 months later), the UE rate starts to DROP. And its continued to drop.

A great link on this ... http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Now ... if you are unemployed, sure you are angry. But if your anger is aimed at Obama, its aimed in the wrong direction. Obama fought to get UE benefits extended. The GOP tried to block him. He's trying to get congress to help home owners refinance their homes to what are now historically low rates, the GOP opposes him. He's trying to keep the student loan rate low, GOP opposes him.

I'm curious, did you listen to Mitt's response on this today, he starts by attacking Obama (which is SOP) claiming Obama is "out of touch" and then, the part the media doesn't mention is that Mitt went on to say that the message from Wisconsin is that the American people don't want the states to rehire laid off teachers, police and firefighters. That's roughly 700,000 jobs Mitt says we don't need.

Have you heard the media mention this? I saw Mitt say it live. I've yet to see the very liberal MSNBC mention it.

And that's the point. The economy is improving. The GOP is doing all it can to block it. And the media is more than willing to do what it can to keep an election that should be a blow out, close.

[rfranklin]

11. Because the one percentets are keeping everything for themselves...

If they would just do some of that "job-creatin'" we would be fine.

[msongs]

14. because "private sector" is all about profit for management/owners/stockholders not workers nt

[phleshdef]

18. Because the public sector has been slashed all to shit. Like the President said.

What part of 6%ish unemployment vs 8%ish unemployment is hard for you to understand?

If we restored the public sector back to pre-recession levels, then we wouldn't even be having this conversation right now.

[uponit7771]

21. You're kidding right? You miss the world wide 99% protest altogether?

Regards

[B2G]

25. No, I'm not kidding

Explain your logic to the millions the private sector laid off and have not rehired.

[1StrongBlackMan]

26. Because ...

the private sector is NOT the american worker. The private sector IS doing well; it's just the American worker that is not doing well.

[B2G]

27. How many Americans work in the private sector?

How well are THEY doing? You all are missing the point as to how this statement will be interpreted by the average voter.

Saying the private sector is doing fine is like saying the publice sector is doing fine based on how wealthy members of Congress are.

[1StrongBlackMan]

29. Do you think ...

this is an attempt to break the private sector/American worker connection, similar to the way OWS broke the wallstreet/mainstreet connection?

Do you think you can help the average voter understand that because the private sector is doing fine (and it is) does not mean that the American worker is doing fine (because we are not)?

[malaise]

28. The private sector would be doing much better

if government led infrastructural programs were supported by the fugging ReTHUGs om Cpngress.

Have a look at the profits of the Private Sector Companies.
One more thing - if companies are replacing workers with technology they can be doing very well with unemployment increasing.

[spanone]

33. if the private sector is sitting on billions of dollars, they're doing fine

insanely stupid post

[Thrill]

3. Nothing funnier than Mittens

saying someone is out of touch

[jpbollma]

4. Mitt is doing a better job controlling

the message, and other Dems muddling the message isn't helping. We need to turn this ship around and fast.

[WI_DEM]

6. I agree. They got to get a tighter message and start delivering it consistently and keep their

surrogates in line.

[Thrill]

17. The media is helping him. Thats for sure

But thats not surprise in an election yr

[JoePhilly]

32. A complicit media won't help.

Mitt isn't controlling the message.

I watched Obama's statement live. Immediately after, on MSNBC, that quote was all they talked about.

A little while later, MSNBC went to Mitt, who was not also using that statement to attack Obama.

Mitt did not control the message, the media did.

[pinto]

7. Cherry picking. And, yes, state/local employment is struggling. Hence his focus on aid to states.

Those dollars would provide an immediate measure of relief and stimulus to infrastructure and public sector hiring.

[Life Long Dem]

8. 4.3 million private sector jobs in 27 months

About 160,000 jobs a month. But hey, facts just get in the way of BS.

[enough]

9. Of course they will use that. Why wouldn't they. We would be using it too if

Romney had said it. (nt)

[librechik]

19. Mitt said "I don't care about the poor" Yes I remember that media firestorm

as the entire 5th estate blasted Mitt repeatedly...wait, no, that never happened.

Who OWNS the Media? a few Republican billionaires. That's why we don't control the message.

[JoePhilly]

12. The media wants a close election, period.

The media bounced on it 2 seconds after Obama said it ... and then 30 minutes later, Mitt is using it.

[WI_DEM]

15. I agree and it's looking like they are going to get their wish

Obama needs to shake things up somehow, because I think the Romney camp is out classing the Obama camp on messaging.

[NCTraveler]

16. "The private sector is doing fine"

Unfortunately the people Obama knows in the private sector are doing fine. It is all relative to where in the private sector income scale you fall. I am sure Timmy informs Obama of how well his private sector friends are doing every day.

[uponit7771]

23. Yes, the private sector IS doing fine, that doesn't mean they have to hire people either

...come on people.

PROFIT =! jobs

[phleshdef]

20. The President should come out and say it again, only with some anger. Because its fucking true.

I'm sick of this disingenious bullshit. Shove the god damn MATH in their faces. Get on up the tv with a projector and pop some charts up. Go Ross Perot on their asses with it. We need to stimulate the public sector in order to push us on over the hump.

[NCTraveler]

30. Please post statistics for recent college grads and minority groups with respect to private sector..

Please post statistics for recent college grads and minority groups with respect to private sector employment.

Show me what you would put up on the projector and charts to show how good the private sector economy is for recent college grads and minority groups.

I am not saying it isn't doing well for you and your friends. I am not saying it isn't rolling along for Obama and his friends. But in no way is it doing fine for the masses. It is systemically flawed and people are hurting. No chart will overcome that.

Your stats on the private sectors success for recent collage grads and minority groups please.

[phleshdef]

34. The point is going way over your head.

The private sector has been growing for the past 3 years. Theres been over 4 million private sector jobs during that time. The private sector is sitting on a huge wad of cash. The private sector does not need more corporate welfare in order to grow. It has GROWN. The only reason its not hiring more is because demand is lagging. Meanwhile, the public sector has been cut all to shreds. The big gap in the overall economy is caused by the public sector layoffs and lack of new public sector jobs. If we fill the hole in the public sector with a real public jobs program, then the private sector would benefit tremendously as well because the increase in employment in the public sector would boost demand for the entire economy overall.

So no, I'm not going to provide you with shit. Because it has no relevance to my point. The private sector is not lacking growth. The public sector is. I don't need a chart to prove that. You already know I'm right.

[NCTraveler]

36. No point went over my head.

Your lack of an answer explains all I need to know.

[phleshdef]

38. I did give you an answer. Just not the one you wanted to hear.

Ignoring my argument doesn't discount the validity of it, regardless of how inconvenient it may be for your preferred narrative.

[1StrongBlackMan]

24. I smell a patented ...

President Obama Campaign trap!

Think about it ... think about what he actually said ...

"The private sector is doing fine. Where we're seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government."

Now think about what the gop/msm has jumped upon ... "the 'job creators' are hurting."

Now, when the gop goes full bore with that ... the President Obama campaign points to the private sector's record profits, wall-streets doubling since he came to office and even the enemic jobs GROWTH for May ... which takes us where we want to be ... disconnecting the "private sector" from the American worker.

The private sector (job-creators) IS doing fine; it's just YOU, the American Worker, that is not doing fine; why support the gop's plans to benefit the "job creators", when the "job creators" are creating jobs, despite doing well.

[GeorgeGist]

35. Most of us aren't good enough to LIVE in the private sector.

[GeorgeGist]

37. It wouldn't surprise me to discover ...

that Obama voted for Reagan.