Sat May 28, 2016, 12:44 PM
TomCADem (16,355 posts)
Inside the Men's Rights Movement—and the Army of Misogynists and Trolls It Spawned (Trump)
New York Magazine recently published a quiz asking, "Who Said It, Donald Trump or a Men’s Rights Activist?"
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/05/who-said-it-donald-trump-or-an-mra.html This quiz brings up the gender resentment that Donald Trump is catering to. When Trump attacks successful women whether they be Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, Megyn Kelly or Susana Martinez, he is definitely not picking them based on their ideology. Rather, it is the fact that his supporters feel resentful of the success of high profile women. This is why Trump can brazenly act like a misogynist. Indeed, Trump's candidacy legitimizes the concerns of many men that women have it easy. Even Trump's pandering to gain Bernie supporters is aimed at portraying the Democratic party as hostile to men by describing a man, Bernie Sanders, being oppressed by two women. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-debating-bernie-sanders Based on the fact that the Democratic nominating process is totally rigged and Crooked Hillary Clinton and Deborah Wasserman Schultz will not allow Bernie Sanders to win, and now that I am the presumptive Republican nominee, it seems inappropriate that I would debate the second place finisher. Likewise, the networks want to make a killing on these events and are not proving to be too generous to charitable causes, in this case, women’s health issues. Therefore, as much as I want to debate Bernie Sanders - and it would be an easy payday - I will wait to debate the first place finisher in the Democratic Party, probably Crooked Hillary Clinton, or whoever it may be. In the eyes of Trump and his supporters, the system is rigged against men. Mother Jones published an article discussing the men's right movement: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/warren-farrell-mens-rights-movement-feminism-misogyny-trolls In 1993, Farrell published his full-throated manifesto, The Myth of Male Power: Why Men Are the Disposable Sex. The book tackled a number of pressing issues affecting men. It also took some bizarre turns: At one point Farrell pondered whether the American male was the new "nigger." ("When slaves gave up their seats for whites, we called it subservience; when men give up their seats for women, we call it politeness."
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TomCADem | May 2016 | OP |
niyad | May 2016 | #1 | |
Wounded Bear | May 2016 | #2 | |
TomCADem | May 2016 | #8 | |
Small Accumulates | May 2016 | #3 | |
Different Drummer | May 2016 | #4 | |
lunatica | May 2016 | #5 | |
TomCADem | May 2016 | #11 | |
IronLionZion | May 2016 | #6 | |
MrScorpio | May 2016 | #7 | |
Initech | May 2016 | #9 | |
smirkymonkey | May 2016 | #10 |
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:47 PM
niyad (74,454 posts)
1. k and r, and waiting for the usual suspects in 3. . . 2. . . . .1 . . . .
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:49 PM
Wounded Bear (42,174 posts)
2. It certainly wouldn't surprise me if MRAs support the Trumpster...
he's about their style, I guess. Lot of victimhood and whining by both.
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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #2)
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:56 PM
TomCADem (16,355 posts)
8. Trump: Men Today "Are Petrified To Speak To Women Anymore," "Women Get It Better Than We Do, Folks"
In addition to the obvious appeals to racism, Trump is also very consciously appealing to resentment by men of the success of women. I think this is a very powerful appeal that Democrats risk underestimating. It scapegoats women for any insecurities men might feel with respect to women whether it be for dating, in a relationship, or in the workplace.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/08/trump_remember_this_when_you_see_hillarys_phony_paid-for-by-wall_street_ads.html "They've already taken $90 million worth of ads," he said. "And their ads are all woman-oriented. You know she is playing the women's card... She's going: Did you know that Donald Trump raised his voice when speaking to a woman? Oh, I'm sorry." |
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:55 PM
Small Accumulates (149 posts)
3. K&R
Thanks for bringing this together in one place.
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Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:57 PM
Different Drummer (5,501 posts)
4. K&R n/t
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:12 PM
lunatica (51,439 posts)
5. As an abused ex-wife
I can sincerely and truthfully say that I never once hit my husband, nor did I taunt him or try to emasculate him into beating me.
When men write about their victimhood at the hands of women they have a real problem with acknowledging the real culprits in their loser lives. |
Response to lunatica (Reply #5)
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:55 AM
TomCADem (16,355 posts)
11. “It wasn’t Ray Rice’s fault”: The sick, twisted logic of Men’s Rights activists on domestic violence
When you hear Trump attacking women all across the ideological spectrum whether it be Megyn Kelley or Susana Martinez to Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren, I think what you are seeing is a deep rooted resentment towards successful women. Worse, to the extent that they are the subject of abuse, harassment or even violence, there is this idea that women are ultimately at fault.
Trump is hardly alone. Many Republicans, including such mainstream Republicans as Paul Ryan, have pushed the idea of legitimate rape as a defense by men against women allegedly being quick to persecute them through charges of rape. However, Trump does drop the dog whistle and replaces it with a bullhorn in actively attacking women who simply fail to actively support him. http://www.salon.com/2014/09/09/it_wasnt_ray_rices_fault_the_sick_twisted_logic_of_mens_rights_activists_on_domestic_violence/ The video of Ray Rice is domestic violence in action: Rice hits his fiancée, she hits a railing on the way down, and then he calmly pulls her limp body out of an elevator. The only time he displays a shred of emotion is when he has trouble getting her legs to clear the elevator door. But if you think concrete video evidence is enough to convince people that Rice was horribly wrong, you must be new to the Internet. The denizens of r/MensRights have a lot to say about Ray Rice and domestic abuse, and it is disturbing: |
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:44 PM
IronLionZion (31,966 posts)
6. Ever encounter a female or minority Trumper?
those people are certifiably insane and scary.
Things get interesting when you stumble upon anti-feminist women writers like Janet Bloomfield: http://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2014/11/7-reasons-why-dating-feminist-men-truly-sucks/ http://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2015/02/5-reasons-women-love-rape-fantasies/ http://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2015/03/if-feminism-is-about-equality-why-do-feminists-oppose-equality/ http://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2015/04/7-things-feminists-hate-to-hear/ http://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2015/04/how-to-teach-a-man-to-eat-pussy-without-being-a-total-btch/ For the record, I love smart successful women, but I have zero tolerance for anyone who is abusive. |
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:21 PM
MrScorpio (72,856 posts)
7. Male Entitlement Frailty...
Because if you're conditioned to always think that you're superior, equality will feel like oppression to you.
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Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Sat May 28, 2016, 06:25 PM
Initech (85,783 posts)
9. My theory is men's rights activisits all scored very low on the South Park TMI index.
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