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BootinUp

(47,138 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:20 PM May 2016

Just heard that Paul Manafort told Howard Fineman this

Rachel Reported it:



The vice presidential pick will also be part of the process of proving he’s ready for the White House, Manafort said.

“He needs an experienced person to do the part of the job he doesn’t want to do. He seems himself more as the chairman of the board, than even the CEO, let alone the COO.”

“There is a long list of who that person could be,” Manafort added, “and every one of them has major problems.”

The campaign probably won’t choose a woman or a member of a minority group, he said. “In fact, that would be viewed as pandering, I think.”


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-paul-manafort-general-election_us_574619eee4b0dacf7ad3e201


Tell me that my country isn't this stupid. I mean I really think he IS goin down, but these f***ers scare me.
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Just heard that Paul Manafort told Howard Fineman this (Original Post) BootinUp May 2016 OP
I think he just admitted that he doesn't want the job. dchill May 2016 #1
It reminds me of how dubya was said to be a CEO. But its different BootinUp May 2016 #4
I have no words beveeheart May 2016 #2
The COB is often the CEO or COO. Rex May 2016 #3
The concern I have with your comment is that's what the media and Jarqui May 2016 #5
You'll have to explain that to me again. BootinUp May 2016 #6
You said this: Jarqui May 2016 #8
I still give Trump a very low probability, BootinUp May 2016 #9
Wanted: Experienced Mgr, no women or minorities need apply, white males only. procon May 2016 #7
What was wrong with the '50's? StarTrombone May 2016 #10
I take you at your word that you really are confused. procon May 2016 #11
I don't know about you StarTrombone May 2016 #16
Good, you got yours, but a lot of us weren't so lucky. procon May 2016 #19
It's amazing that you lived to tell your story of woe StarTrombone May 2016 #20
The 50s had its pros and cons... thesquanderer May 2016 #12
And if you were a single woman what were your options? And if you were married pnwmom May 2016 #14
It wasn't meant to be a complete list. ;-) (n/t) thesquanderer May 2016 #15
If your husband died you got sympathy but your credit was cut off... Hekate May 2016 #22
And if you were a woman in the 60's or 70's pnwmom May 2016 #24
And what Republican with actual government management exp does that leave? Volaris May 2016 #21
"and every one of them has major problems" -- that's something we can all agree with Trump on. pnwmom May 2016 #13
Paul Manafort is an idiot. nt TeamPooka May 2016 #17
Karl Rove was nicknamed Turdblossom, and look at the damage he did to the country. Hekate May 2016 #23
Rove had influence on his candidate/President. Trump listens to no one but Trump TeamPooka May 2016 #25
mr manafort is one slick creep. imagine the trump cabinet... spanone May 2016 #18
Gordon Gecko, Dr Evil, and Carrot-Top. nt TeamPooka May 2016 #26
Wouldn't that be unconstitutional? no_hypocrisy May 2016 #27

BootinUp

(47,138 posts)
4. It reminds me of how dubya was said to be a CEO. But its different
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:29 PM
May 2016

what it says to me: is don't worry if Donald is not qualified, elect the ticket. Donald isn't gonna really do anything reckless.

But the fact is, he will be the President if elected, that we would have a completely unqualified buffoon in charge of the most powerful military on the planet.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
5. The concern I have with your comment is that's what the media and
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:29 PM
May 2016

many others were saying when he entered the primary.

Part of it is that folks are so fed up with the status quo in Washington that they'd entertain a wacky CEO like Trump as an upgrade.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
8. You said this:
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:54 PM
May 2016
"Tell me that my country isn't this stupid. I mean I really think he IS goin down, but these f***ers scare me."


That reminded me a lot of what people were saying when Trump entered the primary ... yet here he stands, the winner of that process.

Some of it isn't stupidity - though I can't stand Trump - in that people are fed up and Trump is the result.

I can't stand Trump or the GOP but more Hillary lies came to light today and she's making it really tough for me to support her. A bunch of independents can't stand Hillary and they'll be supporting Trump because the hate Hillary more.

BootinUp

(47,138 posts)
9. I still give Trump a very low probability,
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:59 PM
May 2016

but Manafort is another evil genius type, the reason he is saying this is because he already knows Trump can't win unless he says shit like this.

Anyways, don't forget that a primary and a ge are quite different as well.

procon

(15,805 posts)
7. Wanted: Experienced Mgr, no women or minorities need apply, white males only.
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:35 PM
May 2016

Make Our Country Great Again - Take it back to the 50s!

 

StarTrombone

(188 posts)
10. What was wrong with the '50's?
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

Someone started a thread here today saying that we should be grateful to FDR for the wonderful times we enjoyed in the 1950's and that if we dissed Bernie we were pissing on FDR

Now I'm confused

procon

(15,805 posts)
11. I take you at your word that you really are confused.
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:42 PM
May 2016

But do tell us all about the "wonderful times we enjoyed in the 1950's"?

 

StarTrombone

(188 posts)
16. I don't know about you
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:26 PM
May 2016

But when I grew up in the 50s times were good

Hell, we had just come out of 16 years of Democratic Party rule and Ike was being pressured by both parties to run
As matter of fact, up until fucking LBJ pulled his Gulf of Tonkin bullshit it was a great time to be growing up

procon

(15,805 posts)
19. Good, you got yours, but a lot of us weren't so lucky.
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:14 AM
May 2016

For any educated single female, the 50s sucked. Sexual harassment, no benefits, low pay... yeah, that was the norm. You couldn't rent an apartment alone, or get a loan for a car or a house unless a man cosigned for you.

It wasn't a magical time and the streets weren't lined with gum-drop trees. Kids in my school were getting polio, and my cousins were off fighting the Korean War. We did A-bomb drills in class, believing our desks would protect us from nuclear disaster. McCarthy was spreading fears of communists and foreigners.

Corporal punishment was a school event where Coach got to beat kids, girls too, with a wooden paddle. There were no seat belts, no trauma centers and no social safety net of any kind. My grandma's house still didn't have any electricity or phone service. Domestic violence was commonplace anf if a husband beat his wife, no problem, and forget about a divorce. Eugenics were still laws and my cousin with Downs syndrome was ordered to be sterilized as a teen by the state of calif.

Yeah, it was a great time.

thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
12. The 50s had its pros and cons...
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:59 PM
May 2016

It was a good time for white middle class... decent job security, a single breadwinner could support a family.

and the MIC was content with just one war at a time.

but it really sucked if you were black.

or a "communist."

or a young male who got drafted.

and there was no internet, I'll leave that to you to put into either the pro or con category.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
14. And if you were a single woman what were your options? And if you were married
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:14 PM
May 2016

and in a bad marriage, what could you do?

Hekate

(90,627 posts)
22. If your husband died you got sympathy but your credit was cut off...
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:01 AM
May 2016

If you got divorced you and he had to air all your dirty laundry to the judge first -- and your credit got cut off.

A woman needed a man to sign off on a loan or rent an apartment.

Access to birth control was well nigh impossible for unmarried women, especially if under 21.

Help wanted ads in the newspapers were segregated by gender, and women's work paid very little indeed. If want ads were segregated otherwise I don't recall seeing it in California.

As it happens I was a child in the 1950s, so nearly all of this went right over my head -- but enough of it was still alive well into the 1970s that it affected my adult life.

But in the 1950s my mother stayed home from work while my father was the sole wage earner in a blue collar unionized job. As a white man he was able to purchase a small home for us and we lived on the verge of the broad middle class, with good public schools, and aspirations for college -- my parents were absolutely convinced that college was the key to our future.

So being a kid then was okay, even with the periodic duck and cover exercises at school.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
24. And if you were a woman in the 60's or 70's
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:13 AM
May 2016

with small children, who found yourself married to a gay man, what could you do?

No, that world isn't anything I'd want to go back to.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
21. And what Republican with actual government management exp does that leave?
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:49 AM
May 2016

That's right, Mitt Romney. Yes he lost his bid for the top job last time, but Name Recognition and the Establishment will be happy. Congress can come back to work and start looking for impeachment reasons if Trump wins, and everyone who calls themselves a Republican that doesn't want to vote Trump will be back on board. Plus Corporate Donor money for the General. If Trump really is looking for someone to run his White House FOR him ala Dick Cheney, Romney is the only one because most of the State governors won't want to and NO ONE in Congress is remotely qualified.

This is where I'm putting my money. ANYONE else is a net loss on a balance scale, and that makes it Trump's best chance. Christie goes to Justice for being a good bootlicker already, maybe Cruz gets to be a Court Nominee. Kasich to State or Defense cause he's not superficially Crazy, and that's that boys and girls, the core of the Cabinet. BillO can be PressSec lol.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
13. "and every one of them has major problems" -- that's something we can all agree with Trump on.
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:13 PM
May 2016

However, he's the biggest blowhard of them all.

no_hypocrisy

(46,067 posts)
27. Wouldn't that be unconstitutional?
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:54 AM
May 2016

Either you do the job (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_of_the_President_of_the_United_States) or you step aside and the Vice President takes over. There are no co-presidents (including Dick Cheney).

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