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Thu May 26, 2016, 07:19 AM

Why are Greatest Threads about the email report kept off the Home page?

I've noticed lately that threads like this or this somehow don't appear on the home page.

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Reply Why are Greatest Threads about the email report kept off the Home page? (Original post)
passy May 2016 OP
Itchinjim May 2016 #1
passy May 2016 #2
Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #21
passy May 2016 #41
haikugal May 2016 #51
Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #28
moonbabygo May 2016 #31
artislife May 2016 #34
passy May 2016 #42
Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #43
passy May 2016 #46
Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #48
Skittles May 2016 #50
tazkcmo May 2016 #55
FSogol May 2016 #3
passy May 2016 #5
still_one May 2016 #26
RogueTrooper May 2016 #4
passy May 2016 #6
RogueTrooper May 2016 #7
passy May 2016 #8
passy May 2016 #9
Jesus Malverde May 2016 #10
passy May 2016 #13
Logical May 2016 #54
Jesus Malverde May 2016 #56
IdaBriggs May 2016 #11
passy May 2016 #12
IdaBriggs May 2016 #14
passy May 2016 #18
IdaBriggs May 2016 #22
passy May 2016 #19
tammywammy May 2016 #24
IdaBriggs May 2016 #29
pnwmom May 2016 #15
passy May 2016 #17
Hekate May 2016 #25
pnwmom May 2016 #33
passy May 2016 #37
pnwmom May 2016 #40
passy May 2016 #44
pnwmom May 2016 #45
passy May 2016 #47
pnwmom May 2016 #49
Capt. Obvious May 2016 #16
passy May 2016 #20
TwilightZone May 2016 #23
Post removed May 2016 #27
hunter May 2016 #30
moonbabygo May 2016 #32
passy May 2016 #38
Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #52
jwirr May 2016 #35
Name removed May 2016 #36
passy May 2016 #39
MFM008 May 2016 #53

Response to passy (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:28 AM

1. Because it's a conspiracy to keep Bernie form winning the nomination!

That's why!

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Response to Itchinjim (Reply #1)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:30 AM

2. I don't think I was talking about Bernie or the nomination, but whatever ...

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Response to passy (Reply #2)

Thu May 26, 2016, 11:57 AM

21. It appears that you are talking about turning DU into a place to bash Hillary Clinton...

more publically; but please explain what you are "talking about."

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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Reply #21)

Thu May 26, 2016, 04:53 PM

41. Keeping certain stories out of the front page is not what I thought DU was about.

That's all. I would be equally puzzled if a post called "Bernie caught slaughtering unicorns" was kept off the front page.

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Response to passy (Reply #41)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:29 PM

51. DU is not what you think it is. DU is all in for what ever helps Hillary and that includes

the front page, capisce?

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Response to passy (Reply #2)

Thu May 26, 2016, 01:35 PM

28. Slamming Hillary repeatedly over a GOP invented story better sure as HELL

be about Bernie and the nomination, otherwise people here are doing it solely to harm the Democratic Party and it's likely nominee.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #28)

Thu May 26, 2016, 01:56 PM

31. GOP invented?

 

Did someone tell the FBI this? From what I hear the typically don't waste their time on invented things as there are real issues to tackle and I have yet to hear they are over staffed

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #28)

Thu May 26, 2016, 05:04 PM

42. Why involve the GOP and Bernie?

Hillary herself admitted she did something wrong, the report simply details the extent of her mistake.
That is newsworthy and factual, if you see it as an attack then go ahead.
Just like the speaking fees Hillary knew what she was doing, even if nothing nefarious happened, it gives the wrong impression. She had no practical need to set up the private server, apart from accessing her mails from her Blackberry, just like she had no need to give all those paid speeches apart from wanting to fill up her coffers.
A one point she should have considered the consequences and said no, it's not worth it, it might look bad if I decide to run for the presidency again.

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Response to passy (Reply #42)

Thu May 26, 2016, 05:08 PM

43. Email is GOP story...period. Bernie doesnt support this witch hunt nor do I. Some do though

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #43)

Thu May 26, 2016, 05:37 PM

46. Stop calling it a witch hunt, she admitted she messed up.

And she was unclear about the reasoning and the extent of her f**k up.
The lack of clarity cannot be others' fault.
If she had simply said "I'm sorry, I had assumed that I had followed proper procedure but I didn't, I am turning other my server to the State Department, which I trust will be able to determine which emails should become part of the official record, while preserving my right to privacy." There, done, she has nothing to hide.

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Response to passy (Reply #46)

Thu May 26, 2016, 05:41 PM

48. GOP witch hunt and ALL liberals know it. Liberals dont talk about this GOP story.

witch hunt
witch hunt
witch hunt

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Response to passy (Reply #46)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:19 PM

50. IT IS A WITCH HUNT

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #43)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:49 PM

55. You said "period" so I guess that does it.

Do you really think that's going to make this go away? Period my *ss.

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Response to passy (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:41 AM

3. Oh noes! DWS and Bill Clinton strike again!

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Response to FSogol (Reply #3)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:47 AM

5. My question was more of a technical question, not about some conspiracy.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #3)

Thu May 26, 2016, 01:33 PM

26. I hear there is a group who are trying to remove the DNC chair from DU. Details at 6 tonight

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Response to passy (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:46 AM

4. It would be considered primary business

and I am not sure threads in GD appear in the home page.

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Response to RogueTrooper (Reply #4)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:50 AM

6. All posts with enough recs should show up.

And they're not just GDP posts either, one is a Latest Breaking News post.

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Response to passy (Reply #6)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:52 AM

7. You might want to go to Ask The Administrors and ask them

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Response to RogueTrooper (Reply #7)

Thu May 26, 2016, 08:10 AM

8. I sent Skinner a mail asking to comment on this thread.

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Response to passy (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 08:45 AM

9. K&R

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Response to passy (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 08:47 AM

10. The owner of the website is committed to the Hillary campaign

His house, his rules. Clear enough?

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Reply #10)

Thu May 26, 2016, 10:10 AM

13. He might be but it's the first time I see the front page "Greatest Threads" box being edited.

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Reply #10)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:46 PM

54. True, he can be as selfish and biased as he wants. nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #54)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:50 PM

56. Naw he's just feeding his peeps.

Maybe he gets a vacation once in a while. Be a nice guest in his house. You can imagine the bern drives him nuts, it's embarrassing for his platform, and reveals grass roots sentiment.

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Response to passy (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 08:56 AM

11. The GDP forum is NOT on the home page because it is where we

 

rip into each other and the Admins dont want our dirty laundry on the home (front) page. News about the report in "Latest Breaking News" would be there if it received enough recommendations.

It's not a conspiracy - just some housekeeping. People are also free to "trash" the forums that infuriate them, and I think the top three are GDP, Hillary and Bernie! Lol!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #11)

Thu May 26, 2016, 10:09 AM

12. I don't think that I noticed GDP post kept off the front page before

In this case it's a GDP post, not a Bernie or Hillary group post, and a LBN post.
There's no reason why they should be kept off the front page.

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Response to passy (Reply #12)

Thu May 26, 2016, 10:15 AM

14. Skinner posted about it in the "Announcements" forum on March 16, 2016.

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10135098

"And also we are not going to feature discussion threads on the DU homepage if they are posted in the General Discussion: Primaries forum, or in either of the two primary candidate supporters' groups. We are no longer interested in featuring the most divisive content on the front page of this website.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #14)

Thu May 26, 2016, 11:53 AM

18. Still one of the ones I mentioned is from LBN not GDP

And it had the highest number of recs this morning.
Title "State Dept. watchdog: Clinton violated email rules"

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Response to passy (Reply #18)

Thu May 26, 2016, 11:59 AM

22. Holy carp! I was just about to say that it was past the 24 hour expiration

 

But the #2 thread is from "Latest Breaking" and it isn't showing on the home page either!



HILLARY CLINTON AND HER STAFF MAY HAVE COMPROMISED COUNTERTERROR OPS WITH ‘SLOPPY’ COMMUNICATIONS http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141465357

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #14)

Thu May 26, 2016, 11:56 AM

19. Actually it looks like none of the LBN posts are making it to the frontpage.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #14)

Thu May 26, 2016, 01:23 PM

24. There are multiple pages of Latest Threads

They're in order with the newest listed first. The thread you're linking to was started last night at 10:12 pm Central time. It's listed on page 7.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=latest_threads&sort1=latest&sort2=all&sort3=86400&page=7

It's not surprising that in 14 hours many other threads have been started on the site pushing it down.

It's also on the homepage: http://www.democraticunderground.com/index.php

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Response to tammywammy (Reply #24)

Thu May 26, 2016, 01:36 PM

29. LBN is no longer on the home page. nt

 

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Response to passy (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 10:17 AM

15. You left off this one:

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #15)

Thu May 26, 2016, 11:48 AM

17. Is that a joke, that post is pure bullshit and it only has 15 recs...

How anyone who has read the report can come up that interpretation is beyond me.
You must not have read it yourself or you wouldn't have made that post.

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Response to passy (Reply #17)

Thu May 26, 2016, 01:30 PM

25. Link to Rachel Maddow's interpretation, if that helps. Watch it all. I did.

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Response to passy (Reply #17)

Thu May 26, 2016, 02:38 PM

33. A law professor from the University of Baltimore wrote it. Where did you get your degree? n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #33)

Thu May 26, 2016, 04:43 PM

37. You don't need a degree to read the report, read it yourself.

From the excerpts you include in your post, it seems like he insists on comparing her actions to that of Colin Powell back in 2001 when his staff didn't even have internet access. There's a difference between using a private server and a commercial e-mail service. His argument is, well Powell did it so she could too, whereas the report is critical of both of them.
Since I don't have a law degree I'll ask you a simple questions, why was there a need to completely erase the server after they had delivered those thousands of e-mails after the FOIA request? Why would anyone destroy so much personal correspondence? Imagine if you were to write your biography how valuable that type of record might be. How about personal e-mails from friends and family, if these were letters or photographs would you simply burn them?

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Response to passy (Reply #37)

Thu May 26, 2016, 04:53 PM

40. Colin Powell NEVER used a .gov account, though he could have. And he didn't make paper copies

of all his emails, as the policy said he should do. Instead he simply deleted the emails when he left office. And when the state department asked for them, they were told they were gone.

The law about public records makes no distinction between private emails at AOL and private emails on a personal server. But yes, you're right -- the report is critical of both Powell and Clinton. But there were NO consequences, no Congressional investigations, when Powell failed to turn over ANY emails. Just when Hillary turned over 55,000 of them. This is a BLATANT double standard.

With regard to your question about Hillary, I can't speak for her. But if I thought enemies in the government wanted to go on a public fishing expedition through all my private emails, I'd want to erase them, too.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #40)

Thu May 26, 2016, 05:26 PM

44. The report is not simply about records though is it.

It's also about the security risks which were much more relevant in 2009 compared to 2001, the policies in place were also much stricter by then. All in all, the whole idea of setting up a private server in your basement showed a certain level of naiveté about how the internet functioned. You didn't have to be a computer genius in 2009 to know that foreign powers could reasonably be expected to break into a personal server using an unsecured commercial internet connection. The report even shows how Hillary was worried about opening certain suspicious looking emails. I don't think she would have been that worried about opening her State Department email, if she had chosen to use that.

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Response to passy (Reply #44)

Thu May 26, 2016, 05:31 PM

45. There is no evidence that Hillary's server was any risker -- quite the contrary, since during that

same period of time we know that hundreds of thousands of .gov emails were hacked by the Chinese.

Hillary's server, by the way, was set up with security measures. They were very conscious of security. But no system is perfect and Hillary was right to be concerned about anything that looked suspicious.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #45)

Thu May 26, 2016, 05:40 PM

47. Stop deflecting

She said she messed up.
It was a bad decision, take her word for it.
Now we know how bad a decision it was.
Then we'll find out if it was illegal too.

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Response to passy (Reply #47)

Thu May 26, 2016, 05:51 PM

49. I agree it was a bad decision politically. Other than that it was a reasonable decision.

The .gov system was very clunky and eminently hackable.

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Response to passy (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 11:26 AM

16. Because the system is rigged

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #16)

Thu May 26, 2016, 11:56 AM

20. What system?

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Response to passy (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 01:15 PM

23. Because there isn't room for all 300 of them?

Just a guess.

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Response to passy (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 01:53 PM

30. Republicans don't use email.

The pass notes to one another while sitting in bathroom stalls.

Then they flush them.

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Response to hunter (Reply #30)

Thu May 26, 2016, 01:59 PM

32. LOL nt

 

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Response to hunter (Reply #30)

Thu May 26, 2016, 04:44 PM

38. I hear that sometimes there's footplay involved

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Response to hunter (Reply #30)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:41 PM

52. But only when taking a wide stance.

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Response to passy (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 03:31 PM

35. Because they label them about the primary and move them

there. It is a way to make sure that they do not show up in any other section.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #36)

Thu May 26, 2016, 04:49 PM

39. You shouldn't quit, DU is a great platform for discussion

It was a good place to come to after the elections in 2004 and it still is in some way. Once this election is over and all the paid posters are gone it will be much more pleasant to be here.

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Response to passy (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:43 PM

53. JUNE 14

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