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Sun May 8, 2016, 02:58 PM

 

Trans folks are not deadly weapons. The comparrison is dehumanizing.

What motivates folks to make such comparisons?

And now we even have a poll about it?

WTF???

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172192619


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Reply Trans folks are not deadly weapons. The comparrison is dehumanizing. (Original post)
stone space May 2016 OP
Waldorf May 2016 #1
stone space May 2016 #2
JI7 May 2016 #3
stone space May 2016 #4
JI7 May 2016 #7
stone space May 2016 #15
friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #39
Straw Man May 2016 #42
linuxman May 2016 #5
madinmaryland May 2016 #6
friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #8
stone space May 2016 #10
Lurks Often May 2016 #11
stone space May 2016 #12
Lurks Often May 2016 #14
stone space May 2016 #16
Lurks Often May 2016 #18
stone space May 2016 #19
Lurks Often May 2016 #20
stone space May 2016 #21
Lurks Often May 2016 #22
stone space May 2016 #23
Lurks Often May 2016 #25
stone space May 2016 #27
Lurks Often May 2016 #28
stone space May 2016 #29
Lurks Often May 2016 #31
Lurks Often May 2016 #34
LanternWaste May 2016 #32
Lurks Often May 2016 #33
beevul May 2016 #36
Matrosov May 2016 #17
beevul May 2016 #9
stone space May 2016 #13
Lurks Often May 2016 #24
stone space May 2016 #26
Lurks Often May 2016 #30
beevul May 2016 #35
La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #37
friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #38
La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #40
friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #44
HereSince1628 May 2016 #41
friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #45
beevul May 2016 #43
friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #46
beevul May 2016 #47
friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #48
jmg257 May 2016 #49

Response to stone space (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 03:01 PM

1. Why resurrect a post that is over one year old? n/t

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Response to Waldorf (Reply #1)

Sun May 8, 2016, 03:02 PM

2. I fixed the link. The poll I meant to link to is from today. (nt)

 

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Response to stone space (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 03:03 PM

3. can you point out where someone does this ?

It's hard reading through the entire thing

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Response to JI7 (Reply #3)

Sun May 8, 2016, 03:05 PM

4. See the link. (I had it wrong, earlier.)

 

The same folks have been comparing Black folks and gay folks to deadly weapons for some time, now.

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Response to stone space (Reply #4)

Sun May 8, 2016, 03:15 PM

7. yeah it's a fucked up comparison

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Response to JI7 (Reply #7)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:44 AM

15. It's hard to imagine what would cause folks to think that way.

 

I was shocked the first time they compared being Black with being a deadly weapon.

Then they switched to comparing gays with deadly weapons.

And now it's Transexuals.

Who will it be, next?

I bet it'll be a long, long time before they start comparing unarmed straight white males to deadly weapons.

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Response to stone space (Reply #15)

Mon May 9, 2016, 03:54 PM

39. And what "folks" would that be, and where did they do so?

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Response to stone space (Reply #4)

Mon May 9, 2016, 06:56 PM

42. Do you honestly think that ...

... that poll in any way supports or legitimizes transphobia?

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Response to stone space (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 03:10 PM

5. How did I know this was another stone space thread without looking?

 

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Response to stone space (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 03:14 PM

6. What a maroon. I can't believe someone actually went there. Must have been a gun-nutter.

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #6)

Sun May 8, 2016, 04:30 PM

8. I didn't- I compared two moral panics to each other, *not* 'people to inanimate objects'

The moral panic about the open carry fools (and yes, in my opinion they ARE fools and I never
would do or advocate openly carrying like that) is no more based in reality than the transphobic one.

Just to make clear: Neither group is more dangerous than the population as a whole is,
and all the shouting and handwaving about them is mere political posturing for
the 'benefit' of certain very different political constituencies.

I will continue to reiterate that unless and until someone can show statistics that open carriers
are somehow more dangerous than average


Also, the OP appears to have something of a truthiness problem about the subject:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172145212#post2

These gun fettishist assholes don't give a flying fuck how cold it is in the freezer.

What if folks had found themselves locked in the freezer, and had not been able to get out?

Do the gun fetishists care about anybody other than themselves?


www.democraticunderground.com/1172145212#post28

Safety releases
have been standard on walk in freezer doors for decades.



http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/05/09/the-gun-report-may-9-2014/?_r=1

An earlier version of this post included information from Sgt. Ray Bush of the Forth Worth Police Department, who wrote in an email last week that the employees at the Jack in the Box where Open Carry Texas staged a demonstration “locked themselves inside a freezer for protection out of fear the rifle-carrying men would rob them.” However, Brian Luscomb, vice president of corporate communications for Jack in the Box, told the New York Times this evening, “Our employees told us that they did not hide in the freezer.” We have amended the post to reflect this new information.

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #8)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:20 AM

10. Your poll was dehumanizing, and rightly hidden.

 

Post the jury results if you dare.








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Response to stone space (Reply #10)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:35 AM

11. Says the poster with 6 hides

 

Maybe you don't want to be discussing hidden posts, you currently have 6 hides and are only allowed to post due to Skinner's amnesty, otherwise you would be banned from posting on DU until near the end of June.

Here is your transparency page: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=313825&sub=trans

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #11)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:39 AM

12. The OP isn't about me. But your attempt to change the subject is revealing. (nt)

 

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Response to stone space (Reply #12)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:43 AM

14. Given your repeated hides and timeouts from be allowing to post here

 

I think it is important for everyone on DU to know that anything you post should be taken with a grain of salt

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #14)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:45 AM

16. Perhaps a self-avowed Zimmerman supporter is not the one to be spreading that message?

 

I think it is important for everyone on DU to know that anything you post should be taken with a grain of salt


Just sayin'...

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Response to stone space (Reply #16)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:47 AM

18. How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?

 

Supporting due process, the right to a fair trial and the concept of reasonable doubt is not being a Zimmerman supporter.

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #18)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:55 AM

19. My position on gunstalking and murder has been stated elsewhere. (nt)

 




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Response to stone space (Reply #19)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:56 AM

20. How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?

 

It's not a hard question, why can't you answer it?

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #20)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:07 AM

21. Take your Zimmerman supporting bullshit to the gungeon.

 

How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?

It's not a hard question, why can't you answer it?


The only gungeon bullshit that belongs here in this thread is an explanation as to why unarmed Transexuals are being compared with deadly weapons.

The rest of it is off-topic.


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Response to stone space (Reply #21)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:13 AM

22. Why can't you answer simple questions?

 

How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?

It's not a hard question, why can't you answer it?

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #22)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:15 AM

23. Go away. This isn't the gungeon.

 

Why can't you answer simple questions?

How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?

It's not a hard question, why can't you answer it?


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Response to stone space (Reply #23)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:16 AM

25. It's not a hard question, why won't you answer it?

 

How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #25)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:19 AM

27. Go away. This isn't the gungeon. (nt)

 

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Response to stone space (Reply #27)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:20 AM

28. Why are you afraid to answer a simple question?

 

How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #28)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:22 AM

29. Go away, and take your Zimmerman supporting bullshit with you.

 

Why are you afraid to answer a simple question?

How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?


This isn't the gungeon.



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Response to stone space (Reply #29)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:28 AM

31. Why won't you answer a simple question?

 

How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?


And if you hate the "Gungeon" so much why are 32% of ALL your posts in that one group you hate so much?

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Response to stone space (Reply #29)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:08 AM

34. You're right, your OP doesn't deserve to be bumped back to the top

 

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #28)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:47 AM

32. I think you should continue wasting people's time. It allows you purpose.

I think you should continue wasting people's time. It allows you purpose and meaning that seems would otherwise be lacking. Good luck.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #32)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:06 AM

33. Thanks for that meaningless advice!

 

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Response to stone space (Reply #27)

Mon May 9, 2016, 01:19 PM

36. It isn't GCRA or your class room either.

 

You have no authority or credibility here.

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #8)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:47 AM

17. People who open carry are more dangerous

 

They're carrying a deadly weapon with them. That inherently makes them more dangerous. Their intent doesn't even matter, because open carrying creates a chance for them to have a negligent discharge or for someone to grab their weapon, a chance that didn't exist before.

What makes transgendered people inherently more dangerous?

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Response to stone space (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:18 PM

9. Exept nobody nobody said they were.

 

What was being compared was a couple of moral panics, not people and guns.


Brush up on your reading comprehension.

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Response to beevul (Reply #9)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:40 AM

13. Transexuals are not deadly weapons, so there is nothing to compare.

 

The poll was rightly hidden.

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Response to stone space (Reply #13)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:15 AM

24. Just like your posts are rightly hidden?

 

Maybe you don't want to be discussing hidden posts, you currently have 6 hides and are only allowed to post due to Skinner's amnesty, otherwise you would be banned from posting on DU until near the end of June.

Here is your transparency page: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=313825&sub=trans

How many times have you been banned from posting because you accumulated 5 or more hides?

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #24)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:19 AM

26. Go away. This isn't the gungeon. (nt)

 

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Response to stone space (Reply #26)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:27 AM

30. Why is the "Gungeon" your favorite group?

 

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Response to stone space (Reply #13)

Mon May 9, 2016, 01:17 PM

35. Nobody said they were...

 

Nobody said they were, and they were not being compared with anything.

As you and I and everyone else that takes the time to read knows.

The poll was a terrible hide.

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Response to stone space (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 01:22 PM

37. sometimes people deserve public shaming. this is one of those moments

 

thanks for bringing this to light

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #37)

Mon May 9, 2016, 03:52 PM

38. No shame accrues, as the doctrinaire and mendacious have no moral authority

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #38)

Mon May 9, 2016, 04:58 PM

40. Sometimes people resist learning any lessons. Sucks to be them

 

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #40)

Tue May 10, 2016, 12:06 PM

44. And others are easily led to believe they see what someone else wants them to see, but...

what they see isn't actually there...

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Response to stone space (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 06:29 PM

41. Dehumanizing. Yes, Such accusations have been noticed by the Mental Health Community

Not that it has changed politicians or political bulletin boards.

But the AP did change its rules on the misuse and abuse of adjectives suggesting or/associating with mental illness with violence and crime.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #41)

Tue May 10, 2016, 12:09 PM

45. It *would* have been dehumanizing, if such a suggestion had actually been made.

It was not.

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Response to stone space (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:56 PM

43. Lets examine your claim, OP, for truthiness.

 

Your statement:

Trans folks are not deadly weapons. The comparrison is dehumanizing.

What motivates folks to make such comparisons?


Your statement contains an implicit claim, that someone actually IS comparing Trans folks to deadly weapons.

In support of this claim, you link to this thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172192619 which reads:

Thread title: "Poll in regard to the moral panic over open carry of firearms"

First line in the post:"In your opinion, how does it compare to the current right-wing transphobic moral panic?"

Nowhere are trans folks being compared to weapons.

So, in an effort to game a jury (which IMO crosses the line into gaming the jury system, and Skinner has been very clear how he feels about gaming the system), you implicitly accuse another poster of doing something which they clearly, unambiguously and obviously did not do.

But that wasn't enough for you was it. You got away with it once, and you just couldn't resist doubling down on it and posting it to GD. I appreciate that. It gives me an opportunity to dissect and expose the dishonest nastiness of your claim for what it is, out in the open for all to see.

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Response to beevul (Reply #43)

Tue May 10, 2016, 12:11 PM

46. Thank you for the support, but it appears the OP has abandoned his thread

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #46)

Tue May 10, 2016, 12:38 PM

47. You're welcome.

 

Thank you for the support...


You're welcome.

...but it appears the OP has abandoned his thread


Thats ok. Others can make note of his behavior in his absence, and draw their own conclusions.

Frankly I'm surprised he didn't selectively self delete before the truth was made known.

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Response to beevul (Reply #47)

Tue May 10, 2016, 12:49 PM

48. It's the same mindset that drives the "bathroom safety volunteers"

The moral panic-mongers like Pat McCrory and Michael Bloomberg gin up an issue
for political gain, and the credulous swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

Nothing new under the sun:

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Response to stone space (Original post)

Tue May 10, 2016, 03:17 PM

49. Strange - didn't you start a thread comparing Gay folks and black folks to AR-15s??

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