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Wed May 4, 2016, 10:24 PM

More Red States Embrace Obamacare, As Long As You Don’t Call It That

More Red States Embrace Obamacare, As Long As You Don’t Call It That

by Jeffrey Young at the Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republican-states-embrace-obamacare_us_57291c97e4b0bc9cb04504bb?utm_hp_ref=politics

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WASHINGTON — Presidential candidates and other national politicians throw around a lot of rhetoric about health care reform, but the real action is happening in conservative state legislatures across the country.

Red state governors and lawmakers are deciding what health care for low-income people and those with disabilities delivered through Medicaid, the joint federal-state health benefit program, will look like in the post-Obamacare era.

“This, at this point, is largely a fight within the Republican Party,” said Joan Alker, executive director for the Center for Children and Families at Georgetown University, who is an expert on Medicaid issues.

In some cases, Republicans have concocted pretty convoluted ways to do Obamacare without saying they’re doing Obamacare, to get other Republicans to go along.



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Reply More Red States Embrace Obamacare, As Long As You Don’t Call It That (Original post)
applegrove May 2016 OP
raging moderate May 2016 #1
applegrove May 2016 #2
louis-t May 2016 #3
nxylas May 2016 #12
IronLionZion May 2016 #4
demosincebirth May 2016 #5
liberalnarb May 2016 #17
LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #19
underpants May 2016 #6
Iggo May 2016 #7
Nitram May 2016 #8
Hortensis May 2016 #9
maddiemom May 2016 #10
Jeb Bartlet May 2016 #11
zentrum May 2016 #13
drm604 May 2016 #14
rocktivity May 2016 #15
Zambero May 2016 #16
liberalnarb May 2016 #18
Blue_Tires May 2016 #20

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:28 PM

1. Typical.

Eyes shut tight, backing into the future.

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Response to raging moderate (Reply #1)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:30 PM

2. Maybe that is a sign the GOP have given marching orders to the states to implement...lest health

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care, and INSURANCE FOR PREEXISTING CONDITIONS, become a wedge issue for democrats this fall.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu May 5, 2016, 02:43 PM

3. The commercials call it "Christian Health Care"

I've seen them.

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Response to louis-t (Reply #3)

Sat May 7, 2016, 06:46 AM

12. Well played

It may stick in the craw of blue state dems, but if you want to sell it in the South, then that's the way to do it.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu May 5, 2016, 06:56 PM

4. Millions in red states would have Medicaid years ago

if we had just one more liberal on the supreme court to avoid striking down the Medicaid expansion.

Life sucks in red states. I grew up in a conservative rural area and would not want to move back.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu May 5, 2016, 10:56 PM

5. Obamacare is the name the Republicans gave the ACA.

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Response to demosincebirth (Reply #5)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:32 AM

17. Thank you.

Not sure why Democrats (including the President) adopted the term, tho.

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Response to liberalnarb (Reply #17)

Mon May 9, 2016, 01:26 PM

19. I was confused by that as well

Its funny to watch these Republicans back away from their own brand name they concocted. At the time they thought, obviously, that it would tar the whole program as one shoved down the throats of Americans by one individual, a Black individual who usurped the Presidency, a Kenyan Muslim Socialist anti-Hetro, Terrorist loving, weak but at the same time dangeriously threatening...etc....

And it worked for awhile. But now as it has been proven to be an improvement and successful, (as much as a privately run insurance plan can be) they are scrambling to distance themselves of that moniker they invented.


But why oh why did even Obama himself use that term? Over and over. I'm sure he did it to rub it in their faces. But why not always use the term the Affordable Care Act when speaking of it? It would have put the emphasis on "affordable" which is the whole point of the policy in the first place. But by he and other Democrats using it as well, it further cemented the Republicans charge of arrogance and a one man show.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri May 6, 2016, 07:01 AM

6. Reminds me of the law prohibiting signs announcing ARRA projects in Virginia

Finds were set aside in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 to purchase roadside signs announcing that the project you were driving by was funded by the ARRA. This was to serve like signs in the Depression letting people know that SOMETHING was being done and also to inject money into the sign making industry and all their suppliers. The Virginia legislature, Republican majority, specifically prohibited this part of the Act. This served to cloud exactly what was being done and to serve the "Where'd all the money go?" talking point.

We drove to a wedding in Ohio in 2010 and we passed several road projects that had such signs once we were in WV and Ohio.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri May 6, 2016, 08:41 AM

7. They're the ones who insisted on calling it that while they were trying to defeat it.

Hilarious.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri May 6, 2016, 08:45 AM

8. Now that's some irony. The GOP named the ACA Obamacare.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri May 6, 2016, 08:57 AM

9. Fantastic article, thanks. So funny!

Yes, might as well laugh. No matter how disgusting, it's to the good in the end.

I particularly enjoyed Arkansas's tricksterism to cover the obstructionist butts for reelection.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri May 6, 2016, 04:37 PM

10. Only the Repuglicans started calling it "Obamacare."

I've actually read some of them claim that "Obama was conceited in naming it after himself." Remember "Hillarycare?" Chose a political figure who's divisive among the dolts: a surefire way to turn them against what the rest of the civilized world embraces as a benefit to them..."Obamacare" being a poor copy of the healthcare benefits known in the other "first world" nations.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat May 7, 2016, 03:17 AM

11. That's the way to do it,

just change the label. Cons ever do any actual fact checking.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat May 7, 2016, 11:54 AM

13. Just call it

…..Romney Care and be done with it. That's what it is.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 11:33 AM

14. That's not its name anyway.

The Republicans invented that name to make it seem undesirable to Obama haters. Now they're having to back away from it.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 01:33 PM

15. But THEY'RE the ones who called it that, LOL

It was supposed to be a four-letter word!


rocktivity

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 08:36 PM

16. That's funny...

Obamacare was originally coined as a pejorative term. Now it need to be called something else, lest the "Obama" reference comes across as being a positive association?

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:34 AM

18. Great, lets call single-payer "The Jesus System"

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 02:44 PM

20. k+r

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