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trof

(54,256 posts)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:31 PM Apr 2016

OK, I buzzed a Russian Navy "trawler", several times, back in the late 60s. Big deal.

I was a pilot in the Alabama Air National Guard.
We were flying the RF-84/F, a reconnaissance/fighter aircraft.

(The 'bomb-like' things under the belly are 450 gallon external fuel tanks. There were two.)

My squadron, out of Birmingham, Alabama, was part of a joint all-military branches combat exercise (war game) namd "Clove Hitch" in the late 60s staged out of Ramey AFB in Puerto Rico.

My squadron mate and I were scheduled for the 'dawn patrol' (06:00 departure) to take photos of some bridge or something, but our briefing officer told us that mission was scrubbed. Instead we were to 'harass' a Russian Navy 'trawler' (spy ship) just off the coast. We all knew they were monitoring our activities, radio transmissions, etc. It was the height of the cold war.

Woo Hoo! A license to buzz!


We were given the latest position of the trawler.
Dan and I flipped a coin and he flew lead, I flew wing.
We took off and climbed to 10,000' and hit the last known position of the Russkies.
Dan soon sighted them.

"I'll make the first pass across their deck. Count to 5 and come on in."
I was on Dan's right wing and he peeled left.
I counted to 5 and followed.
I saw the ship.
I saw Dan blast over the bow deck and pull up.
Just as I was approaching for my run, Dan said "PULL UP! WRONG SHIP!"
I pulled up and rolled inverted and looked down as I passed over and sure enough, it was a cruise ship.
Woops.


A few minutes later Dan found the Russian ship and we pressed on.
He made the first pass at deck level.
I made my first pass about 10' above the midships deck using color motion picture film in my forward film bay.
It was the first and only time I had ever been loaded with either color or motion picture fan.***

Dan's first pass still photos showed many sailors looking up.
My first movie film showed guys diving down and closing hatches.
We beat the ship up, low pass after low pass, for about an hour and then returned to Ramey.

At our farewell banquet at the Ramey Officers Club I was awarded the "Order of the Russian Trawler".
I have the certificate to prove it.


***I asked for a copy of the film. I was told:
1. It was not available.
2. Your security clearance doesn't go that high.
3. Finally "What film?"
OK, I think I made a movie for the CIA.




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OK, I buzzed a Russian Navy "trawler", several times, back in the late 60s. Big deal. (Original Post) trof Apr 2016 OP
Cool story EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #1
Thanks. Cool time. trof Apr 2016 #3
My irish father in law EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #7
LoL in 78 or 79 my destroyer swapped paint.. denbot Apr 2016 #2
Yeah, we seemed to always be taking it to the edge. trof Apr 2016 #4
cruise ship? irisblue Apr 2016 #5
The cruise line filed a flight violation against us with the FAA. trof Apr 2016 #9
No,just the poop deck. oneshooter Apr 2016 #22
Great story but my security clearance is not high enough to read it. chknltl Apr 2016 #6
T-33 trof Apr 2016 #8
I remember those trawlers. Turbineguy Apr 2016 #10
Did the trawlers look like this? HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #11
This is one jmowreader Apr 2016 #20
That is a LOT of radar domes for a "trawler". oneshooter Apr 2016 #23
That is a LOT of radar domes for a "trawler". oneshooter Apr 2016 #24
One of my wiretapping instructors almost started WWIII over an AGI jmowreader Apr 2016 #27
Here's one riding with USS Coral Sea sofa king Apr 2016 #35
A old Russian research vessel named Kartesh had a very similary shaped hull HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #36
Sounds fun! cheapdate Apr 2016 #12
Most fun I'ver had with my pants on. trof Apr 2016 #31
Just some harmless pissing contest? packman Apr 2016 #13
One of my favorite movies of all time! Javaman Apr 2016 #32
I was on the Seattle out of Norfolk when a soviet sub surfaced off our jtuck004 Apr 2016 #14
I got buzzed in a russian bar one time elmac Apr 2016 #15
Hey Trof! KelleyKramer Apr 2016 #16
Still here, thanks. trof Apr 2016 #30
Didn't run into some character named GW Bush did you? 4bucksagallon Apr 2016 #17
Nope. He just walked away from it. trof Apr 2016 #29
Other places to get buzzed Ned Flanders Apr 2016 #18
Good story JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #19
Cool story bro. moondust Apr 2016 #21
Thanks for the story! One question.... Jim Lane Apr 2016 #25
Yes, the cruise line filled a complaint. trof Apr 2016 #28
There should have been at least one consequence. Jim Lane Apr 2016 #33
security clearance... Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2016 #26
Fascinating... Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #34

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
7. My irish father in law
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:57 PM
Apr 2016

Trained pilots for years and I've heard MANY a hilarious story about buzzing control towers, almost dying, etc.

Flying in such an exposed cockpit must be an amazing feeling.

denbot

(9,897 posts)
2. LoL in 78 or 79 my destroyer swapped paint..
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:47 PM
Apr 2016

With a Soviet Kashin Class Destroyer just outside of Mombasa Keyna. That kind of shit was common back then.

trof

(54,256 posts)
9. The cruise line filed a flight violation against us with the FAA.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:07 PM
Apr 2016

And we were certainly in violation of civilian flight rules.
But this was simulated combat conditions, so we got a pass.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
6. Great story but my security clearance is not high enough to read it.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:56 PM
Apr 2016

You got to drive a way cool jet! That was every kid's dream back in the early 60's...(well mine at any rate). That photo sorta reminds me of the jet fighters called 'Shooting Stars' but I think their wings were not so swept back and their wing tanks were further out.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
11. Did the trawlers look like this?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 08:28 PM
Apr 2016


I rode on this ship while at the WS Biological Station, always wondered if it was built around a trawler design

jmowreader

(50,520 posts)
27. One of my wiretapping instructors almost started WWIII over an AGI
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:27 PM
Apr 2016

AGI means "Auxiliary General Intelligence." It's the official name of the kind of ship you see here...which were originally designed as fishing trawlers and were later converted to spy ships.

I better not tell too many Mike Wimer stories or you'll think I'm making shit up...

The incident in question happened when his unit needed to move a truck with a TTR-1A wiretap in it - which looks like...



from the east end of the Panama Canal to the west end. His commander assigned Mike and another guy to do it. They put the vehicle on a barge, they put a case of beer on the barge, and they started heading through the Canal.

Several hours later, they were halfway through the Canal and two-thirds of the way through the case when they met a Soviet AGI going the other direction. Being Americans who were both patriotic and extremely fucked-up (in more ways than one), they flipped off the AGI. Turns out this particular ship was equipped with four five-inch deck guns and a crew with absolutely no sense of humor, as evidenced by them training all four guns on Mike.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
36. A old Russian research vessel named Kartesh had a very similary shaped hull
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:03 PM
Apr 2016

I think the Kartesh was laid down in the early 70's. The Kartesh had a small forecastle structure and an open walk along the main deck going aft. Can't tell if that 'trawler' has such a structure forward or not.


Javaman

(62,493 posts)
32. One of my favorite movies of all time!
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:27 AM
Apr 2016

Widmark: if they fire one, I'll fire one!

MacArthur: fire one!

EEK!

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
14. I was on the Seattle out of Norfolk when a soviet sub surfaced off our
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:06 PM
Apr 2016

starboard side and rode with us for a while through the pacific. May have been off Cuba or heading for the Med, i don't remember. '72, maybe?

Second class told me to go below, so, being an okie kid who had never seen anything that could vaporize us all in no time at all, I went below and came up the port side and resumed my perusal.

He caught me again, so I never got my picture...

KelleyKramer

(8,888 posts)
16. Hey Trof!
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:20 PM
Apr 2016

Man, it's been a long time, good to see you are still around and kicking!

Ten feet over sounds awful damn close, I bet anyone on deck had their ears ringing for a while


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4bucksagallon

(975 posts)
17. Didn't run into some character named GW Bush did you?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

Allegedly he was in Alabama, I think, hiding out while going AWOL.You most likely would not remember him as he was and is a dimwit.

trof

(54,256 posts)
29. Nope. He just walked away from it.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:18 AM
Apr 2016

I would have been jailed or sent to Viet Nam as an army private.

 

Ned Flanders

(233 posts)
18. Other places to get buzzed
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

Cool story, thanks.

I spend a fair amount of time in the deserts of California and Nevada, frequently within Military Operating Areas (MOA's).

Pretty much every single visit to an MOA results in me being buzzed by some kind of military aircraft. If you've never been buzzed, allow me to tell you, it is a pretty interesting experience.

There you are, slowly crawling up a rocky 4x4 trail, haven't seen anyone else in a day. When all of a sudden you hear or perhaps feel a low vibration. I imagine it's like feeling the P-wave in an earthquake: really sudden and subtle; most people don't notice it. But right about the time you're thinking WTF, a jet screams by 100' overhead. That's really fricken close. The sound is amazing. It vibrates your entire body. And if the pilot gets really close and your windows are open, you can smell the jet fuel.

And the before you can reach for your camera, the plane's gone, over the next ridge and out of sight. You know they've lined their gun sights up on you and practiced strafing you, and you would be dead had you been a bad guy. I think I've helped quite a few pilots practice, haha.

Check out the Goleta Air and Space Museum for some great pictures of military craft "in the wild."
http://www.air-and-space.com/

People make a hobby out of this. I heard a story once about some guy who goes out there with a mockup SAM towed behind his pickup and a surplus police radar, which he uses to point at aircraft and attract their attention. Possible? IDK.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
25. Thanks for the story! One question....
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:27 PM
Apr 2016

Were there any consequences to Dan's initial mistake? Did the cruise ship company complain, or at least inquire WTF was going on?

I'll bet a lot of the passengers thought it was an entertaining change of pace, but some were really weirded out.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
33. There should have been at least one consequence.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:44 AM
Apr 2016

Along with your "Order of the Russian Trawler" certificate, Dan should have gotten one for "Order of the Civilian Cruise Ship".

Beyond that, I'm not surprised that nothing came of the complaint. Not much can be done except to tell the pilots to be more careful in the future.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
26. security clearance...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 10:42 PM
Apr 2016

They still use that line, I know a retired Navy test pilot and he would get his own weapons qualification work classified on him to the point it was difficult to do his job. This was stuff like "performed _____ maneuver, ordnance didn't fall off", "ordnance did not deploy while inverted, it's not supposed to" it drove him nuts, like this damn thing has a Wikipedia entry and was on public display at airshows.

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