Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - it's fun listening to JoeScum and the ReTHUG hacks discuss the 'rigged system'

[malaise]

after they let 'the Supremes' steal an entire Presidential election for George Bush.

Fuck the 'collective pack' starting with Joe Scum and Nicole Wallace.

[BeyondGeography]

1. From the party that hasn't met a voter suppression tactic it didn't like

Fuggem.

[malaise]

4. Isn't that the truth

The scumbag in Wisconsin boasted about it

[MillennialDem]

9. They just did

[kentuck]

2. They demonstrated that they were better than the Democrats at "rigging"...

They could get the Supreme Court on their side, if needed.

[bkkyosemite]

3. Make fun of them all you want. For whatever reason Joe is talking about this...he is telling the

TRUTH! The system is rigged!

[malaise]

5. Who is pushing voter ID laws when voter fraud is virtually non-existent?

ReTHUGs

[Fast Walker 52]

6. seriously-- fuck those guys

they are the most disgusting kind of scum.... the sooner they are removed from our public discourse, the better.

[bkkyosemite]

7. Disenfranchisement is very well and active .......within the establishment of the dem party.

Voter ID laws has nothing to do with this. This is the Dem party's way of keeping control to a few royals within the party to be the leaders. No grassroots so the supers...exist per DWS!

[LonePirate]

16. Except the supers are not going to change the outcome of the race.

The majority winner of pledged delegates will win the nomination. The supers are not and will not change the will of the voters.

Yes, the supers need to be removed entirely from the process; but they are not disenfranchising anyone.

[1StrongBlackMan]

21. You missed the poster's point ...

the system is rigged = the candidate I support is losing.

[gordianot]

8. Could it be the system is rigged against their party this time?

They are stuck with the two of the biggest freaks that ever wore pants. All of those poor Democratic politicians seem willing to slide right with a little cash they are ripe for the gravy train. There ain't gonna be no revolting Revolution.

[bkkyosemite]

10. Bernie Sanders is not a freak.

[gordianot]

12. I was referring to Trump and Cruz as the freaks.

I like Sanders but even when he wins he seems to loose. I am wondering if the "fix" is in and it will not be a Republican. The Wall Street candidate seems to win when she looses. The system is rigged.

[Plucketeer]

18. Let's be fair....

They don't call them "PANTS suits" because there's a skirt.

[Fumesucker]

11. It takes a thief

Who would better know a rigged system when they see it than Republicans?

[Botany]

13. Joe S worked to steal Florida from Al Gore in 2000

Fuck him

[malaise]

14. Ted Cruz as well

and wasn't John Roberts there?

[Botany]

15. And so was Roger Stone (Brooks Brothers riot) and James A Bakker was ....

.... flying around in a private jet provided by Enron to stop the recount too.

Florida 2000 was a coup and our media didn't say shit.

No bush v Gore = no 9-11 = no war in Iraq = no ISIS

[liberalnarb]

23. Imagine how different the world today would be...

[Botany]

24. short list

no war in Iraq
no 9-11
no war in Afghanistan
no ISIS
no BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico (thanx Dick Cheney's energy task force)
no coal mine disaster in W.V. ... w put a coal boss in charge of mine safety
no dick cheney getting drunk and shooting a man in the face and walking away from it
no Ohio 2004
no dept. of homeland security
no torture
no wire taps
no kill of wild run pacific salmon
no piss poor response to Hurricane Katrini
$ spent on Flood control in New Orleans instead of the Iraq war
no crashing the world's economy

[malaise]

28. +1,000

They must pay

[Ilsa]

17. Scum was arguing there is no point in Democrats going to vote.

I don't like hearing that crap, even if the delegate system is rigged. Democrats need to get out and vote, all the way down-ticket and in off-year elections, too. Joe was just trying to convince Dems to suppress their own votes.

[1StrongBlackMan]

22. Yep ... And there are plenty here on DU attempting the same thing ...

only they dress it up in the clothing of a heroic, noble act of "principled" resistance.

[Hortensis]

30. Yup. This need to take down the Democratic Party

out some perverse notion of moral superiority is something that really needs to remain their own problem.

On similarities between far left and far right: First, they share the same high degree of moral outrage and anger. This strong moral outrage makes them into absolutists. They become True Believers in their cause, with no doubts whatsoever. They see everyone else as sell-outs and trimmers. This includes many people who share their sympathies, but not their fanaticism.

[1StrongBlackMan]

31. I don't know if you saw this OP ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118748295

[Hortensis]

33. I hadn't, thank you. Good article.

(And striking photographs.) I saw, I believe, Bravenak's post on the grim history of black pragmatism. I've also read poignant posts mentioning feeling depressed that Obama's presidency is coming to an end. Rev up the engine on that old pragmatism.

But while white southern Evangelicals have relentlessly pushed their party rightward, by supporting the tea party and other conservative activist movements, African-Americans have played nearly the opposite role in the Democratic Party, helping its mainstream wing to crush its ideologically purist insurgency.

This division between purist and pragmatist goes way beyond, or perhaps before, political points of view and interest groups. The moment I learned that political orientations have been proven to be genetically linked (and only then environmentally acted upon), so much fell into place. Epiphany.

And it clarified the great ignorance and confusion "out there" among so-called experts who, for instance, so typically include under the blanket term "liberal" groups of people on the left who are actually so different that their thoughts are usually on nonintersecting lines. Ah, they don't know what they are talking about!

But before then I was always pragmatist. People who don't agree with me aren't going away, and I don't and never will get all that I want. And sure as heck other "minorities" aren't. This article is rather sad, but written another way it could be a proud expression of maturity of understanding and wisdom. Harder earned by some than others, of course.

[malaise]

29. That's the official party meme for this week

Don't vote Dems

If I had a vote I wouldn't pay attention to a nasty, venal ReTHUG scumbag who had a dead lady in his office.

[Surya Gayatri]

19. I was laughing my tush off at his hypocritical bombast.

His overly-loud rant was dripping with insincerity.

[Plucketeer]

20. LOL..... Mourning JOKE

My morning dump is more meaningful and smells just as bad.

[Akamai]

25. Morbid curiousity makes me watch Morning Joe at times when I'm getting dressed.

Joe's very, very, very loud obnoxious rant was very grating.

However, he did make a point about how the super-delegates are giving the nod to Hillary from the states the Bernie won on the ground and called this unfair. I think in that accusation, I agree with him.

He also (ridiculously) said that if we Dems run our party this way, we shouldn't be concerned about voter suppression.

But I wonder how much of a suppressing effect the role of super-delegates will have on the general election. If Hillary or Bernie win the individual states but lose the pledged- and super-delegates, will that dishearten voters for the general election (e.g., my vote doesn't count)?

We are still early in this whole process, though. But it's past time to abandon any arrogance we may have.

Go Bernie!

[1StrongBlackMan]

32. Just curious ...

However, he did make a point about how the super-delegates are giving the nod to Hillary from the states the Bernie won on the ground and called this unfair. I think in that accusation, I agree with him.

do you have similar concerns about Florida and Nevada ... both of whom have SD that announced they will go against their states' outcomes?

[Akamai]

40. I think generally the SDs should go with the popular vote unless

there are really salient reasons not to do so.

But I do think that heavy-handed bragging about the Super Delegates may well backfire.

What do you think?

[1StrongBlackMan]

41. Who is bragging about SDs?

[revbones]

26. So if someone lies before and tells the truth now, they're still scum right?

So what does that mean about Hillary and her lies about being under sniper fire?

[raindaddy]

27. Did Hillary release the transcripts?

If not she still isn't telling the truth.. And the truth about the super delegates is they were the establishment's reaction to McGovern and Carter.. Ironically two of the Dem party's more honest politicians...

[karadax]

34. This whole thing makes me laugh. Back in '12 the Ron Paul people did the exact same thing

with the delegate game. It completely caught the Republican establishment off guard. The GOP did all kinds of shady stuff including last minute rules changes to guarantee the illusion of a united party under Romney. Now the irony is that Cruz is doing the exact same thing as the RP people and the establishment is perfectly okay with it.

How many wheels does this Republican wagon have ? They keep losing wheels and I keep laughing.

[malaise]

35. Excellent point

[mcar]

36. K&R

[tabasco]

37. If you watch that garbage, you are being indoctrinated

whether you know it or not.

[HOPNOSH]

39. Divorced Comcast in 2015. NO TV.

Enjoying more books, spending time together as a family. Shut the shit off.

[Blue Owl]

38. Scumbarrow's a bit late to the party

n/t