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Bruce Springsteen cancels upcoming performance in North Carolina due to new 'anti-LGBT' law. (Original Post) RockaFowler Apr 2016 OP
Awesome! Hoyt Apr 2016 #1
His last shows and they're going to miss it Politicalboi Apr 2016 #2
He's hanging it up? awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #24
Go see him. His shows are amazing. yardwork Apr 2016 #25
I will check into awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #26
I don't think so TimeToGo Apr 2016 #38
Koch $$$$ poured in. Duval Apr 2016 #57
thanking Mr. Springsteen Skittles Apr 2016 #3
Well, "I, I, I ain't gonna play Sun City ..." HuckleB Apr 2016 #4
A great video I remember from back then! FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #7
And Little Steven was the driving force for that, to boot. HuckleB Apr 2016 #20
It was amazing -at the time- to see all the artists! Ringo and his son! It came out around the FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #35
Great Video Kokonoe Apr 2016 #22
I know. I luckily bought a copy of the video at the time. It's still clear. Such a great FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #36
That's not necessarily youtube's fault. progressoid Apr 2016 #54
Thank You! You Tube. Kokonoe Apr 2016 #79
Brrrrruuuuuuuuuuuce! Little_Wing Apr 2016 #5
Never gone to one of his concerts leftcoastmountains Apr 2016 #6
He puts on a great show. Almost 3 hours and never boring. U4ikLefty Apr 2016 #11
Good for The Boss. mnhtnbb Apr 2016 #8
Same here. cwydro Apr 2016 #18
It might. I'm a gay Carolinian, and I think the blowback is getting fierce. yardwork Apr 2016 #28
I hope it blows up in his bigoted face. cwydro Apr 2016 #32
Are you serious? He's staying home sick? :D :D :D What a loser freak!!! C Moon Apr 2016 #50
Yes, interesting that he's decided to recuperate for weeks at home. Duval Apr 2016 #59
Actually, it is...because some of them have concert tickets. mnhtnbb Apr 2016 #31
Two more in this oasis of blue agree. nt Duval Apr 2016 #58
I live in North Carolina and have/had a pit ticket. I am angry, but not at Bruce. The fault Hissyspit Apr 2016 #9
Pit tix to Bruce? That's a tough pill to swallow...great attitude. U4ikLefty Apr 2016 #12
I am really sorry about this. Too bad you have to pay for the bigotry of others. PatV Apr 2016 #13
Oh, the right-wingers in the N.C. legislature and our governor Hissyspit Apr 2016 #41
Thank you! Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #42
Ouch. I wonder if fans contact Springsteen's web page, what could be done... HuckleB Apr 2016 #19
I am sorry for you.. Hope something works out. lostnfound Apr 2016 #27
I'm sorry, Hissyspit. That would have been a great experience. yardwork Apr 2016 #29
Big KNR! joeybee12 Apr 2016 #10
I just love Bruce jonks2746 Apr 2016 #14
you can't start a fire without a spark Botany Apr 2016 #15
This is a sad vestige of homophobia, IMO. Utopian Leftist Apr 2016 #33
K&R Solly Mack Apr 2016 #16
BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCE! n/t RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #17
After they had to cancel a show in Chicago, they released a full concert on their site for free. eggplant Apr 2016 #21
Excellent. SoapBox Apr 2016 #23
That's NJ values mainstreetonce Apr 2016 #30
I won't fault him for taking a stand FreedomRain Apr 2016 #34
Not really fair to the fans who bought tickets oberliner Apr 2016 #37
maybe they will get off there lazy asses SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #39
What a ridiculous generalization. cwydro Apr 2016 #43
I took it to mean those that aren't actively involved in trying to get crazy people in the south mdbl Apr 2016 #44
The reason they are running Government in NC and many other places is Koch money Ford_Prefect Apr 2016 #45
+1 nt Duval Apr 2016 #60
Many Many Thanks SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #62
Oh, and it's "their" not "there." SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #61
Chris Christie is a huge Boss fan trumad Apr 2016 #63
Not Bruce's fault. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2016 #51
It is actually entirely Bruce's fault oberliner Apr 2016 #52
Nope. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2016 #53
LOL trumad Apr 2016 #64
Of course it is oberliner Apr 2016 #67
There are plenty of reasons, this is the one he chose. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2016 #70
That is exactly my point - this was his choice oberliner Apr 2016 #71
So when Black folks stopped taking the bus... trumad Apr 2016 #65
+1 ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2016 #66
You are comparing the canceling of a rock concert to the Montgomery Bus Boycott? oberliner Apr 2016 #68
You're right, one is completely inconsequential in the long run.... ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2016 #69
Agreed oberliner Apr 2016 #74
Did you really just type that? trumad Apr 2016 #72
I'm sorry I must be misunderstanding something oberliner Apr 2016 #73
It's absolutely similar in what it is trying to accomplish. trumad Apr 2016 #75
That makes sense oberliner Apr 2016 #77
Cool trumad Apr 2016 #78
Then they should thank Springsteen for the impetus to get up and do something DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #80
Another Boss classic central scrutinizer Apr 2016 #40
Wherever there's someboday fightin' for a place to stand..... wiggs Apr 2016 #46
Bet he'll add Ghost of Tom Joad to US tour setlist....appropriate for times. nt wiggs Apr 2016 #47
i certatinly think this is better wilt the stilt Apr 2016 #48
That is still perplexing to this day. progressoid Apr 2016 #55
Public Venues have Public Toilets: Please contact Gov. McCrory before you potty in public. TalkingDog Apr 2016 #49
K&R Duval Apr 2016 #56
Yep, can't imagine why anyone would want to go to a hateful bigoted place like N.C. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2016 #76
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
2. His last shows and they're going to miss it
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:37 PM
Apr 2016

Oh well, they voted those assholes in. I know not everyone did, and probably 25% of Bruce's fans probably did. I hope this wakes them the fuck up.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
57. Koch $$$$ poured in.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:32 PM
Apr 2016

We sure as hell didn't vote for McCrory. We're Democrats, but could not withstand the onslaught of $$$$$ for the Republicans. I do believe we'll vote a Democrat in the Governor's seat in 2016 because of this Administration's disastrous policies.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,013 posts)
35. It was amazing -at the time- to see all the artists! Ringo and his son! It came out around the
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 07:55 PM
Apr 2016

same time as "We Are The World", and not long after "Do They Know It's Christmas"

FailureToCommunicate

(14,013 posts)
36. I know. I luckily bought a copy of the video at the time. It's still clear. Such a great
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 07:56 PM
Apr 2016

gathering of talent!

Kokonoe

(2,485 posts)
79. Thank You! You Tube.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:27 PM
Apr 2016

But it is still crap resolution.

I have taken the position we do not deserve anything that might result in less income for the top 12%.

U4ikLefty

(4,012 posts)
11. He puts on a great show. Almost 3 hours and never boring.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:42 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:18 PM - Edit history (1)

I saw him in 85 for the Born in the USA tour with a pretty skeptical attitude. I left a fan. My buddy saw him a few weeks ago for the first time and finally understood why I praised his live act so much.

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
8. Good for The Boss.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:33 PM
Apr 2016

I wish he'd make a donation to Roy Cooper's campaign.

I can hardly wait to vote out McCrory in November. Since I live in Chapel Hill--that oasis of blue--my state Rep and Senator are Dems who did
not support this hateful legislation.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. Same here.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:17 PM
Apr 2016

I'm a gay Carolinian, and I sure as hell didn't vote McCrory in.

Sadly, the cancellation of the concert won't affect the bigots who did vote him in.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
28. It might. I'm a gay Carolinian, and I think the blowback is getting fierce.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:33 PM
Apr 2016

I read today that another company cancelled plans to open a site in North Carolina. This one was going to be in Asheville, with 500 jobs. They were in the final stages of deciding and announced today that NC is no longer an option for them due to HB2.

And our gubnor is staying home "sick" this weekend - cancelled his public events. I'd say the shit's hitting the fan.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
32. I hope it blows up in his bigoted face.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 07:21 PM
Apr 2016

PayPal cancelled its Charlotte expansion, but I hadn't heard about the one in Asheville.

Wasn't it enough that we had to suffer through Jesse Helms?

Now we got this moron.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
59. Yes, interesting that he's decided to recuperate for weeks at home.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:38 PM
Apr 2016

I hope the shit is hitting the fan!!

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
31. Actually, it is...because some of them have concert tickets.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 07:18 PM
Apr 2016

I'm 'friends' on fb with a woman who is a sister of a friend of mine who lives in NJ.
They are both Republicans... and the one who lives in Kernersville--between Winston/Salem
and Greensboro--had tickets for the concert. She's a HUGE Springsteen fan. And she is pissed.
I'm really tempted to make a comment on her fb page about how actions have consequences.
But it won't change her mind.

I think it might be time to unfriend both of them.

BTW, both my sons are gay...and one is a graduate of UNC - Chapel Hill. He is no longer
a resident of NC since he's in grad school at Yale--but the other one lives in Cary.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
9. I live in North Carolina and have/had a pit ticket. I am angry, but not at Bruce. The fault
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:36 PM
Apr 2016

lies ENTIRELY with our idiot bigoted legislators and Governor McCrory. Ignorant law should NEVER have been passed.

(Pit ticket, by the way, is one that lets you get right up close to the stage).

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
41. Oh, the right-wingers in the N.C. legislature and our governor
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:47 AM
Apr 2016

have affected me and my livelihood in many negative ways more worrisome than a concert ticket.

Behind the Aegis

(53,952 posts)
42. Thank you!
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 05:25 AM
Apr 2016

I really want to highlight your post to another on this thread who remarked about the "unfairness" to the fans. Sure, it really sucks, you had some kick ass seats, but this law affects the dignity and the civil rights of an entire group of people.

Thank you for directing your anger at those who deserve it!

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
19. Ouch. I wonder if fans contact Springsteen's web page, what could be done...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:27 PM
Apr 2016

... perhaps moving the show to another venue, out of state.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
15. you can't start a fire without a spark
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:56 PM
Apr 2016


BTW What is their hang ups w/bathrooms? Something tells me that
more then a few of these bigots go to public restrooms "looking for love."

Me being a dull ass old straight white dude I have never found places where
people go to pee, drop a deuce, or blow chunks as being very romantic.

Utopian Leftist

(534 posts)
33. This is a sad vestige of homophobia, IMO.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 07:22 PM
Apr 2016

Homophobia still causes gays in many places to seek out sexual interaction in public restrooms. So now there is a law to punish us LGBT people, for a situation that was created by ignorance and homophobia. A situation where, were they simply free to love who they chose, they would not be inclined to resort to fast, secret gratification in non-romantic environments.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
21. After they had to cancel a show in Chicago, they released a full concert on their site for free.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:02 PM
Apr 2016

By way of apology. I'm sure ticketholders got refunds, and it still wasn't the same as going to a live show, but he definitely thinks of his fans, and does the best he can by them.

FreedomRain

(413 posts)
34. I won't fault him for taking a stand
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 07:44 PM
Apr 2016

if he felt he had to do it. But damnit these things tend to punish the wrong people. When Liz Phair cancelled a show here in the wake of the "Show your Papers" law, I was fairly upset. Never seen her and may not get another chance. Again, not going to dislike her for that, but I think it is misguided.

The jobs people, like Hollywood or Paypal trying to make a statement, I get, they don't want to deal with trying to enforce unfair practices on their potential employees. Recreation type boycotts though... the people that do it are generally disproportionately affecting the people they least need to convince. At least make it a "no new shows" rather than cancellations. Heck, the Boss could have used 5 minutes of his stage time to make a speech, it would have done more good.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
37. Not really fair to the fans who bought tickets
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:29 PM
Apr 2016

They most likely are not supporters of this legislation. They should not be punished. For many, I am sure this was a major event that they were greatly looking forward to. Why not just have the concert and donate all of the proceeds to fight this legislation and support LGBT citizens?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
43. What a ridiculous generalization.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 06:21 AM
Apr 2016

You know nothing about Springsteen's fans in the south.

Oh, and it's "their" not "there."

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
44. I took it to mean those that aren't actively involved in trying to get crazy people in the south
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 06:36 AM
Apr 2016

to start thinking logically instead of being manipulated by a bunch of religious, racist or bigoted nutballs. They are definitely here and most of them are running our governments for some insane reason.

Ford_Prefect

(7,892 posts)
45. The reason they are running Government in NC and many other places is Koch money
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:27 AM
Apr 2016

and MSM indifference. The former has enabled recruiting extremely RW conservative republican candidates who will do whatever the Koch machine tells them to do into the state legislature and Governor's mansion. The later enables a false equivalency that the extremists represent the majority of their own party and the majority in the state. In NC more Democratic votes were cast than Republican but due to gerrymandered districts the effect was to maintain the RW majority. The Federal Court really need to get off their asses about this and hear the cases we've brought in due time.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
62. Many Many Thanks
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:41 PM
Apr 2016

i lived many years in the south - Alabama - Texas - florida - north caroline

and michigan colorado wypming california

very different dems - many in the south are "shy" about truth to swine

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
61. Oh, and it's "their" not "there."
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:38 PM
Apr 2016

Study says those who call out grammatical errors are in fact scientifically 'jerks'
Study says those who call out grammatical errors are in fact scientifically 'jerks'



Everybody knows the world's worst people are the ones who never miss an opportunity to explain the difference between who and whom. Those "friends" who are pretending to be policing spelling and grammar for the sake of posterity are probably just flexing for attention, or so it seems to everyone they're interrupting.
As a study from the University of Michigan recently found, those people aren't just annoying, they're also apparently huge jerks.

The study looked at the way both introverted and extroverted people reacted to typos within emails, and deduced that those who were less socially-inclined tended to "judge the person who makes such errors more negatively."


For the experiment, 83 subjects were asked to peruse email responses for a roommate ad. Some contained no errors, but others had been altered to include simple common errors. For example, in some, "about" might have been written "abuot," and in other instances, "their" and "there," or "you're" and "your" might have been swapped incorrectly.

After subjects had looked over the emails, they were questioned first as to whether or not they noticed the emails, and if they had responded "Yes," they were asked to expand upon their answer.

As researchers found, those were surveyed to be "less agreeable" were most bothered by the errors, while those who surveyed as having a "more agreeable" personality tended to overlook typos.

"Agreeability was the only personality trait to have a main effect on the Housemate Scale," the study read. "Participants who tested as more agreeable on the BFI tended to rate the paragraphs more positively overall than participants who tested as less agreeable."
http://m.sfgate.com/news/article/Study-says-those-who-call-out-grammatical-errors-7221146.php

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
63. Chris Christie is a huge Boss fan
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:47 PM
Apr 2016

Oh well...guess they'll have to get their money back...and...they'll live.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
51. Not Bruce's fault.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:15 PM
Apr 2016

If they're blaming Bruce then they're part of the problem. Take to the streets and demand change.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
52. It is actually entirely Bruce's fault
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:18 PM
Apr 2016

He made the decision to cancel the concert and, thus, disappoint the fans who had purchased the tickets.

He could have used the concert as an opportunity to tell his fans that they should take to the streets and demand change.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
53. Nope.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

But it's nice to see you deflecting blame from the homophobic government of North Carolina. A missed concert isn't on the same level as systematic oppression, his cancelling of the show has made national headlines, it's working.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
64. LOL
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

Those damn black---how dare they get upset at the Rosa Parks thing and protest by not riding the bus.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
67. Of course it is
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 05:06 PM
Apr 2016

He decided to cancel the concert. That was his decision.

Obviously a missed concert is not on the same level as systematic oppression, and I am not deflecting blame from the homophobic government of North Carolina. I just think that it's not the fault of the people going to the concert that this horrible law was passed. Some people are unfortunate enough to find themselves living among a large homophobic population and do not really have the wherewithal to move elsewhere.

There are lots of different ways that Bruce could've drawn attention to this issue that would have made national headlines while still performing for the people who bought tickets to see him perform.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
70. There are plenty of reasons, this is the one he chose.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 05:14 PM
Apr 2016

Blame the political "leaders" of North Carolina. Do you believe in crossing picket lines too?

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
65. So when Black folks stopped taking the bus...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:50 PM
Apr 2016

As a form of protest because of the Rosa Parks situation...bad on them huh?

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
66. +1
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:56 PM
Apr 2016

A little discomfort now (if you call missing a concert discomfort) is nothing compared to the long term consequences of this law.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
68. You are comparing the canceling of a rock concert to the Montgomery Bus Boycott?
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 05:09 PM
Apr 2016

That seems a little specious.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
74. Agreed
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 05:44 PM
Apr 2016

I feel like I am not communicating well in this instance. Obviously, the bus boycott was consequential and a concert being cancelled is not. This was a thread about the concert, though, and I just thought it was unfortunate that it was cancelled when people had already purchased tickets and were looking forward to the show and had nothing to do with the legislation.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
73. I'm sorry I must be misunderstanding something
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 05:42 PM
Apr 2016

All I was saying was that it was unfortunate that Bruce cancelled the concert. I felt bad for the people who had bought tickets and were looking forward to the show.

You brought up Rosa Parks in a somewhat oblique way that seemed to suggest a relationship between the bus boycott and the concert cancellation.

Those do not appear to me to be analogous situations, hence my confusion.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
77. That makes sense
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 06:01 PM
Apr 2016

As I reflect more on this, I certainly understand the impetus for Bruce to do something like this. I did not mean to suggest that it was not admirable of him to take a stand on this important issue.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
80. Then they should thank Springsteen for the impetus to get up and do something
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:30 PM
Apr 2016

about this godawful law.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
46. Wherever there's someboday fightin' for a place to stand.....
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:05 AM
Apr 2016

Now Tom said "Mom, wherever there's a cop beatin' a guy
Wherever a hungry newborn baby cries
Where there's a fight 'gainst the blood and hatred in the air
Look for me Mom I'll be there
Wherever there's somebody fightin' for a place to stand
Or decent job or a helpin' hand
Wherever somebody's strugglin' to be free
Look in their eyes Mom you'll see me."

Watch The Ghost of Tom Joad on Youtube...look for version with Tom Morello, live. I always get chills when watching (also saw it live) but especially now that it's put into action, today, now.

This version comes with a true DU introduction at Madison Square Garden:

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
49. Public Venues have Public Toilets: Please contact Gov. McCrory before you potty in public.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:08 PM
Apr 2016

Every time you use a North Carolina public restroom, be sure to contact Governor Pat McCrory to confirm your adherence to or disregard of #HB2. #PeeingForPat #Pee4Pat

Governor's Office: 919-814-2000
Email: https://governor.nc.gov/contact/email-governor
Twitter (Pat): https://twitter.com/PatMcCroryNC
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