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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDnot people talk about their bigotry and racism in private?
I was pumping gas today and this Caucasian man in his upper 50's maybe 60's is at the pump next to me pumping gas in his huge truck. He is on his cell phone talking rather loudly...enough to where I couldn't escape his conversation. Here is what I heard,
"oh yeah. He went to Mexico too but didn't like it. Yea, too many mexicans for his liking." Who talks like this! !?!?!!
My jaw dropped and my eyes immediately started scanning for trump signs. People really talk like this? I guess I live in an insulated world. People in my world just DO NOT talk like this. EVER. Even if people are prejudiced, I am never privy to their bullshit. This shocked me. And while I can hold my tongue, I cannot control my facial expressions. I am sure I gave him one of my disgusted, angry looks. He probably felt my eyes burning into his skull. Because after he said that, I noticed he got shifty and would NOT look at me. He rushed to get back into his truck and slinked away.
Can't we just round up THESE assholes and ship them to Mars?
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)I can figure they are for trump. I don't need much information, which might make me a low information voter, except I am usually right.
Of course they are for Trump.
Behind the Aegis
(53,938 posts)I was told the best place to buy a car was 'such and such' because they won't "Jew you."
I am Jewish! (I just don't "look" Jewish.)
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(Mother wanted her son's roommate moved from his room because the roommate was black.) Well, I just don't think it is right. I want that boy moved out of my son's room. Listen, I don't have a problem with those people, but my son shouldn't have to live with it (Yes, she said "it" in reference to the roommate). Can I be honest? I mean you obviously aren't one because you don't sound like one.
At that point, I interrupted and confirmed her suspicion by simply saying, "Yes, you are correct, ma'am, I am not African-American, but my boyfriend is." (She knew she was talking to a man.)
She hung up! Was it something I said?!
(BTW, the son didn't want to move; he liked his roommate. Oh, and she called my boss, who started laughing so loud people came running to his office to see what had happened.)
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(Guy was hitting on me, running his fingers through my hair, almost picking at it). I asked, "What are you looking for?!" He replied, "I thought you were Jewish?"
He was looking for my horns. Yes, in 1998 (99...I can't remember which, but I was still in NC) a person still believed Jewish people have horns on their head.
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At the gay bar, Christmas Drag show fundraiser, and the owner of the bar, "How do Jews celebrate Christmas? They dance around the cash register!" Crowd cheers and applauds. Two more "Jew" jokes follow before the bartender "accidently" broke the PA system.
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I went to the mall with one of my closest friends (African-American) and her newborn daughter (my niece). She was very light-skinned when she was little. A woman walked by and sneered and said, "Disgusting!" (My niece was the picture of beauty, still is.) I said, "Excuse me?!" She hissed, "Races shouldn't mix!" I handed off my niece to my friend in the store, walked back out and said, "Her father is AA as well. So, I am not the father. Anyway, I suck cock!" She stormed off! Something I said?!
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I could go on and on just with MY personal stories, never mind the ones I know from friends, but yeah, some people let their hate flag fly loud and proud. Many are much more "covert", but they are out there.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,938 posts)I just wanted to show there are some who are so clueless they even insult people right to their face not knowing it. There is a huge disconnect with some, including those on the left, when it comes to issues of bigotry. Some of the lesser known ones don't get discussed as much, but they are out there. Personally, I am OK, most of the time, with persons "outing" themselves as bigots because it let's me know to give them a wide berth.
It also shows you never know who is listening or what their issues/concerns may be. I don't "look" Jewish, so I have heard lots of anti-Semitism. My husband doesn't "look/act" gay, so he has heard lots of homophobic remarks. My mom doesn't "look" (however that may be...LOL) like a mother with a gay child, but she is (and I don't suggest ever saying anything homophobic around her; it isn't pretty). People can't "see" I have African-American nieces.
Sometimes, people just need to remember they aren't in their living rooms, and need to use their "inside, in public" voice. Others have no such filter.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)their bigotry here. They are Skinner's All Stars.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)To be racist, bigots out loud.
Yes, it's disgusting. But sometimes I would rather know where they are coming from right up front. I know who to stay away from that way. Nothing I say is going to change them so it's better to just keep my distance. I live in Missouri so there are some total assholes around here.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)It sickens me to see this bubbling up in such grand fashion. People have lost their minds.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)They just knew to keep what they really thought and felt quiet.
Ugly is clear through. I don't want anything to do with those people.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)In my experience, MOST people speak like this in private. Over the last 8 years, people are voicing their racism and bigotry more publicly but it has always been there.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Immediately when they are private among fellow souls, but normally after the second or third drink out in the back yard at most social events I've been at.
Or sometimes right up on the podium against whites when one of them speaks at a minority-power event. Bigotry is a personality characteristic strongest in conservatives (but especially virulent in social conservatives) of all races in roughly the same proportions.
And these days bigots whose expression is repressed by social pressures can act out their nastiness with impunity against people of different political persuasion. Politics-based bigotry is running amok. Also discrimination -- anyone who wants to get a new job, or even keep his current one, could be asking for real trouble by revealing his political orientation these days. As expected, discrimination and actual hostility are strongest in conservatives on others, but liberals are also discriminating in lesser numbers on the basis of political orientation. Note, this is not discrimination based on personality type, which can be justifiable in hiring, but simply Pub or Dem.
MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)it.
bhikkhu
(10,714 posts)At my former job we had sometimes older male customers in the waiting room. Sometimes when there was only one or two they'd test the waters with some mild political comments, and if the banter wasn't disapproved of they'd think they had a like-minded compatriot, trot out the n-word, go on about Mexicans and so forth. I always found it disturbing and discouraging.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Now that's progressive...
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)dumbcat
(2,120 posts)Haven't heard that term in a while.
http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-white-and-caucasian/
Matrosov
(1,098 posts)I was grocery shopping on Friday. Two men were having a political conversation in the middle of a crowded aisle. One of them was saying how he can't wait for the 'Halfrican' to leave office, but if we get another communist in the White House, this country will be in real trouble, because liberals only care about screwing over white Christians. Obama has already done enough damage over the past eight years.
The other man was nodding in agreement. I looked around and couldn't find anyone who seemed concerned or embarrassed. Everyone went about their business as if this was a perfectly normal conversation.
Then again I live in a conservative bastion in the Deep South, where I pretty much never talk politics with anyone but my most trusted friends (because being a progressive here is kind of like being an African-American standing in the middle of a Klan rally). Maybe it would be a little bit of a stretch to say that was a perfectly normal conversation, but it definitely wasn't an unusual or abnormal one for these parts either.
Rex
(65,616 posts)A lot of people have a little bit of racism in them, the ones with overflowing amounts however think the world thinks like they do and so are not shy about exposing their inner human to total strangers.
That is why, when they come across a situation that confronts their racist tendencies they are all amazed and cannot believe anyone would think different then they do.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)Worst I ever felt in my life was when I slipped and called a previous mechanics work as N-----rigged. It just slipped out. That was 45 years ago and I am around other people that talk that way but not me. I liked that man and I could tell he noticed my saying that.
But you know, back in that same period of time farmers were called hayseed and several other names I can't recall. They even had the Beverly Hillbillies that made fun of people from Appalachia.
How do you talk about other people?