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Is a New Informal Constitution Being Written in Washington?In these first years of the 21st century, we may be witnessing a new world being born inside the hollowed-out shell of the American system.
BY TOM ENGELHARDT | MARCH 28, 2016
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.......... this is not an election. I know the word election is being used every five seconds and somewhere along the line significant numbers of Americans (particularly, this season, Republicans) continue to enter voting booths or in the case of primary caucuses, school gyms and the like, to choose among various candidates, so its all still election-like. But take my word for it as a 71-year-old guy whos been watching our politics for decades: this is not an election of the kind the textbooks once taught us was so crucial to American democracy. If, however, youre sitting there waiting for me to tell you what it is, take a breath and dont be too disappointed. I have no idea, though its certainly part bread-and-circuses spectacle, part celebrity obsession and part media money machine.
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This is not war as we knew it, nor government as we once understood it, nor are these elections as we once imagined them, nor is this democracy as it used to be conceived of, nor is this journalism of a kind ever taught in a journalism school. This is the definition of uncharted territory. Its a genuine American terra incognita and yet in some fashion that unknown landscape is already part of our sense of ourselves and our world. In this election season, many remain shocked that a leading candidate for the presidency is a demagogue with a visible authoritarian side and what looks like an autocratic bent. All such labels are pinned on Donald Trump, but the new American system thats been emerging from its chrysalis in these years already has just those tendencies. So dont blame it all on Donald Trump. He should be far less of a shock to this country than he continues to be. After all, a Trumpian world-in-formation has paved the way for him.
Who knows? Perhaps what were watching is the new iteration of a very old story: a 21st-century version of an ancient tale of a great imperial power,perhaps the greatest ever the lone superpower sinking into decline. Its a tale humanity has experienced often enough in the course of our long history. But lest you think once again that theres nothing new under the sun, the context for all of this, for everything now happening in our world, is so new as to be quite literally outside of thousands of years of human experience. As the latest heat records indicate, we are, for the first time, ona planet in decline. And if that isnt uncharted territory, what is?
MORE:
http://billmoyers.com/story/entering-uncharted-territory-in-washington/
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)....it is the result of manipulation of the system - by the power elites - coming apart at the seams.
Basically, the top-percenters are getting everything they asked for - shoved down their throats.
I would like to suggest that:
- We are in for a rougher primary season than we have had so far from now until the conventions
- The conventions may include open political warfare
- We are in for a brutal GE campaign season
- We could be in for a failed 4 year presidency - including, possibly, an impeachment (of a Pres. Clinton by the Republicans), fratricide (Republicans disowning a Pres. Trump and basically freezing up the government) or worse.
But somehow I see the American system emerging - even possibly many years from now - better and stronger for it.
The only thing that really scares me is Pres. Clinton with a friendly congress.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)the last president.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Corporatism Democracy. And the next stage will be Fascistic Democracy,with a two class Society.
Going to be a interesting Summer to say the least. And the fun part will be watching Trump Boy going down in flames. And taking his GOP buds with him.
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)I think we are watching the world of the 1% going down in flames.
This election, including Trump and Clinton, are monsters of their (the elites) making.
Unfortunately, as always, it is up to the American people to clean up the mess.*
*And to pay for the soap and paper towels.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)route. Notice how this late in the Primary Season,we here zero about down Ballot Races. In that lies a major issue. In all the years of involvement in local Politics,we always brought the down ballot people along with the Standard barrier. Even if that spot had not been decided at this stage of the election process.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Loyalty of 33 State Democratic Parties" I can understand why the down ticket is so silent. I'd be ashamed also.
Most of our Super- delegates are down ticket office holders and the above article is about them and why they do not follow the voters of their states. If true we are in big trouble. Bigger than we thought.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Collusion between the Clinton campaign and the DNC allowed Hillary Clinton to buy the loyalty of 33 state Democratic parties last summer. Montana was one of those states. It sold itself for $64,100.
. . . .
The idea was to increase how much one could personally donate to Hillary by taking advantage of the Supreme Court ruling 2014, McCutcheon v FEC, that knocked down a cap on aggregate limits as to how much a donor could give to a federal campaign in a year. It thus eliminated the ceiling on amounts spent by a single donor to a presidential candidate.
In other words, a single donor, by giving 10,000 dollars a year to each signatory state could legally give an extra $330,000 a year for two years to the Hillary Victory Fund. For each donor, this raised their individual legal cap on the Presidential campaign to $660,000 if given in both 2015 and 2016. And to one million, three hundred and 20 thousand dollars if an equal amount were also donated in their spouses name.
. . . .
What do billionaires like Esprit Founder Susie Buell of California, and Sri Lankan lobbyist Imaad Zuberi of California, and media mogul Fred Eychaner of Chicago, and Donald Sussman hedgefund manager from New York and Chicago real estate mogul J.B Pritzker, and gay activist Jon Stryker of NY, and NRA and Viacom lobbyist Jeffrey Forbes and entertainment mogul Haim Saban all have in common?
(Find out here
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/01/how-hillary-clinton-bought-the-loyalty-of-33-state-democratic-parties/
revbones
(3,660 posts)Can't find the link again now though. Any knowledge on that part?
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Holding it hostage for their Votes?
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I'd be happy to see each one of them set up in a nice middle-class house with a nice middle-class job.
While they watched on the evening news about the money they Hoovered up being clawed back.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Tangled with the Snob Class in our Party before,and this is what Bernie's Campaign is really all about,getting in the face of the 1%ers and not backing off. The down ballot folks can hang till July if needed and the last Ninety Days are crunch time. The ugly is DWS,she is so out to lunch.
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uhnope
(6,419 posts)self delete
tabasco
(22,974 posts)if we are able to take this country back from those who wish to be monarchs.
zentrum
(9,865 posts).name for corporate democracy is Mussolini fascism.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Both parties are now controlled by the corporatists and a majority (apparently) in both parties has no problem with that. Or even worse welcome it with open arms. From there it is an easy road to an American model of fascism.
Raster
(20,998 posts)And yes, a President Clinton with a friendly Congress would mean the 1% gets all their goodies in one big basket.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)She'll give it all away.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)I hope we emerge better and stronger. I do agree with all you have said!
NJCher
(35,622 posts)Maybe all that hope I had invested in a potential Bernie win is a waste.
Cher
stopbush
(24,393 posts)Do you think article like these would be flooding the media were Bernie in the lead? Did you see articles like this early in the primary season when Bernie was even with Hillary after winning NH? Do you see articles like this coming from RW sources?
No. It's all about our democacy is dead because Bernie is gonna lose to Hillary.
Yallow
(1,926 posts)The Revolution Has Started.
Bernie can do more in the White House, but as he said, it is about us.
Without us there is no Bernie.
Without Bernie as President, there is still us.
Change is up to us, not Bernie.
stopbush
(24,393 posts)Bernie's "revolution" is Occupy 2.0.
But worse than the now-dead Occupy blip, Bernie's revolution is nothing without Bernie. Personality-based revolutions have very short half-lives.
"Us" will go back to the same indifference they displayed for the political process before they became enamored of Bernie and his promises of free stuff. Sorry that's how it will go down, but it's human nature.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Don't worry about tomorrow, because there's nothing you can do about it? Just be as comfortable as you can with the time you have left?
Not going to happen.
But you have a lovely day anyways.
bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)Meanwhile, the useless, pusillanimous Democratic Party continues its love affair with the Oligarchs.
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)The 1% will not stop, ever! The Terminator could take lessons from them. Their greed knows no bounds because it will never be enough for them! That is how they control things now, they never stopped pushing and we were asleep at the wheel.
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce started funding state, local, and judicial elections where it was very cheap for them to have a dramatic effect. They took over the state legislatures as a way to block unpopular Federal programs. The judicial elections have allowed them to acquire judges like a Major League team acquires farm clubs. The DNC was silent on this and let them do it.
This is not some fad. OWS failed because they had no leader and too many issues. This election and Bernie have brought the real issues to the forefront. How can this revolution stop if the driving force for it is still pushing us off of the cliff?
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)then we found our candidate BERNIE
we know it is an uphill battle but
as my fav line from monty python says,
we're not dead yet!!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)That poster has carried a lot of water for the lone gunman theorists of Nov. 22, 1963:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023811787#post146
Thanks for the heads-up, though, Dustlawyer.
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)It is about a time traveler who is going to try and stop Oswald.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)It's the simple - NON PARTISAN - fact that both front runners are - in effect - locked in a death grip WITH THEIR OWN PARTIES.
The Republican establishment (the current legislative branch) hates Trump.
The Democratic establishment (the current executive branch) may be about to indict Clinton.
Forget - totally - about Bernie right now. For this discussion he need not even exist.
The above two candidates are so beholden to established money, and not the voters, that...
They have lost all sense of serving the people, or even working within the system.
This is also why the 'down ballot' candidates have been ignored so far.
The head has become detached from the body - on both sides - and has become it's own monster.
And that monster does nothing but eat and grow (get donations and increase their own power)
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)that the TWO "presumptive" leaders are going to be THE WORST this country has ever produced! So many say THEY WILL VOTE, but then the we all add "we're really NOT SURE" are votes are actually being counted. There's an over all feeling that RIGGING of the system is rampant and there seems to be NO WAY "we the people" can prove OR fix it!
It's been taken out of our hands and we end up fighting to find a way to correct it. IF you try to point it out to others, especially if it points against a candidate they support, people just call you sore losers.
THAT can't be the answer and it will do nothing to fix ANYTHING! America has become a country that NOW seems to ONLY believe that WINNING is all we need. AND, worst of all, who cares how someone wins! From politics, sports, debates ANY subject you bring up, THE BOTTOM LINE is that YOU HAVE TO WIN!
And we ALL suffer because WINNING doesn't really mean WINNING anymore. It just means some OUTCOME has happened and WE MUST adjust to it. But, most of us go into any game will far too many chips to really WIN ANYTHING AT ALL!
It's just a game, and FIGHTING is how you do it!
Past history has shown us and it's been a known and accepted fact that MOST SUPER POWERS generally start to fall after 200 years! Well, we're on borrowed time and UNWILLING to CHANGE COURSE!
To SAVE this Nation, WE MUST cut our ties and MOVE FORWARD or even the STATUS QUO means going backwards!
REALITY BITES!
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)nt
Raster
(20,998 posts)More of a manifestation, actually.
dchill
(38,451 posts)Hillary is what grew there.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)As Orwell put it.
beastie boy
(9,237 posts)I suspect what we are witnessing is nothing less than the beginning of the end of capitalism itself.
And it will happen on a global scale.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Because the ruin it is causing is beyond comprehension.
beastie boy
(9,237 posts)But no matter how glitsy it looks from the outside, the system is rotting from the inside, and I don't see how it can stop the process
Hydra
(14,459 posts)We don't have a lot of time to get this right- capitalism has brought us climate change, and stalled efforts to roll back the damage for too long.
As you say, it looks glitzy, but it's all gilding. It's all rotten underneath.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I think that horse has left the barn. Basically most of the life forms on this planet are screwed. Some will survive and thrive, and many others will become extinct. But we are in for a world of hurt in the next decades.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)........especially Is a New Political System Emerging in this Country? and the 1% election.
The first was written in 2015, early in the primary season; the second comes from 2011. Both anticipate Hillary Clinton's campaign and her appeal to the 1% (actually 0.1%).
What I think we are seeing in this election cycle is basically two, possible three, possibilities emerging:
- The continuation of a government of the 1%, by the 1% and totally for the 1% (represented by Secretary Clinton, or
- The re-emergence of American Democracy and the restoration, and extension of FDR's New Deal (represented by Bernie Sanders), or
- A virulent form of 21st Century fascism, (represented by Trump).
I said two, possibly three possibilities because I really don't think the majority of the American people are dumb enough to elect Donald Trump, although this still remains as a possibility.
lots of good stuff
peace,
kp
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:57 PM - Edit history (1)
campaign 2016 is expected to hit the $5 billion mark without breaking a sweatThe previous election season, the midterms of 2014, cost almost $4 billion, a record despite the number of small donors continuing to drop. It also represented the lowest midterm voter turnout since World War II.
This is what big money in politics does...this is the result of Citizen's United (although it started before that). The disenfranchisement of the voter. Voter apathy.
This is why Bernie is so popular this election cycle. We want to participate, but what is the point if the campaign is run and paid for by the 1%?
I can only hope that your option two is the final direction this election takes. Because I don't really want to be alive for the other two.
Your Bill Moyers link to a Tom Engelhardt article really needs to be read. It is terrifying...but we need to face the truth.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)For the first time in mankind's history.
And only one candidate puts it as the #1 issue. What good is any other thing if we can't breathe or feed ourselves?
chapdrum
(930 posts)Exactly.
If the air and water are willfully polluted, that is "simply" protracted suicide.
Possible antidote: STOP allowing corporations the same rights as people.
They are not f*cking asteroids, but we have allowed them to become that.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Indeed! And thank you.
Besides corporations, most environmentalists agree that the planet cannot support the global population growth. That leave us a hard choice: limit ourselves or die.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)appropriate because they will result in the incorrect conclusion that more and more of humanity are "worthless" as machines do more and more work.
And that clearly is not right.
Its not such a big thing IF we face reality honestly. its no more than what i just described. And its not so daunting a challenge if we step back from it, take a deep breath and look at all the great things we DO have. We have a great country. (lots of the idiots we see online are fake)
Basically, we all are good people, (I'm talking about the whole world here, not just the US)
we just need to take more time off and be better family members and share more. Not such huge changes for most people. The US leadership needs to shift to a more responsible, less self-absorbed mode. Its not all about them. Or even us. We have to learn to be one of the community of nations instead of a country that insists its te top nation, we should deliberately choose to be less aggressively in charge.
Many people in the rest of the world are perhaps more clued in than we are.
malaise
(268,724 posts)Sent it to some friends
polynomial
(750 posts)The reasoning is getting clear why Sanders is doing well in the primary. There is a bias that the broadcast media knows yet does not admit to.
Sanders getting those Republicans which cross over in the primary and leave the hate base conservatives vote for Trump.
The real scary part is not a Hillary Presidency. Any mental politics that makes the effort she did to start the change of healthcare needs to continue to shape it better.
Sanders, has been a long time Independent according to Wiki. Working both sides of the Algebra equation for decades.
Consequently in the background deal making has been a long time effort for Sanders and will continue even to be president. Yet special deals for the Supreme Court into a fair standard Democratic supportive Constitution likely will not happen, a better chance with Hillary.
The other Independent was Joe Liebermann who quickly embraced McCain and the Republicans.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-trump-california-primary-downticket-20160331-snap-htmlstory.html
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)Project for the New American Century (The Center for Media and Democracy/SourceWatch)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
K&R
uhnope
(6,419 posts)but I've noticed that many people with issues (delusions, persecution complexes etc.) actually wish for fascism to come to the US
ish of the hammer
(444 posts)a velvet revolution in 10 years (again, if we're lucky) or what in 20 years when some of our coastal cities really begin to drown.
the billionaires think they will be immune, ensconsed in their mountaintop palaces.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,271 posts)and is in support of what is internationally recognised as the government of Somalia. See eg http://www.un.org/press/en/2015/sc12109.doc.htm
Al-Shabaab is affiliated with al Qaeda, and allied with Boko Haram. Fighting terrorists in conjunction with international organisations is not really something revolutionary in the US's foreign policy.
DebbieCDC
(2,543 posts)throughout history. Just count a few: Greece, Rome, Persia, the Ottomans, Charlemagne, etc.
If we don't get this election right, then it's our turn.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)We are just an idyllic democratic republic with a large corporate parasite on our back
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and I went a step further, these are pretend elections
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Look at Hillary's tantrum this week. In her mind, they should have skipped over all of this by now and given her the nomination.
"I'm tired of having to pretend all this matters!"
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Torture, illegal invasions and random killing has become an open part of the Presidential toolbox...and as George Carlin put it, "Nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care..."
deutsey
(20,166 posts)One of my favorite times in history is the Roman empire. I've always been fascinated by it and more and more I can't help but feel I'm getting a first-hand experience of what it must have been like as the empire began its decline
uhnope
(6,419 posts)The word "empire" is thrown around way too loosely.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)spanone
(135,795 posts)CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)Dem leadership either thinks they can win without the left or they are still confident we will get in line & vote dem no matter how the nominee is.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Glenn Greenwald
theguardian.com, Friday 19 October 2012 20.38 EDT
On 29 May 2012, the New York Times published a remarkable 6,000-word story on its front page about what it termed President Obama's "kill list". It detailed the president's personal role in deciding which individuals will end up being targeted for assassination by the CIA based on Obama's secret, unchecked decree that they are "terrorists" and deserve to die.
Based on interviews with "three dozen of his current and former advisers", the Times' Jo Becker and Scott Shane provided extraordinary detail about Obama's actions, including how he "por over terrorist suspects' biographies on what one official calls the macabre 'baseball cards'" and how he "insist on approving every new name on an expanding 'kill list'". At a weekly White House meeting dubbed "Terror Tuesdays", Obama then decides who will die without a whiff of due process, transparency or oversight. It was this process that resulted in the death of US citizen Anwar Awlaki in Yemen, and then two weeks later, the killing of his 16-year-old American son, Abdulrahman, by drone.
The Times "kill list" story made a huge impact and was widely discussed and condemned by media figures, politicians, analysts, and commentators. Among other outlets, the New York Times itself harshly editorialized against Obama's program in an editorial entitled "Too Much Power For a President", denouncing the revelations as "very troubling" and argued: "No one in that position should be able to unilaterally order the killing of American citizens or foreigners located far from a battlefield - depriving Americans of their due-process rights - without the consent of someone outside his political inner circle."
That Obama has a "kill list" has been known since January, 2010, and has been widely reported and discussed in every major American newspaper since April 2010. A major controversy over chronic White House leaks often featured complaints about this article (New York Times, 5 June 2012: "Senators to Open Inquiry Into 'Kill List' and Iran Security Leaks" . The Attorney General, Eric Holder, gave a major speech defending it.
But Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Democratic Congresswoman from Florida and the Chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, does not know about any of this. She has never heard of any of it. She has managed to remain completely ignorant about the fact that President Obama has asserted and exercised the power to secretly place human beings, including US citizens, on his "kill list" and then order the CIA to extinguish their lives.
CONTINUED...
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/20/wasserman-schultz-kill-list