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struggle4progress

(118,274 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:36 PM Mar 2016

Bundy brothers and 2 co-defendants appeal to higher court to remain in Oregon

By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on March 28, 2016 at 4:38 PM, updated March 28, 2016 at 4:46 PM

Ammon Bundy, his brother Ryan Bundy, and co-defendants Ryan Payne and Brian Cavalier are appealing ... U.S. District Court Judge Anna J. Brown's ruling last week that would allow U.S. marshals to transport them April 13 to Nevada ...

Their defense lawyers argued that they didn't think federal prosecutors in Oregon and Nevada should pursue criminal cases against the defendants at the same time. Splitting time between courtrooms and jail cells in Oregon and Nevada would severely compromise their ability to meaningfully communicate with their defense attorneys and would interfere with their rights to speedy trials, they argued ...

The formal notice of appeal was made to the court on Monday, likely placing any transfer on hold until the matter is heard by the appellate court.


http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/03/bundy_brothers_and_2_co-defend.html

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Bundy brothers and 2 co-defendants appeal to higher court to remain in Oregon (Original Post) struggle4progress Mar 2016 OP
Yup! Good luck with that guys. longship Mar 2016 #1
They will likely win this one. A lot of good that will do them. L. Coyote Mar 2016 #2
Pass the popcorn. Hugin Mar 2016 #3
They just try to create grounds for later appeal. L. Coyote Mar 2016 #5
well, they posted all the evidence on the internet Wounded Bear Mar 2016 #6
You guys want a speedy trial, don't you? gratuitous Mar 2016 #4

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. Yup! Good luck with that guys.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:13 AM
Mar 2016

All the Bundy Rabbits disallow the court's authority just like they disallow federal authority over... well, just about everything.

Q: Is Ryan Bundy Rabbit still going to be his own lawyer?

I wish I had the popcorn concession at the court house.

Thanks for your great coverage, s4p.


L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
2. They will likely win this one. A lot of good that will do them.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:15 AM
Mar 2016

The court needs to grant this because if they have to go forward, they will use this to appeal the verdict.

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
3. Pass the popcorn.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:30 AM
Mar 2016

True... True...

Here's my novice theory on this... Now, that there's some high powered defense attorneys on the scene.

They are probably facing the more serious charges in Nevada. Also, that is a case that's almost two years old. I'm unaware of the stat-o-limits, but, it seems like more often than not it's 3 to 5 years.

So, what's the answer from the DT? Run out the clock on the Nevada charges by avoiding the trial there. Then, by the time it's time for the Oregon trial the delay is a ready made technical defense.

May be good advice. May not be. Watch for appeal after appeal. ('till the money runs out, of course)

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
5. They just try to create grounds for later appeal.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:48 AM
Mar 2016

You can't say you were denied justice when you passed on the opportunity to ask for it. If they ask and are denied, they create a shot at getting the inevitable conviction tossed. They have to find an out other than winning because they will be convicted.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. You guys want a speedy trial, don't you?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:45 AM
Mar 2016

Shoulda thought of that before you went on a multi-state federal crime spree.

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