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Nothing, not a damn thing, (Original Post) ProSense Jun 2012 OP
Sure smells like shit to me. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #1
I think it is the money - was it 8:1? Most from the outside? NRaleighLiberal Jun 2012 #2
i agree. something stinks. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #3
Agree. Not close to the polls and not believable that Walker supports favor Obama Matariki Jun 2012 #4
not really - it is Wisconsin after all hfojvt Jun 2012 #15
The Corporations voted. Democracy is dead, one Barrett supporter said. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #5
I'm with you lunatica Jun 2012 #6
Money and the churches - TBF Jun 2012 #7
Still think someone should check the same day registrations. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #8
people are gulible and buy the right wing shit /nt jimlup Jun 2012 #9
Too true. flamingdem Jun 2012 #12
Corprat money bought 'em a Guv. ProfessionalLeftist Jun 2012 #10
Mass repetition of weaponized memes using vast quantities of money using sudopod Jun 2012 #11
Sure there is. progressoid Jun 2012 #13
Money talks and bullshit walks. lonestarnot Jun 2012 #14

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
2. I think it is the money - was it 8:1? Most from the outside?
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:55 PM
Jun 2012

As I always use for an example - why is Bud Light (always one of the worst rated beer in tastings) by far the best selling beer in the US? Advertising works. This is the horror of the Citizens United decision. A huge monetary advantage will just about always win. Dems need to figure out a way around this issue - and FAST.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
4. Agree. Not close to the polls and not believable that Walker supports favor Obama
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:57 PM
Jun 2012

and so it goes. same thing every time.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
15. not really - it is Wisconsin after all
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:15 AM
Jun 2012

In 1992 and 1996 Wisconsin voted for Clinton, in 2000 Wisconsin voted for Gore. Yet in the same state
1990 Thompson won 58-42
1994 Thompson won 67-31
1998 Thompson won 60-39

Heck, that piece of crap would probably still be Governor of Wisconsin if Bush hadn't tapped him to be Secretary of HHS. For some reason Wisconsin, in spite of being a moderately blue state, likes its Republican Governors.

The other thing is - those are off-year elections. Meaning the President is not running that year, so voter turnout is less. The side that wins is the side that is more motivated to goto the polls, but also people get more motivated to goto the polls when they think they can win.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
5. The Corporations voted. Democracy is dead, one Barrett supporter said.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:59 PM
Jun 2012

Money talks, and buys elections. Until we get the money out of politics, the people are no match for Corporate money.

$25 million - $4 million. Those were the odds, our elections have little to do with anything BUT money!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. I'm with you
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:00 PM
Jun 2012

I think a lot of underhanded shenanigans happened. Lots. We'll be hearing about them for a while too.

Barrett just said he won't concede until the votes are all counted. It's 8 pm in California.

TBF

(32,012 posts)
7. Money and the churches -
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:00 PM
Jun 2012

I have a lot of family/friends there - folks in small towns. They are not very educated and listen to their churches. They voted for Walker because they see "family values" - they don't connect the republican party with the loss of jobs (they have been influenced to blame immigrants, welfare mothers, unions, etc. - multi-million dollar ad campaigns behind these efforts).

I saw folks in my Facebook feed this morning who were talking about voting for the first time - for Walker - and these are not folks who have any economic interest in doing so. It's frightening and I am not sure how to combat it.

sudopod

(5,019 posts)
11. Mass repetition of weaponized memes using vast quantities of money using
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:14 PM
Jun 2012

cutting edge marketing techniques.

progressoid

(49,951 posts)
13. Sure there is.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:30 PM
Jun 2012

It's the same things that explains his initial win. And Bush's re-election. And Jan Brewer's election. And so on.

The first things that come to my mind are Fox News, AM radio, fear, anger and moronic voters.

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