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Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:26 PM Mar 2016

It's Over Gandalf. We Need to Unite Behind Saruman to Save Middle Earth from Sauron!

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I’ve been on Team Gandalf ever since he first visited the Shire. It was so nice to see a wizard who was truly a wizard of the people. The kind of wizard who wouldn’t even throw you in a dungeon for smoking a little Longbottom Leaf or Old Toby. Here was a wizard who didn’t have a big fancy tower. His staff and cloak were rather plain and grey. And he had quite a dream, didn’t he?

Gandalf had the crazy idea that some little hobbits could stand up to and defy the power of the billionaire class Dark Lord Sauron. But I guess that was a pipe dream after all.

Gandalf failed. He got his ass locked up atop Saruman’s tower when he foolishly defied the head of the Democratic Party council of wizards. And now that he’s locked up it’s not like some eagle is going to magically appear and rescue him. It’s over. And now Saruman is our only hope against Sauron.

We need to stop saying nasty things about Saruman or it will be difficult to rally the people of Middle Earth to his side. Here are some things we should no longer mention, or if we do, we should put a positive spin on them so people will still see Saruman is our only hope.

Saruman’s Environmental Record
: While it is true that Saruman has supported clear cutting huge ancient forests, and while an old hippie tree hugger like Treebeard might tell you lots of those trees were his friends, we ARE talking about trees here. And sure, Gandalf has a much better record on the environment but he’s done now. It’s time to focus on how much worse Sauron’s environmental record is. I mean, have you seen Mordor?

Saruman’s Being in League With the Dark Lord: Okay, okay. It’s true. Saruman did go to Sauron’s wedding. But that was a LONG time ago when Sauron still had both eyes. And fake hair. It’s also true that Saruman may have promised to do the dark lord’s bidding and to find the ring of power and give it to Sauron. But c’mon! You know Saruman was just doing that because he plans to ultimately betray Sauron after he’s done betraying us!

More:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/17/1503088/-It-s-Over-Gandalf-We-Need-to-Unite-Behind-Saruman-to-Save-Middle-Earth-from-Sauron
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It's Over Gandalf. We Need to Unite Behind Saruman to Save Middle Earth from Sauron! (Original Post) Katashi_itto Mar 2016 OP
LOLOL. Thank you. merrily Mar 2016 #1
It's a +5 Waffle Iron of Power. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #31
What other waffle iron would a powerful person like you have. merrily Mar 2016 #32
Now that you mention it, I'm almost certain I've seen some uruk-hai posting here... Scootaloo Mar 2016 #2
At least they're better than Orcs. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #7
That's what happens when you base you political beliefs on fairy tales. Nitram Mar 2016 #3
Well done, Nitram SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #5
Bill knows all about fairy tales. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #9
Exactly why I must question Hillary's late evolutions and revolutions. merrily Mar 2016 #20
Kicked! Well done! zentrum Mar 2016 #4
Very good. Thank you. jalan48 Mar 2016 #6
Meanwhile at KOS: greywolfe359 LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #8
NONE SHALL PASS! Scootaloo Mar 2016 #12
It's a strange world we live in when supposed liberals... smiley Mar 2016 #13
"He who shall not be named" unless He who shall not be named resigns or dies. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #15
+1 eom dragonfly301 Mar 2016 #21
Wow Rebkeh Mar 2016 #10
Love It! noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #11
Hillary = the sage, patient, and stoic Gandalf. anamnua Mar 2016 #14
Denethor wasn't the one that got speaking fees. It was always Sauruman behind the scenes. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #16
You're way off. I know who is on my side. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #19
Seriously? denvine Mar 2016 #24
This primary season is getting MyNameGoesHere Mar 2016 #17
Kinda looks like Dale, before the Walker attack Autumn Mar 2016 #18
Scathingly brilliant. CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #22
I just can't decide. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #23
I think he's Green Party Newkularblue Mar 2016 #27
That was great!, LOL n/t Kittycat Mar 2016 #25
So Elizabeth Warren would be... chknltl Mar 2016 #26
Hillary/Gandalf anamnua Mar 2016 #28
I'd like a host to explain why they think this is OK for GD muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #29
Not to mention, that time Gandalf spent on a Kibbutz in Gondor. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #30
Locking Goblinmonger Mar 2016 #33

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. LOLOL. Thank you.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016

Keep the waffle iron in the pantry for now.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
31. It's a +5 Waffle Iron of Power.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:35 PM
Mar 2016

merrily

(45,251 posts)
32. What other waffle iron would a powerful person like you have.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. Now that you mention it, I'm almost certain I've seen some uruk-hai posting here...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:37 PM
Mar 2016
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
7. At least they're better than Orcs.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:19 PM
Mar 2016

Nitram

(24,628 posts)
3. That's what happens when you base you political beliefs on fairy tales.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:51 PM
Mar 2016

SCantiGOP

(14,279 posts)
5. Well done, Nitram
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:01 PM
Mar 2016
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
9. Bill knows all about fairy tales.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:21 PM
Mar 2016

merrily

(45,251 posts)
20. Exactly why I must question Hillary's late evolutions and revolutions.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:37 PM
Mar 2016

zentrum

(9,866 posts)
4. Kicked! Well done!
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:00 PM
Mar 2016

jalan48

(14,451 posts)
6. Very good. Thank you.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:08 PM
Mar 2016

LiberalArkie

(16,568 posts)
8. Meanwhile at KOS: greywolfe359
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:20 PM
Mar 2016

The writer of this has been banned by Kos for daring to exercise his free speech. Everyone brace for a reactionary purge by the elites. Refugees reassemble at Kossacks_for_Sanders

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
12. NONE SHALL PASS!
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:35 PM
Mar 2016

smiley

(1,432 posts)
13. It's a strange world we live in when supposed liberals...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:38 PM
Mar 2016

begin to censor free speech. Especially when it's as creative as this. Definitely some humor depraved members over at KOS though. Sort of funny to read the comments.

Somehow I doubt the author cared about his banning at this point.

LiberalArkie

(16,568 posts)
15. "He who shall not be named" unless He who shall not be named resigns or dies.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:44 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:03 PM - Edit history (1)

dragonfly301

(399 posts)
21. +1 eom
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:37 PM
Mar 2016

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
10. Wow
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:27 PM
Mar 2016


That's ... bold. I like it though, not the snark but the message. Except I wouldn't put Trump as Sauron. Trump is more symptom than disease but close. Very close.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
11. Love It!
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:28 PM
Mar 2016

Very creative!

anamnua

(1,371 posts)
14. Hillary = the sage, patient, and stoic Gandalf.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:41 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie = the indiscriminately angry and suboptimally functional Denethor.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
16. Denethor wasn't the one that got speaking fees. It was always Sauruman behind the scenes.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:47 PM
Mar 2016

Saruman Actively Seeks Out the Ring of Power, and the Ring of Power Has Only One Master and Is Evil. Gandalf says that is evidence you have to refuse to have anything at all to do with the Super PrACious at all. His biggest criticism of Saruman is that Saruman plans to try and use the ring. But that’s just an artful smear on Gandalf’s part, implying that Saruman doesn’t have the integrity to be totally uninfluenced by the speaking fees one ring once he accepts it!

Denethor didn't sell Middle-Earth out either the first chance he got, nor did he prod us into an unwanted war.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
19. You're way off. I know who is on my side.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:33 PM
Mar 2016

denvine

(828 posts)
24. Seriously?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:30 PM
Mar 2016

You can't really believe that, can you?

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
17. This primary season is getting
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:09 PM
Mar 2016

more demented by the minute

Autumn

(46,413 posts)
18. Kinda looks like Dale, before the Walker attack
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:19 PM
Mar 2016

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
22. Scathingly brilliant.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:56 PM
Mar 2016

surrealAmerican

(11,491 posts)
23. I just can't decide.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:57 PM
Mar 2016

Who does Tom Bombadil endorse?

Newkularblue

(130 posts)
27. I think he's Green Party
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:00 PM
Mar 2016

Talking to trees an all.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
25. That was great!, LOL n/t
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:33 PM
Mar 2016

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
26. So Elizabeth Warren would be...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:57 PM
Mar 2016

..Aragorn?

anamnua

(1,371 posts)
28. Hillary/Gandalf
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:05 PM
Mar 2016

fell into the abyss at Khazad Dum (lost the 2008 primary) but came back reincarnated to finish the job. Come to think of it the tragic figure of Boromir personifies the extreme fringe of Sandersism: he had an overvalued idea of his own potency and a creeping, delusional distrust of his friends and allies. All this eventually did his head in and led him to turn on his own.

muriel_volestrangler

(102,573 posts)
29. I'd like a host to explain why they think this is OK for GD
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:05 PM
Mar 2016

It is that GDP threads are allowed in GD as long as they're funny? Or that you do see Hillary as comparable to an evil figure who wants to take over the world?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
30. Not to mention, that time Gandalf spent on a Kibbutz in Gondor.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:22 PM
Mar 2016

Little known fact, his real name is David Gandalfstein.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
33. Locking
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 06:04 PM
Mar 2016
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