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Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:28 PM Mar 2016

I'm all in for a corporate death penalty such that a convicted corporation's assets are seized &

trade in their stocks halted permanently. Corporate executives remain subject to civil lawsuits brought by stockholders.


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I favor a corporate death penalty
8 (80%)
I do NOT favor a corporate death penalty
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I'm all in for a corporate death penalty such that a convicted corporation's assets are seized & (Original Post) Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 OP
This should happen to Verizon! scscholar Mar 2016 #1
If corporations are people then it makes perfect sense. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #2
You don't mean literal death, right? metroins Mar 2016 #3
Right. Management needs to stay alive for all those stockholders' civil suits. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #8
I am signed on then metroins Mar 2016 #9
The assets actually belong to the shareholders as they are the "owners" Press Virginia Mar 2016 #4
I'm thinking the stock value goes to zero. Perhaps the charter is rescinded and working assets are Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #10
So what happens to the stockholders? ohnoyoudidnt Mar 2016 #5
I'm not advocating either way. R. P. McMurphy Mar 2016 #12
The solution sounds a bit extreme. ohnoyoudidnt Mar 2016 #14
More importantly, what happens to the employees? WillowTree Mar 2016 #15
Right ohnoyoudidnt Mar 2016 #16
If a senior executive commits a crime, why should thousands of innocent people be fired? Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #6
Corporations have not always have an unlimited existence. I don't know anything about this site GoneFishin Mar 2016 #7
This is just silly, No. greytdemocrat Mar 2016 #11
What crime(s) would qualify for such a drastic outcome? n/t True Earthling Mar 2016 #13

metroins

(2,550 posts)
3. You don't mean literal death, right?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:30 PM
Mar 2016

I'm 90% sure you don't mean killing the CEOs.

I just wanted to ask to be sure.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
4. The assets actually belong to the shareholders as they are the "owners"
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:32 PM
Mar 2016

of the corporation.
Forced liquidation would be more appropriate

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
10. I'm thinking the stock value goes to zero. Perhaps the charter is rescinded and working assets are
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:07 PM
Mar 2016

sold off in the market.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
5. So what happens to the stockholders?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:40 PM
Mar 2016

That sounds like it could get messy and more complicated than necessary. How about more regulation and actually going after executives for illegal activities and throwing them in prison? Do whatever with everything they have gained from working for the company.

R. P. McMurphy

(833 posts)
12. I'm not advocating either way.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:34 PM
Mar 2016

However, if the stockholders could lose their investment because of criminal activity there would be tremendous pressure to hire ethical managers.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
14. The solution sounds a bit extreme.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:12 AM
Mar 2016

Millions of people have their retirement in the market and don't have much say in the elected officers since many companies have large institutional ownership that control the votes. The individual stockholder probably wouldn't have a good idea who to vote for anyway. A lot of bad people are good at presenting themselves as nice and ethical in public and playing dirty behind closed doors.

Serious jail time and financial penalties for the bad actors in the company should be sufficient. We don't see nearly enough of that. I am concerned about what criteria will be used for this 'death penalty' and how it would affect shareholders and employees.

If what the company has done has caused catastrophic damage like pollution and or damage to public health and all assets need to be seized to pay fines and reparations, that would be one thing, but to destroy a company because a couple managers did something illegal that didn't cause catastrophic damage is something else.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
16. Right
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:48 AM
Mar 2016

They shouldn't have to suffer because of the actions of some criminal taking advantage of his position in the company to make himself rich. I think people are looking for a complicated solution here when the answer is simple.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
6. If a senior executive commits a crime, why should thousands of innocent people be fired?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:44 PM
Mar 2016

Send the executive to prison, for life if necessary, but don't throw the innocent employees out of a job and don't penalize the innocent shareholders.

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