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Liberal In Texas

(13,546 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 07:08 PM Feb 2016

Ranch Owner Recalls Finding Justice Antonin Scalia’s Body

Even after Justice Antonin Scalia did not respond to a knock at the door of his suite at the Cibolo Creek Ranch at 8:30 a.m. on Saturday, John B. Poindexter, the property’s owner, thought little of it.

Justice Scalia had no pulse and was clearly dead, Mr. Poindexter recalled in an interview on Sunday.

“His hands were sort of almost folded on top of the sheets,” said Mr. Poindexter, a manufacturing executive from Houston. “The sheets weren’t rumpled up at all.”
Justice Scalia had arrived at the 30,000-acre ranch on Friday to participate in one of the weekend gatherings that Mr. Poindexter hosts a few times each year. Justice Scalia and Mr. Poindexter had met just once, in Washington, and the justice had traveled to Texas after a friend of Mr. Poindexter’s suggested inviting him, the ranch owner said.

In the day leading up to his death, Justice Scalia was “very congenial, very convivial,” Mr. Poindexter said, as the party roamed the property and some hunted for quail. Justice Scalia did not participate in the hunt, but he did observe.

At 9 p.m., after the conclusion of a cocktail reception and dinner, Justice Scalia, who had flown to Texas early Friday, told Mr. Poindexter he was going to turn in for the night, and went to the property’s presidential suite.

The next morning, Justice Scalia did not appear for breakfast, and Mr. Poindexter went to look for him.


Full Stoy: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/15/us/ranch-owner-recalls-finding-justice-antonin-scalias-body.html?_r=0

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Ranch Owner Recalls Finding Justice Antonin Scalia’s Body (Original Post) Liberal In Texas Feb 2016 OP
There was a strong smell of sulphur emanating from the body... Human101948 Feb 2016 #1
CSI: Freeperville is on the case jberryhill Feb 2016 #2
Was Colonel Mustard implicated? Cirque du So-What Feb 2016 #5
Colonel Sanders killed him in the library rbrnmw Feb 2016 #9
Colonel Sanders beat him with a drumstick. phylny Feb 2016 #12
... rbrnmw Feb 2016 #14
CSI: Infowars is claiming murder by Obama administration. Initech Feb 2016 #45
All I can say is Politicalboi Feb 2016 #3
The plot thickens! femmocrat Feb 2016 #4
Scaliaghazi. lpbk2713 Feb 2016 #6
LOL nt femmocrat Feb 2016 #7
Quail hunting entails a lot of walking Major Nikon Feb 2016 #10
You know you are putting a reality damper on our creative speculation, don't you? femmocrat Feb 2016 #11
What an absurd theory jberryhill Feb 2016 #16
Or, he could have been observing from a jeep or golf cart or something. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #20
I'd like more info noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #8
"not another body found by hunters in the desert,” jberryhill Feb 2016 #18
The ranch is close to the Mexican border. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #21
"County Judge Cinderela Guevera"...Cinderela? Really? trof Feb 2016 #19
It was Chupacabra. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #42
A privileged life and a peaceful death. Liberal In Texas Feb 2016 #13
they say when you die KT2000 Feb 2016 #15
OMG pennylane100 Feb 2016 #23
Me too. I was diagnosed with it in July. I'm in denial, though when I use it I sleep more soundly. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #38
Yes, I also thought that pennylane100 Feb 2016 #47
Use your machine even when you nap. PADemD Feb 2016 #46
I must admit I do not do that pennylane100 Feb 2016 #48
Is this the Poindexter of Iran/Contra? rbrnmw Feb 2016 #17
One and the same n/t sharp_stick Feb 2016 #24
I don't think so underpants Feb 2016 #30
No, that's John M. Poindexter, who was a Navy admiral pinboy3niner Feb 2016 #31
OK thank you rbrnmw Feb 2016 #36
No just another Texas billionaire. malokvale77 Feb 2016 #32
thanks rbrnmw Feb 2016 #35
Heart attack...? Bigmack Feb 2016 #22
On another thread it was stated he was found LiberalElite Feb 2016 #25
Well, this is a NYT report from Liberal In Texas Feb 2016 #28
ok I missed that part... nt LiberalElite Feb 2016 #29
John Poindexter? Reagan's criminal security adviser? Rex Feb 2016 #26
Not the same Poindexter. n/t Liberal In Texas Feb 2016 #27
See my post #32 above. nt malokvale77 Feb 2016 #33
“His hands were sort of almost folded on top of the sheets,”...nuh uh: Gabi Hayes Feb 2016 #34
Why he sounds almost, dare I say, saint-like? ebayfool Feb 2016 #37
That sounds staged, badly LeftyMom Feb 2016 #40
You got it! n/t ebayfool Feb 2016 #44
I will say this about the guy who found the body nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #39
Gross. nekkid. Ugh, POINDEXTER was involved!! UTUSN Feb 2016 #41
Different Poindexter. See #31. pinboy3niner Feb 2016 #43
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. CSI: Freeperville is on the case
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 07:13 PM
Feb 2016

When last I checked, they have identified the poison and the method of administration.

I'm sure they have it narrowed down to a couple of suspects by this point.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
10. Quail hunting entails a lot of walking
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 07:33 PM
Feb 2016

Possibly over rough terrain. There's a good chance Scalia was in no shape for it and he may have broken loose some plaque that ultimately caused his demise.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
20. Or, he could have been observing from a jeep or golf cart or something.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 07:58 PM
Feb 2016

Which I feel is more likely, considering his ample girth.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
8. I'd like more info
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016
In Presidio County, which has fewer than 7,000 residents, the two justices of the peace were busy when they learned of a death at the ranch that required an inquest.

“No identity or clue was given that this was not another body found by hunters in the desert,” David Beebe, a justice of the peace, wrote in an email Saturday night, after he learned of Justice Scalia’s death.

Judge Beebe said that County Judge Cinderela Guevera had ultimately pronounced Justice Scalia dead by telephone and “ruled it natural causes based on credible information.” She could not be reached for comment.


In other words had we known whose body it was we would have handled this differently. I wonder how many times bodies that are found are ruled death by natural causes via telephone? I hope some journalist checks this out.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
18. "not another body found by hunters in the desert,”
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 07:44 PM
Feb 2016

Ummm... "Another" one?

This happens a lot down there?

Liberal In Texas

(13,546 posts)
13. A privileged life and a peaceful death.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 07:37 PM
Feb 2016

He didn't deserve either.

I would imagine he was being comped by the owner since he was invited.
Having the guest of honor die in the presidential suite probably put a real downer on the weekend.


KT2000

(20,576 posts)
15. they say when you die
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 07:39 PM
Feb 2016

in your sleep - it is likely sleep apnea. He looked to be a perfect candidate for it.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
38. Me too. I was diagnosed with it in July. I'm in denial, though when I use it I sleep more soundly.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:04 PM
Feb 2016

Based on the way they described finding him, (his hands folded and the bed not ruffled) it seems like a peaceful way to go. I mean if you have to choose.

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
47. Yes, I also thought that
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 11:15 AM
Feb 2016

but then I thought of most of the days I do not use my machine, I wake up tired and drag around all day and a peaceful last sleep is more like a wish than a dread.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
31. No, that's John M. Poindexter, who was a Navy admiral
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 08:50 PM
Feb 2016

The ranch owner, John B. Poindexter, served as an Army Captain in Vietnam, left the service, went to school and became wealthy as a Houston businessman.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
32. No just another Texas billionaire.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:29 PM
Feb 2016

He owns Morgan Truck Bodies. Think UPS and FedX fleets.

He is a highly decorated Cavalry Commander from the Vietnam War.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
26. John Poindexter? Reagan's criminal security adviser?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 08:34 PM
Feb 2016

So many criminals from the Reagan administration, hard to keep track. He only met Scalia once in all that time? Wow.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
37. Why he sounds almost, dare I say, saint-like?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:59 PM
Feb 2016

“His hands were sort of almost folded on top of the sheets,” said Mr. Poindexter, a manufacturing executive from Houston. “The sheets weren’t rumpled up at all.”


Nope. Not buying it.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
40. That sounds staged, badly
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:39 PM
Feb 2016

It's a fancy resort, in all likelihood a maid found the body and tidied up anything embarrassing, and a few FYI calls were made before Mr. Prominent "found" the body.

Considering the demographic of their clientele this has to be a fairly routine matter for the staff.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
39. I will say this about the guy who found the body
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:05 PM
Feb 2016

that can be rather traumatic, so I hope he seeks help if needed.

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